topnet
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Post by topnet on Apr 5, 2014 11:04:54 GMT -4
Professor Hodge has sent out his report cards now that the semester is over. Although I do agree with many of the marks he gives out there are a couple that I would address.
Caissey getting a (B) I think any athlete that comes into the league basically for the first time and puts up his numbers then at the end of the season ends up signing a pro contract must have done something worthy of getting at least an A or A- . Yes, he was not the same Caissey that started the season, but how effective would you be if you came back from an injury that almost cost you your leg. Sorry Hodge, the mark gets adjusted upward.
Lalonde getting a (B+) I think any player that can score 40 goals on a rebuilding team with 14 first year players gets an A. Yeah, his playoffs didn't go as well as he would have liked, but the mark is on the season long not just the playoffs. How many goals would he have gotten if Penny, Barbachev or Tkachev would have been suited up for all the games he played? So, I am bumping him to an (A)
Haas getting a (B-) Well, the fear of death is worse than death alone they say. So, in my opinion the fact that Haas did not fight as much this year is a non factor. Teams did not take liberties with our young guys I believe due to the fact that he might fight. Plus, being on the PK all the time is not where we needed to be night in and night out. Finishing the season with a plus rating playing 3rd line duties on a team with a young core, Haas gets a B+
There are a couple of players where I felt the marks were a little high, but no one goes up to the teacher and demands their mark be lowered, so I won't either.
Since we are giving out marks to we dare give one to the media coverage? Newspaper (French - English), Social, Play-by-Play.
Have fun. Looking forward to this thread growing.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 5, 2014 11:50:26 GMT -4
Hodge never gives anybody lower than C-, even last year when some flopped badly. I can just imagine this year's grades.
Small correction, Caissy didn't get a pro contract, just an ATO which means a try out with an AHL team. They can send him home at any point. Still good for him and a very good year.
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Post by npsh on Apr 6, 2014 11:47:06 GMT -4
I never pay much if any attention to this(Hodge) individual's "report" card, not really worth the read. It's his opinion and remember opinions are like assholes - we all have one. There are good posters on this site aka Billy and SteveUL who can give a view point that I would equate as better than the sports writer from the Irving TT. That's my opinion
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Post by bois on Apr 7, 2014 8:34:26 GMT -4
almost lost his leg? a tad overdramatic no?
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 7, 2014 8:50:47 GMT -4
almost lost his leg? a tad overdramatic no? No idea ... it was said that he had unexpected emergency surgery as a result of the injury. Hodge still calls that a dirty hit which I don't think many agree it was. It was just an open ice hit and things can happen when two big bodies come together like that.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 7, 2014 9:13:16 GMT -4
I don't disagree with Caissy's grade. I don't care that he was not in the Q in his previous years. But if you base it on expectations then you expected more from a guy taking up a 20 YO slot. He had good skill and had a good start to the season ... but never regained that level of play after his injury. Its too bad that he got injured, but players get injured all the time and have to recover from it. His output was not worth more than a B from a 20 YO top 6 forward. It isn't his fault he was put in that role.
Him making the jump to the AHL has nothing to do with his season here ... and I'm a little surprised he got the invite. It likely has more to do with the AHL team needing healthy bodies ... and he was free and available.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Apr 7, 2014 12:35:35 GMT -4
I don't disagree with Caissy's grade. I don't care that he was not in the Q in his previous years. But if you base it on expectations then you expected more from a guy taking up a 20 YO slot. He had good skill and had a good start to the season ... but never regained that level of play after his injury. Its too bad that he got injured, but players get injured all the time and have to recover from it. His output was not worth more than a B from a 20 YO top 6 forward. It isn't his fault he was put in that role. Him making the jump to the AHL has nothing to do with his season here ... and I'm a little surprised he got the invite. It likely has more to do with the AHL team needing healthy bodies ... and he was free and available. So are a lot of other players. Don't take away credit when credit is due. The kid thought he'd be playing in Jr.A this season for fun , instead makes the jump to major junior , produces at a respectable rate on a weak/young team and gets an ATO. Congrats Chris!
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Post by Porkchop on Apr 8, 2014 17:11:24 GMT -4
I don't disagree with Caissy's grade. I don't care that he was not in the Q in his previous years. But if you base it on expectations then you expected more from a guy taking up a 20 YO slot. He had good skill and had a good start to the season ... but never regained that level of play after his injury. Its too bad that he got injured, but players get injured all the time and have to recover from it. His output was not worth more than a B from a 20 YO top 6 forward. It isn't his fault he was put in that role. Him making the jump to the AHL has nothing to do with his season here ... and I'm a little surprised he got the invite. It likely has more to do with the AHL team needing healthy bodies ... and he was free and available. do you think the jump to the AHL would have happened if he were playing with his buddies in Jr. A somewhere? NOT. him making the jump to the AHL would have everything to do with his season there....if he wasn't in the Q, I doubt he would be AHL right now.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 8, 2014 17:36:55 GMT -4
I don't disagree with Caissy's grade. I don't care that he was not in the Q in his previous years. But if you base it on expectations then you expected more from a guy taking up a 20 YO slot. He had good skill and had a good start to the season ... but never regained that level of play after his injury. Its too bad that he got injured, but players get injured all the time and have to recover from it. His output was not worth more than a B from a 20 YO top 6 forward. It isn't his fault he was put in that role. Him making the jump to the AHL has nothing to do with his season here ... and I'm a little surprised he got the invite. It likely has more to do with the AHL team needing healthy bodies ... and he was free and available. By the same token they took a Jr.a guy as OA instead of trading assets to acquire one. They were hoping for around 30 points and solid 2 way play, he gave them a lot more offensively.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 8, 2014 17:51:28 GMT -4
I would give Johnson more like a C+ or B-...he was drafted to be a 2 way player and is mostly a defensive specialist. Had a chance for bigger minutes this year and didn't really capitalize.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Apr 8, 2014 19:51:38 GMT -4
I would give Johnson more like a C+ or B-...he was drafted to be a 2 way player and is mostly a defensive specialist. Had a chance for bigger minutes this year and didn't really capitalize. Johnson did what was asked and more. He exceeded expectations. I that's the general opinion amongst most fans as well.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 9, 2014 7:48:32 GMT -4
I would give Johnson more like a C+ or B-...he was drafted to be a 2 way player and is mostly a defensive specialist. Had a chance for bigger minutes this year and didn't really capitalize. Johnson did what was asked and more. He exceeded expectations. I that's the general opinion amongst most fans as well. He had what, 20 points at 18? He'd be 4th line on a contender, not good for a guy that was a top 5 round pick at 17 and they hyped to be an excellent 2 way player.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2014 7:57:14 GMT -4
Johnson did what was asked and more. He exceeded expectations. I that's the general opinion amongst most fans as well. He had what, 20 points at 18? He'd be 4th line on a contender, not good for a guy that was a top 5 round pick at 17 and they hyped to be an excellent 2 way player. He was 3rd liner on the Flyers ... I think your expectations are way off.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 9, 2014 8:03:03 GMT -4
I don't disagree with Caissy's grade. I don't care that he was not in the Q in his previous years. But if you base it on expectations then you expected more from a guy taking up a 20 YO slot. He had good skill and had a good start to the season ... but never regained that level of play after his injury. Its too bad that he got injured, but players get injured all the time and have to recover from it. His output was not worth more than a B from a 20 YO top 6 forward. It isn't his fault he was put in that role. Him making the jump to the AHL has nothing to do with his season here ... and I'm a little surprised he got the invite. It likely has more to do with the AHL team needing healthy bodies ... and he was free and available. By the same token they took a Jr.a guy as OA instead of trading assets to acquire one. They were hoping for around 30 points and solid 2 way play, he gave them a lot more offensively. I'm using Hodge's criteria. If you are going to use a 20 YO slot on a kid and give him top 6 icetime ... you expect more. He did great before his injury ... exceeded expectations ... but never recovered to that same level. You can feel sorry for him and give him a higher grade ... but if you take in his entire season then the grade is correct. No way he deserves any sort of A. A B isn't a bad grade ... it isn't a slap in the face to give him a B. What Shannon and/or Flynn did to get him here has nothing to do with the grade he deserves.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 9, 2014 8:06:21 GMT -4
He had what, 20 points at 18? He'd be 4th line on a contender, not good for a guy that was a top 5 round pick at 17 and they hyped to be an excellent 2 way player. He was 3rd liner on the Flyers ... I think your expectations are way off. He was 5th in scoring with 45 points in 35 games(2nd in goals with 26) with the Flyers at 16, 3rd in playoff scoring. Telus Cup he led the team in scoring.
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