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Post by CatsFan on Dec 15, 2009 23:23:15 GMT -4
Clarke will grow and mature I love the potential in this kid; I hear we were undisciplined in the third I wonder how much Thomander and his weak calls factored into that he hates the Moose?
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Post by eastcoastfan on Dec 15, 2009 23:23:48 GMT -4
I agree Clarke has the potential to be a top defenseman in the league but he needs a veteran to crack his knuckles when he screws up. He has a very greasy side to him and if he doesn't learn to toe the line he's going to be more of a liability than an asset.
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Post by MikeC on Dec 16, 2009 1:12:42 GMT -4
I agree Clarke has the potential to be a top defenseman in the league but he needs a veteran to crack his knuckles when he screws up. He has a very greasy side to him and if he doesn't learn to toe the line he's going to be more of a liability than an asset. You can be greasy and still be an effective player. The line Clarke walks is going to blurry and and there's got to be some gray area for him to play his game. But he's got to at least stay in contact with the gray area. Putting your team shorthanded 4 times in the 3rd period of a game is not even close to staying within the gray area.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 16, 2009 7:32:58 GMT -4
Clarke will grow and mature I love the potential in this kid; I hear we were undisciplined in the third I wonder how much Thomander and his weak calls factored into that he hates the Moose? If Thomander called everything ... you guys would have spent the 2nd and 3rd in the box. Thomander did have a bad game ... but it certainly didn't disadvantage you guys.
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Post by Beaver Banker on Dec 16, 2009 8:14:36 GMT -4
Clarke will grow and mature I love the potential in this kid; I hear we were undisciplined in the third I wonder how much Thomander and his weak calls factored into that he hates the Moose? If Thomander called everything ... you guys would have spent the 2nd and 3rd in the box. Thomander did have a bad game ... but it certainly didn't disadvantage you guys. Thomander had a bad game for an average referee, or Thomander had a bad game by Thomander standards? The former is almost expected. The latter would be a shitshow.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2009 8:21:03 GMT -4
Thomander is a sack of shit who shouldn't be in the league.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 16, 2009 8:36:04 GMT -4
If Thomander called everything ... you guys would have spent the 2nd and 3rd in the box. Thomander did have a bad game ... but it certainly didn't disadvantage you guys. Thomander had a bad game for an average referee, or Thomander had a bad game by Thomander standards? The former is almost expected. The latter would be a shitshow. He had an average Thomander game...actually I thought he went easy on Halifax. Clarke could have gotten 5 for the dirty hit on Cameron, it was well after Cameron no longer had the puck and it was borderline boarding/checking from behind with vicious intent. It was obvious Clarke was trying to injure somebody. He also slew footed somebody(automatic 4 minutes) earlier in the game that went uncalled. I wish somebody had pummelled him once the score got out of hand.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 16, 2009 8:55:09 GMT -4
Thomander is a sack of shit who shouldn't be in the league. Nice ...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2009 9:40:08 GMT -4
Thomander is a sack of shit who shouldn't be in the league. Nice ... Ok in that case, Thomander is the best official to ever come out of the city of Halifax, he always calls a great game and is totally not biased against the Mooseheads and not afraid of being labelled as a HOMER ref who is in favor of the Mooseheads.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 16, 2009 10:56:20 GMT -4
Nice ... Ok in that case, Thomander is the best official to ever come out of the city of Halifax, he always calls a great game and is totally not biased against the Mooseheads and not afraid of being labelled as a HOMER ref who is in favor of the Mooseheads. No ... he isn't that either. He let the Moose off easy last night but for some reason you think he cost you the game ? Clarke cost you the game ... nobody else. One thing Thomander isn't is a "sack of shit". He isn't the best Ref in the Q ... not the worst either ... and he has no bias against anybody ... all teams fans complain about him ... they all dislike him equally ... they all think he is against their team ... The only ones in the equation with any bias are the fans that think their teams are hated by Thomander. Thomander is more often correct in his calls than you are ... because he has no bias.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2009 11:25:17 GMT -4
Ok in that case, Thomander is the best official to ever come out of the city of Halifax, he always calls a great game and is totally not biased against the Mooseheads and not afraid of being labelled as a HOMER ref who is in favor of the Mooseheads. No ... he isn't that either. He let the Moose off easy last night but for some reason you think he cost you the game ? Clarke cost you the game ... nobody else. One thing Thomander isn't is a "sack of shit". He isn't the best Ref in the Q ... not the worst either ... and he has no bias against anybody ... all teams fans complain about him ... they all dislike him equally ... they all think he is against their team ... The only ones in the equation with any bias are the fans that think their teams are hated by Thomander. Thomander is more often correct in his calls than you are ... because he has no bias. I didn't say he cost us the game- he is a piss poor excuse for a referee and shouldn't have made it as far as he has because he is incompetant; he can't even keep up in junior "A" , why should he be considered Q caliber?
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 16, 2009 12:07:37 GMT -4
No ... he isn't that either. He let the Moose off easy last night but for some reason you think he cost you the game ? Clarke cost you the game ... nobody else. One thing Thomander isn't is a "sack of shit". He isn't the best Ref in the Q ... not the worst either ... and he has no bias against anybody ... all teams fans complain about him ... they all dislike him equally ... they all think he is against their team ... The only ones in the equation with any bias are the fans that think their teams are hated by Thomander. Thomander is more often correct in his calls than you are ... because he has no bias. I didn't say he cost us the game- he is a piss poor excuse for a referee and shouldn't have made it as far as he has because he is incompetant; he can't even keep up in junior "A" , why should he be considered Q caliber? Thomander is as good as most other Q Refs ... so that is simply what we call "Q calibre" ... which most of us wish was a higher calibre. Most Q Refs are not incompetent according to Q fans that watch the game with an unbiased eye ... which it is clear you are not one of. Most of the time ... Q Refs are correct ... and when you are disagreeing with them ... most of the time you will be wrong.
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Post by curtis on Dec 16, 2009 12:11:20 GMT -4
Thomander had a bad game for an average referee, or Thomander had a bad game by Thomander standards? The former is almost expected. The latter would be a shitshow. He had an average Thomander game...actually I thought he went easy on Halifax. Clarke could have gotten 5 for the dirty hit on Cameron, it was well after Cameron no longer had the puck and it was borderline boarding/checking from behind with vicious intent. It was obvious Clarke was trying to injure somebody. He also slew footed somebody(automatic 4 minutes) earlier in the game that went uncalled. I wish somebody had pummelled him once the score got out of hand. Maybe if they had put Clarke back on the ice during the last 3 minutes of the game, after the Cats' final PP goal....someone would have taught him a lesson. Might have been good for him, even from the Moosehead's point of view.
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Post by melly on Dec 16, 2009 12:36:32 GMT -4
I didn't say he cost us the game- he is a piss poor excuse for a referee and shouldn't have made it as far as he has because he is incompetant; he can't even keep up in junior "A" , why should he be considered Q caliber? Thomander is as good as most other Q Refs ... so that is simply what we call "Q calibre" ... which most of us wish was a higher calibre. Most Q Refs are not incompetent according to Q fans that watch the game with an unbiased eye ... which it is clear you are not one of. Most of the time ... Q Refs are correct ... and when you are disagreeing with them ... most of the time you will be wrong. I look at the refereeing with an unbiased view, and they are terrible. They do not pick on the Mooseheads when I watch at the MC, they make pathetic calls on both teams. They are all inconsistent, and the last 2 games at the MC show that they are no longer capable of handling a game with one referee. Thomander is no different but it sounds like he was out of character in Moncton. He is consistent in one way, in that he seems to want to make sure that nobody accuses him of being a homer. I've watched games in CB and Halifax, and in both cases he seemed hell bent on pissing off the locals.
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Post by canbeer on Dec 16, 2009 12:39:09 GMT -4
I haven't found Clarke to be taking stupid penalties for the bulk of the year... I think he's lost his focus a bit in the last two games vs. Moncton but discipline wise he's given us little to complain about all year. The fact that another team or their fans don' like him doesn't worry me and it's nice to finally have some of those type of guys on the Moose. Everybody hates them until they play for your team.
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