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Post by canbeer on Sept 7, 2007 13:06:56 GMT -4
Funny little article about Jakub and his first day here as a moosehead last year in Wuest's blog. It also has a quote from the Blue Jackets GM saying:
"Jakub will be given every opportunity. But we're not going to keep him (on the Blue Jackets) to play 40 games. We're not going to keep him up here to play on the fourth line. He's either going to be one of our best top-end players, or he'll go back to junior and have a great season."
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Post by Gman on Sept 7, 2007 13:50:47 GMT -4
Funny little article about Jakub and his first day here as a moosehead last year in Wuest's blog. It also has a quote from the Blue Jackets GM saying: "Jakub will be given every opportunity. But we're not going to keep him (on the Blue Jackets) to play 40 games. We're not going to keep him up here to play on the fourth line. He's either going to be one of our best top-end players, or he'll go back to junior and have a great season."Ok, so he only has to beat out: Vborny, Zherdev, Fritsche, Picard, and possibly Shelly- and that's just right wing depth. There's also Fedorov, Svitov, Nash and Modin occupying spots on the top 2 lines. It's certainly possible for him to outplay some of these guys- especially Zherdev, Picard, and Fritsche, but those guys will be given the chance to stick before a freshly drafter player. If he pulls a Stall, we are screwed  |
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Post by canbeer on Sept 7, 2007 13:57:23 GMT -4
I know the quote doesn't mean a ton but it's good for the Moose that they won't keep him around just to be a 4th line player. I just hope he's back before mid to late October. Their season starts Oct. 5th.
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Post by nibs on Sept 7, 2007 13:59:47 GMT -4
And I believe he can stay for 10 games after the season starts.
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Post by canbeer on Sept 7, 2007 14:15:19 GMT -4
And I believe he can stay for 10 games after the season starts. I think it's 9. But maybe they won't keep him up there that long if he'd just be on the 4th line. |
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Post by Smiley on Sept 7, 2007 14:26:02 GMT -4
And I believe he can stay for 10 games after the season starts. I believe he can actually stay for the whole year, just that once he plays 9 games it is considered his 1st year in the league against his contract. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 7, 2007 14:28:57 GMT -4
If he clicks well with Nash though that may be his ticket to the NHL. Nash can really finish and Voracek can really pass the puck. Columbus is not loaded with frontline talent up front. Zherdev is their other elite talent and he has disapointed. Vyborny is not bad. Fedorov is a 3rd liner on most teams as is Svitov and Fritsche.
Bottom line he'll have to be clearly better than those he is competing with to stick. All things being equal they'd prefer to send him back.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Sept 7, 2007 14:33:36 GMT -4
I don't think he is physically strong enough yet to beat out people for jobs at the NHL level. The playmaking is there, but the physical beating he would take might take him off his game at this age.
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Post by bjindaho on Sept 7, 2007 14:35:52 GMT -4
And I believe he can stay for 10 games after the season starts. I believe he can actually stay for the whole year, just that once he plays 9 games it is considered his 1st year in the league against his contract. You are correct, and the Blue Jackets can send him down at any point of the season (a la Fleury who was sent down to avoid bonuses, not to stop the first year of the contract). The thing is that most teams will decide by the ninth game if they want him up because a) it kicks in his contract and puts him one year closer to free agency, and b) it puts him one year closer to having to clear waivers (Calgary lost Rico Fata because they burned his first year, and tried to send him down the next three. The Rangers claimed him when he went on waivers and Calgary had no more Fata.) A player can only be sent down three years after he hits his 10 in the NHL before having to be waived. |
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Post by qmaniac on Sept 7, 2007 14:59:23 GMT -4
I don't think he is physically strong enough yet to beat out people for jobs at the NHL level. The playmaking is there, but the physical beating he would take might take him off his game at this age. not buying this, i think his strength is one of his biggest assets, he's like sidney crosby on the puck, not at all easy to move off of it. |
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Post by Smiley on Sept 7, 2007 15:02:06 GMT -4
I believe he can actually stay for the whole year, just that once he plays 9 games it is considered his 1st year in the league against his contract. You are correct, and the Blue Jackets can send him down at any point of the season (a la Fleury who was sent down to avoid bonuses, not to stop the first year of the contract). The thing is that most teams will decide by the ninth game if they want him up because a) it kicks in his contract and puts him one year closer to free agency, and b) it puts him one year closer to having to clear waivers (Calgary lost Rico Fata because they burned his first year, and tried to send him down the next three. The Rangers claimed him when he went on waivers and Calgary had no more Fata.) A player can only be sent down three years after he hits his 10 in the NHL before having to be waived. Part A is the main reason, especially with the new CBA. It's a waste of money and time to have a player taking a hit against the cap and using up a year of availability playing Junior hockey. Your Rico Fata example, he wasn't a big loss to Calgary. Fata had potential but peaked too soon. Although he is a good example of not rushing junior aged kids. |
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Post by bjindaho on Sept 7, 2007 15:12:32 GMT -4
The point was that Fata played 20 games at 18, then they realized that he needed time in the AHL. I don't think too many teams will be making that mistake again.
But yes, it may have been a bad example because Calgary saw him as a fourth liner (though this was during the era where St. Louis was a fourth liner too).
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Post by canbeer on Sept 7, 2007 15:42:15 GMT -4
I don't think he is physically strong enough yet to beat out people for jobs at the NHL level. The playmaking is there, but the physical beating he would take might take him off his game at this age. not buying this, i think his strength is one of his biggest assets, he's like sidney crosby on the puck, not at all easy to move off of it. Strong base but a weak upper body. I think strength will be one of the top reasons he's back in the Q. |
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Post by qmaniac on Sept 7, 2007 16:01:00 GMT -4
not buying this, i think his strength is one of his biggest assets, he's like sidney crosby on the puck, not at all easy to move off of it. Strong base but a weak upper body. I think strength will be one of the top reasons he's back in the Q. He will be back in the Q, no question at all. However I'd site reasons such as a lack of experience. Should be given a big role at this years World Juniors. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Sept 7, 2007 20:02:59 GMT -4
not buying this, i think his strength is one of his biggest assets, he's like sidney crosby on the puck, not at all easy to move off of it. Strong base but a weak upper body. I think strength will be one of the top reasons he's back in the Q. Yeah he didnt do well at the draft combine for upper body strength, and he has said he knows he needs to work on upper body strength to make it to the next level.... but yeah... strength is probably not an issue.  |
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