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Post by bernieflagman on Feb 4, 2010 21:52:12 GMT -4
Another nasty elbow like Cormier one against Rimouski player from Marco Scandella. Check the video on you tube. You can see it on TSN.CA too. Scandella is suspended indefinitly. The Rimouski player mouth is a mess.
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Post by Murph on Feb 4, 2010 22:07:49 GMT -4
Another nasty elbow like Cormier one against Rimouski player from Marco Scandella. Check the video on you tube. You can see it on TSN.CA too. Scandella is suspended indefinitly. The Rimouski player mouth is a mess. The pressure is on the league now if you ask me. Despite the severity of the injuries sustained, the hits themselves are extremely similar. I don't see how they can't give Scandella the exact same punishment. |
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Post by lalalaprise on Feb 4, 2010 22:21:02 GMT -4
Hit wasnt as bad as Cormier's....but it was still bad. Any other season and Id say he would get 8-10 games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2010 22:29:16 GMT -4
Hit wasnt as bad as Cormier's....but it was still bad. Any other season and Id say he would get 8-10 games. You were right Lala, a suspension for the rest of the season in Cormier's case isn't neccesarily a deterrant for other players. |
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Post by lalalaprise on Feb 4, 2010 22:37:10 GMT -4
Hit wasnt as bad as Cormier's....but it was still bad. Any other season and Id say he would get 8-10 games. You were right Lala, a suspension for the rest of the season in Cormier's case isn't neccesarily a deterrant for other players. Well its a hard thing to prove because no one really knows how many incidents were prevented by suspending Cormier for the season. One thing is for sure, there is NO WAY you can eliminate plays like this in hockey. You can try and find ways to limit them, but 50 years from now players are still going to be hitting one another in the head. |
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Post by hfxfan09 on Feb 4, 2010 23:27:16 GMT -4
Making another great name for the Q; I'd say he should get what Cormier got rest of the season and the playoffs but Val'dor will probably appeal it too if he does!!!
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Post by canbeer on Feb 4, 2010 23:47:48 GMT -4
Cormier got suspended for the season not because of the hit but because everyone in Canada saw Tam convulsing on the ice on their 6 o'clock news. If Tam goes down, grabs his face and gets up with a bloody mouth then Cormier is out for 4-8 games because it's a far less disturbing image and doesn't become the biggest story in hockey for the next two weeks.
This hit in some ways looks worse to me... just didn't have the same disturbing result. Cormier was making a play on the puck carrier and threw out an elbow at the last moment as Tam slowed a bit. Scandella looks to be making a play on the puck and throws an elbow as a free shot on the forechecker.
Cormier got screwed because of a disturbing image of Tam on the ice. Scandella will get screwed because of Cormier. Bad timing.
I'm still interested to see what the league comes back with on the Cormier appeal. Unless they are seriously considering giving Ryn/Cormier a bit of a break (25-30 games... Cormier is back in the 2nd-3rd round. I thought it was worth 20 games at first but now 25-30 would be fair), I'm sure they don't want to give Ryn ammo by only giving Scandella 10-15 games. What will be really interesting is to now see what decision they come out with first... the result of the appeal or Scadella's suspension.
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Post by Murph on Feb 5, 2010 6:13:30 GMT -4
You were right Lala, a suspension for the rest of the season in Cormier's case isn't neccesarily a deterrant for other players. Well its a hard thing to prove because no one really knows how many incidents were prevented by suspending Cormier for the season. One thing is for sure, there is NO WAY you can eliminate plays like this in hockey. You can try and find ways to limit them, but 50 years from now players are still going to be hitting one another in the head. The way to limit them, is with severe punishment. Forget what the players would have gotten any other year. That means nothing. Things change. 150 years ago, if you killed someone, you were hanged without trial. That doesn't mean anything today. There's an expiration date on "precident". The precident now, for a hit like that, is the season plus playoffs. If the league gives Scandella anything less, then the Cormier suspension means nothing, and that sends the wrong message. It does nothing to limit these hits. But if you think two harsh suspensions to two star players won't get into the heads of the rest of the guys in the league, you're nuts. It won't change everybody. Crap like this will still happen. But it definately reduce the occurrances. The fact that Tam was convulsing, should have no bearing on the punishment. Just because on guy gets hurt more than the next, doesn't mean this hit couldn't have neded up the same or worse. The act and intent is what needs to be curbed. |
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Post by Fryar on Feb 5, 2010 8:31:57 GMT -4
Another nasty elbow like Cormier one against Rimouski player from Marco Scandella. Check the video on you tube. You can see it on TSN.CA too. Scandella is suspended indefinitly. The Rimouski player mouth is a mess. The pressure is on the league now if you ask me. Despite the severity of the injuries sustained, the hits themselves are extremely similar. I don't see how they can't give Scandella the exact same punishment. Can't give Scandella the exact same punishment because there are less games remaining than when Cormier was suspended. Not giving you a hard time, because I know that in effect the punishment is much the same, if doled out with the same verbage..."rest of the regular season and playoffs", if they go that route. They have to give him at least the remainder of the season and 7 games in the playoffs. But that would cause a shit storm in R.N. |
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Post by lalalaprise on Feb 5, 2010 10:59:25 GMT -4
The pressure is on the league now if you ask me. Despite the severity of the injuries sustained, the hits themselves are extremely similar. I don't see how they can't give Scandella the exact same punishment. Can't give Scandella the exact same punishment because there are less games remaining than when Cormier was suspended. Not giving you a hard time, because I know that in effect the punishment is much the same, if doled out with the same verbage..."rest of the regular season and playoffs", if they go that route. They have to give him at least the remainder of the season and 7 games in the playoffs. But that would cause a shit storm in R.N. And thats exactly why the league should have put a finite number on the Cormier suspension. |
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Post by mrlittlewolf on Feb 5, 2010 12:26:57 GMT -4
I'm gonna guesstimate Scandella gets 10 games for the hit, although it was an elbow after looking over the video it doesnt appear to be as blatent as Cormiers nor does Scandella look like a shark attacking its prey. Just before the hit it looks as though Marco has his elbow im and his shoulder ready for the hit but the players seams to be low thus the head shot
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Post by hfxfan09 on Feb 5, 2010 13:06:34 GMT -4
I disagree both bad hits; both opponents were injured so both deserve the Same punishment I don't care they played for Team Canada...nothing less for Scandella then Cormier is definetly sending the wrong message!!!
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Post by Murph on Feb 5, 2010 15:15:42 GMT -4
The pressure is on the league now if you ask me. Despite the severity of the injuries sustained, the hits themselves are extremely similar. I don't see how they can't give Scandella the exact same punishment. Can't give Scandella the exact same punishment because there are less games remaining than when Cormier was suspended. Not giving you a hard time, because I know that in effect the punishment is much the same, if doled out with the same verbage..."rest of the regular season and playoffs", if they go that route. They have to give him at least the remainder of the season and 7 games in the playoffs. But that would cause a shit storm in R.N. The exact same punishment is in fact "rest of the season including playoffs". The problem the league has, it because they didn't say "50 games" for Cormier, they have to word their suspensions the same, no matter if it's October or March. If they give him "rest of the regular season plus 7 playoff games" Cormier will win his appeal, and he will be eligible for Rouyn in the 2nd round. Right now, Cormier has no case for appeal. Depending on what happens to Scandella, the league ould make his case for him. |
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Post by Murph on Feb 5, 2010 15:17:08 GMT -4
I'm gonna guesstimate Scandella gets 10 games for the hit, although it was an elbow after looking over the video it doesnt appear to be as blatent as Cormiers nor does Scandella look like a shark attacking its prey. Just before the hit it looks as though Marco has his elbow im and his shoulder ready for the hit but the players seams to be low thus the head shot I don't see much differences in the two hits, other than the resulting injury. Both Scandella and Cormier glided into their opponenets to deliever the hit. Neither left their feet. Both guys leaned into their man with the elbow cocked, with no attempt to throw a clean hit. |
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Post by milton on Feb 9, 2010 19:31:56 GMT -4
15 games for Scandella, according to TSN.
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