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Post by bois on Feb 26, 2013 9:40:47 GMT -4
just for comparison sake re: Drouin versus MacKinnon
Drouin 42 games 36-57-93
MacKinnon 41 games 28-41-69
in one more game Drouin has outscored MacKinnon by 24 points playing on the same team.... that's incredible... i think MacKinnon is falling behind his teammate in the draft
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Post by Dextaaah on Feb 26, 2013 9:53:06 GMT -4
just for comparison sake re: Drouin versus MacKinnon Drouin 42 games 36-57-93 MacKinnon 41 games 28-41-69 in one more game Drouin has outscored MacKinnon by 24 points playing on the same team.... that's incredible... i think MacKinnon is falling behind his teammate in the draft I think if someone would have predicted before the season started the Drouin would have been out scoring MacKinnon people would have called them crazy. It's going to be interesting to see what happens in the draft I know I've read some scouts say MacKinnon is more NHL ready and his style of play fits better in the NHL but it's hard to ignore Drouin's numbers. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 26, 2013 9:57:09 GMT -4
just for comparison sake re: Drouin versus MacKinnon Drouin 42 games 36-57-93 MacKinnon 41 games 28-41-69 in one more game Drouin has outscored MacKinnon by 24 points playing on the same team.... that's incredible... i think MacKinnon is falling behind his teammate in the draft The question is who`s game will translate better to the pro`s? Drouin is a better CHL player... his style and vision breaks teams down everytime he has the puck. In fairness to MacKinnon though, most passes go through Drouin on PP`s etc... he is the guy that dictates the setups, while MacKinnon is more of a take the puck hard to the net guy. I find MacKinnon has played better than his points indicate though. He is pretty much a visible threat in every game he plays, and there has been a number of games where we would score a bunch of goals and he would pick up only 1 or 2 points...even though he was very much a part of the dominant line and PP. I think MacKinnon is a surefire bet to be an impact NHL player because of his skating/shot/strength and his offensive creativity is above average... Drouin`s ceiling is high - he could end up in the Giroux/Datsyuk/Crosby/Kane mold - but he may also get worn down by the physical nature of the league and not be as dominant. I doubt he has trouble at the NHL level though, given guys like Crosby/Giroux/Marchand/Kane/Eberle are all super talented smaller guys who adapted just fine. I could certainly see Drouin going as the 1st forward taken at this point, something that seemed to be a reach in October/November. It would be hard to pass on that talent and passion for the game even if there is a bit more risk than MacKinnon. |
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Post by Dextaaah on Feb 26, 2013 10:09:38 GMT -4
There's a lot of talent in the draft this year and whatever team ends up with the first pick is really going to have to do their research and decided which one of these talents best fit the needs of the team. However I would love for either MacKinnon of Drouin to some how end up on the Habs.
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Post by paulmcswain on Feb 26, 2013 10:12:54 GMT -4
So nice... wish he scored on the first shot, but chasing the puck down and doing it again was nice too. Moose have a highlight reel too, but I find you can see it better on John Moore`s video. Nice moves, but not really jaw dropping.....lol. when you consider it was against a sucky team stuck in 14th place, and against 2 17 year old dmen, it's just not as sweet.......Can he do the same against a team that will actually play the body? Lalancette, who he danced around and through twice at the start, just chased the puck around......Not sure why somebody don't teach these Bathurst players that it is legal to make some physical contact.......with the talent on this team it is a shame that we have to watch crap game after game. Why do I get the feeling that if I respond to this seriously porchop will say "haha you're so stupid, I was baiting you". And If I respond suggesting he's baiting he will vehemently deny said accusation |
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Post by Dextaaah on Feb 26, 2013 10:17:28 GMT -4
Because that's what he does
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Post by Joe Rogan on Feb 26, 2013 10:34:33 GMT -4
Nice moves, but not really jaw dropping.....lol. when you consider it was against a sucky team stuck in 14th place, and against 2 17 year old dmen, it's just not as sweet.......Can he do the same against a team that will actually play the body? Lalancette, who he danced around and through twice at the start, just chased the puck around......Not sure why somebody don't teach these Bathurst players that it is legal to make some physical contact.......with the talent on this team it is a shame that we have to watch crap game after game. LOL you just can't help yourself, can you? I see NOTHING has changed. |
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Post by chsb on Feb 26, 2013 10:36:42 GMT -4
Ugh... good to rest, especially now that we clinched... but certainly seems more serious than was thought. It was said he was hurt on the shift before the one where he limped off - I wonder if it was a twisted leg, knee, etc... With first place overall clinched, there is NO reason to bring MacKinnon back before he is 100% ready. You want him healthy for the playoffs, to bring him back before then, other than to maybe get him in a couple of games to get back into the swing of things, get his timing back, would be idiotic. You know opposing teams wouldn't mind taking an extra (cheap) shot at him; no sense in risking that unnecessarily. They probably won't need him for their first series as they'll be playing the #16 seed (Shawinigan, Sherbrooke, etc.?). They can sit him for that series if they have to. Following that line of thought, why don't you propose to sit Drouin for the rest of the season as he is your MVP without a doubt and you already clinched 1st spot? If there is one player to spare from "viciousness". Drouin is the one. |
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Post by bois on Feb 26, 2013 10:39:00 GMT -4
because Drouin is fighting for a scoring championship.. MacKinnon is not
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 26, 2013 10:45:02 GMT -4
With first place overall clinched, there is NO reason to bring MacKinnon back before he is 100% ready. You want him healthy for the playoffs, to bring him back before then, other than to maybe get him in a couple of games to get back into the swing of things, get his timing back, would be idiotic. You know opposing teams wouldn't mind taking an extra (cheap) shot at him; no sense in risking that unnecessarily. They probably won't need him for their first series as they'll be playing the #16 seed (Shawinigan, Sherbrooke, etc.?). They can sit him for that series if they have to. Following that line of thought, why don't you propose to sit Drouin for the rest of the season as he is your MVP without a doubt and you already clinched 1st spot? If there is one player to spare from "viciousness". Drouin is the one. Few reasons: One, I doubt you could get Drouin to agree to sit out 10 games. Two, I doubt you agree to get Drouin to sit out 10 games in his draft season. Three, we have 10 games left... not 3 or 4. Still lots of hockey to be played, and still fine tuning for playoffs. And fourth, Drouin would no doubt love to win a scoring title, especially playing less games than everyone else. I think for the next five games or so it will be business as usual, then in the last few games we probably sit some guys if we are healthy. |
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Post by Dextaaah on Feb 26, 2013 10:57:19 GMT -4
You will probably see Drouin getting fewer shifts before he actually sits out any games.
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Post by mooseinfo on Feb 26, 2013 11:22:06 GMT -4
There's a lot of talent in the draft this year and whatever team ends up with the first pick is really going to have to do their research and decided which one of these talents best fit the needs of the team. However I would love for either MacKinnon of Drouin to some how end up on the Habs. Who ever gets the first pick should look at getting extra assests to trade down. Even the 3rd overall pick will be fine and maybe less pressure to have the best player of the top 5. |
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Post by Reesor on Feb 26, 2013 12:54:13 GMT -4
Sean Lafontaine (A Scout in the OHL) puts the MacKinnon vs Jones vs Drouin chat in perspective with this string of tweets:
Sean Lafortune ?@seanlafortune
The Jones/MacKinnon/Drouin talk reminds me ALOT of the Hedman/Tavares/Duchene talk in 2009. We often get tired of the same guy on top.
Sean Lafortune ?@seanlafortune
...Point for me is that we often ignore the guy on top for the 'new guy'. Sometimes we overthink and hyper analyse things.
Sean Lafortune ?@seanlafortune
As a spectator, I remember people nit picking aspects of Tavares game while applauding the 'new' guys. We could be seeing a repeat here.
Sean Lafortune ?@seanlafortune
I think we have a tendancy to overscout and analyse the top player, finding reasons to knock him down. You need to always scout in a vacuum.
Sean Lafortune ?@seanlafortune
Is that the case with MacKinnon, hard to say. I think we need to be cognizant of it and remember the 36 month curve, not the 2 month curve.
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Post by 1994 on Feb 26, 2013 14:21:34 GMT -4
just for comparison sake re: Drouin versus MacKinnon Drouin 42 games 36-57-93 MacKinnon 41 games 28-41-69 in one more game Drouin has outscored MacKinnon by 24 points playing on the same team.... that's incredible... i think MacKinnon is falling behind his teammate in the draft Drouin is definately making a case for himself and although Drouin has the softest hands I've ever seen he's not going to be able to do the things he's been doing in the Q on a regular basis in the NHL, another thing to consider is that MacKinnon won't even be 18 until September, he's almost a full year younger than Jones and half a year younger than Drouin. It'll be an interesting draft for sure and it's hard to say who will be drafted first between Drouin and MacKinnon assuming Jones goes first. I personally think MacKinnon is more ready than Drouin to play in the NHL next year, it's hard to say which one of them will have the greater impact after that. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 26, 2013 14:28:04 GMT -4
just for comparison sake re: Drouin versus MacKinnon Drouin 42 games 36-57-93 MacKinnon 41 games 28-41-69 in one more game Drouin has outscored MacKinnon by 24 points playing on the same team.... that's incredible... i think MacKinnon is falling behind his teammate in the draft Drouin is definately making a case for himself and although Drouin has the softest hands I've ever seen he's not going to be able to do the things he's been doing in the Q on a regular basis in the NHL, another thing to consider is that MacKinnon won't even be 18 until September, he's almost a full year younger than Jones and half a year younger than Drouin. It'll be an interesting draft for sure and it's hard to say who will be drafted first between Drouin and MacKinnon assuming Jones goes first. I personally think MacKinnon is more ready than Drouin to play in the NHL next year, it's hard to say which one of them will have the greater impact after that. It`s crazy that the team sitting 3rd or 4th can sit back, watch who everyone else pick, then take the superstar left over lol. It really seems like any of the top 5 guys could be the best player in the draft... |
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