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Post by mooseinfo on May 9, 2014 11:58:13 GMT -4
It's Evan Fitzpatrick not Fitzgerald. Not sure why Willy and John called him Fitzgerald. Well, John gets everybody's name wrong lol. Shhh there are 2 other players with Fitzgerald so they want the wrong ones selected so he slips to Halifax! |
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Post by statsman18 on May 9, 2014 12:06:02 GMT -4
It's Evan Fitzpatrick not Fitzgerald. Not sure why Willy and John called him Fitzgerald. Well, John gets everybody's name wrong lol. Shhh there are 2 other players with Fitzgerald so they want the wrong ones selected so he slips to Halifax! Yeah that's what is was trying to do. Throw people off so we hit a home run. Actually I'll admit it I had a brain fart. I knew his name was Fitzpatrick just Fitzgerald is a more common name and that's what came out. Sorry y'all. |
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Post by Porkchop on May 10, 2014 15:31:10 GMT -4
there are about 20 picks in the 1st round this year with a couple compensation picks......really you got the 3rd pick of the 2nd round.  If you get your player there, you are getting a 2nd round player, no matter how you try to sugar coat it. Let me guess, whoever Halifax takes, you'll run to CSR's rankings, and if the player isn't ranked as a 1st rounder, you'll say you told me so? No I won't...I just find it funny when people say things like their 2nd round pick is "basically" a 1st rounder. It doesn't matter what pick you have in the 2nd round, it's still a 2 nd round pick. If a player is 1st round talent he will be picked in the 1st round. |
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Post by Jacques Strap on May 11, 2014 12:15:55 GMT -4
I see teams now making some deals and trading first picks etc. Are any of u concerned the Mooseheads will miss the boat on some potential deals because the teams that would trade with us have already traded away their first round picks etc.
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Post by Gman on May 11, 2014 12:38:14 GMT -4
Let me guess, whoever Halifax takes, you'll run to CSR's rankings, and if the player isn't ranked as a 1st rounder, you'll say you told me so? No I won't...I just find it funny when people say things like their 2nd round pick is "basically" a 1st rounder. It doesn't matter what pick you have in the 2nd round, it's still a 2 nd round pick. If a player is 1st round talent he will be picked in the 1st round. First round talents slip to the 2nd because of teams like Bathurst picking 4th round talents in round 1  |
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 11, 2014 13:36:57 GMT -4
Let me guess, whoever Halifax takes, you'll run to CSR's rankings, and if the player isn't ranked as a 1st rounder, you'll say you told me so? No I won't...I just find it funny when people say things like their 2nd round pick is "basically" a 1st rounder. It doesn't matter what pick you have in the 2nd round, it's still a 2 nd round pick. If a player is 1st round talent he will be picked in the 1st round. I agree that a 2nd is a 2nd...especially in a draft with a top 5 pick added. But your player comment is out to lunch in a league where everyone has different scouting lists and players available to them. The #1 ranked player could be an american with no intention on playing here who goes in round 7. That does not change the fact hes the best player. In entry drafts 1st round talents can go in every round and a 5th round talent can go in round 1, especially if he has 1st round charachter. |
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Post by mooseinfo on May 11, 2014 16:36:39 GMT -4
In most cases I would rather 2 picks in the top to mid 2nd round than 1 in the bottom half of the 1st. So many players drop to the 2nd round that have huge differences of opinion and most of the so called consensus, cant miss, are gone early anyway.
Better odds to build the team out of the 2 then the 1 and less pressure. A good scouting staff will get what they need and a bad one has better odds to get a good player.
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Post by Porkchop on May 11, 2014 22:26:55 GMT -4
No I won't...I just find it funny when people say things like their 2nd round pick is "basically" a 1st rounder. It doesn't matter what pick you have in the 2nd round, it's still a 2 nd round pick. If a player is 1st round talent he will be picked in the 1st round. I agree that a 2nd is a 2nd...especially in a draft with a top 5 pick added. But your player comment is out to lunch in a league where everyone has different scouting lists and players available to them. The #1 ranked player could be an american with no intention on playing here who goes in round 7. That does not change the fact hes the best player. In entry drafts 1st round talents can go in every round and a 5th round talent can go in round 1, especially if he has 1st round charachter. follow the rankings and the picks.....usually not a heck of a lot of straying from that...possibly a player here and there, but not much. If teams let a guy drop the the 2nd round, it's usually because he was over-rated and shouldn't really have been there. An american who says he's not interested in the league, isn't really what I was talking about. |
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Post by statsman18 on May 12, 2014 6:26:16 GMT -4
I see teams now making some deals and trading first picks etc. Are any of u concerned the Mooseheads will miss the boat on some potential deals because the teams that would trade with us have already traded away their first round picks etc. What teams are you talking about? What teams want to trade with us? The only player we are going to miss out on cashing in is Weegar. With the uncertainty of if he goes pro or not makes it so hard to trade him. Right now I wish Cam just trades him to a team with some stipulations attached to the trade. Something like we get a 2nd rounder this draft for him. If he doesn't play in the Q we give the team our 2nd next but if he does they give us there 2nd for 2015. I think if he's in the league 100% he brings in at lest the same as Clapperton. This would be a fair way to get something for him. As for Fucale I still say his worth is highest at the Christmas period. Other then those 2 we don't have anyone that teams are going to knock our doors down for. Sure Ehlers is one of the top players in the league but he's not going anywhere. Gadoury is a sniper but Cam has committed to him already so he sticking at lest till Christmas. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on May 12, 2014 9:19:41 GMT -4
I see teams now making some deals and trading first picks etc. Are any of u concerned the Mooseheads will miss the boat on some potential deals because the teams that would trade with us have already traded away their first round picks etc. What teams are you talking about? What teams want to trade with us? The only player we are going to miss out on cashing in is Weegar. With the uncertainty of if he goes pro or not makes it so hard to trade him. Right now I wish Cam just trades him to a team with some stipulations attached to the trade. Something like we get a 2nd rounder this draft for him. If he doesn't play in the Q we give the team our 2nd next but if he does they give us there 2nd for 2015. I think if he's in the league 100% he brings in at lest the same as Clapperton. This would be a fair way to get something for him. As for Fucale I still say his worth is highest at the Christmas period. Other then those 2 we don't have anyone that teams are going to knock our doors down for. Sure Ehlers is one of the top players in the league but he's not going anywhere. Gadoury is a sniper but Cam has committed to him already so he sticking at lest till Christmas. I would love to see a Weegar deal for a pick, which would be increased if Weegar were to return. I would be shocked if he were to come back. He is clearly ready to learn at the next level. He played like 26 minutes of an NHL exhibition game last September and did fine, and their scouts are impressed with him. He will be ready for at least 3rd pairing duty in the AHL imo. Take what you can get now, because he won`t be back. As for Gadoury - yes we committed to him, but that doesn`t mean we can`t ask him if he would like to go to X team who plan on contending. Unless its Halifax or nothing for him, I doubt he rules out any trade whatsoever. But he is most likely a guy we keep for our offense, and move during the season once teams know who their 20`s are, who didn`t come back etc. |
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Post by Jacques Strap on May 12, 2014 11:18:38 GMT -4
I see teams now making some deals and trading first picks etc. Are any of u concerned the Mooseheads will miss the boat on some potential deals because the teams that would trade with us have already traded away their first round picks etc. What teams are you talking about? What teams want to trade with us? The only player we are going to miss out on cashing in is Weegar. With the uncertainty of if he goes pro or not makes it so hard to trade him. Right now I wish Cam just trades him to a team with some stipulations attached to the trade. Something like we get a 2nd rounder this draft for him. If he doesn't play in the Q we give the team our 2nd next but if he does they give us there 2nd for 2015. I think if he's in the league 100% he brings in at lest the same as Clapperton. This would be a fair way to get something for him. As for Fucale I still say his worth is highest at the Christmas period. Other then those 2 we don't have anyone that teams are going to knock our doors down for. Sure Ehlers is one of the top players in the league but he's not going anywhere. Gadoury is a sniper but Cam has committed to him already so he sticking at lest till Christmas. I guess I am just generalizing a bit. I saw some trades and got the thought in my head that if we wait too long, the teams that are looking for guys are going to have their deals done. I guess I am primarily thinking of Fucale. If we do hold off until Christmas, we also run the risk of nobody really needing a goalie. I guess I don't have a lot of patience and I guess I will need some especially if we are waiting to see if Weegar is coming back. |
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Post by Citris on May 12, 2014 12:16:30 GMT -4
No I won't...I just find it funny when people say things like their 2nd round pick is "basically" a 1st rounder. It doesn't matter what pick you have in the 2nd round, it's still a 2 nd round pick. If a player is 1st round talent he will be picked in the 1st round. I agree that a 2nd is a 2nd...especially in a draft with a top 5 pick added. But your player comment is out to lunch in a league where everyone has different scouting lists and players available to them. The #1 ranked player could be an american with no intention on playing here who goes in round 7. That does not change the fact hes the best player. In entry drafts 1st round talents can go in every round and a 5th round talent can go in round 1, especially if he has 1st round charachter. Yea, It would still really be nice to move up to the 1st round, but who knows what the Moosehead's list is like. Maybe they think their top guys will still be there 20 or so picks in? Still, it would be nice to move into the first round. |
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Post by Joe Rogan on May 12, 2014 15:21:56 GMT -4
It would be ideal if Cam found a way to get into the top of the first round and took that Fitzpatrick kid.
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Post by seαωo|f on May 12, 2014 15:52:04 GMT -4
Doubt that will happen. I think he'll grab Harvey 22nd overall.
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Post by Jacques Strap on May 12, 2014 16:48:38 GMT -4
Doubt that will happen. I think he'll grab Harvey 22nd overall. Yeah I was hoping we grab Harvey if he is still there. In my limited GM skills, too bad we couldn't get a first this year for a first next year and grab Fitzpatrick. Then if we make a Weegar or Fucale etc deal we will get a first back next year. I guess our first next year could be a higher pick though. |
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If you get your player there, you are getting a 2nd round player, no matter how you try to sugar coat it. 
