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Post by Jack Bauer on May 27, 2014 23:08:36 GMT -4
Interesting that Chicoutimi had to go out and secure a higher 1st as a part of the Roy trade. Moving from 19 to 13 while giving nothing up is a big jump.
I've read nothing in regards to the 2015 picks we own from Chicoutimi and Drummondville which I find interesting. I think some just assumed Drummondville's pick goes back to them for a player while Chicoutimi's was always a part of the Roy trade. Adds an interesting dynamic to the weekend with all of these trade chips.
Have the Euro rules changed in regards to us drafting another this year since Svechnikov did not report? I mean Svechnikov is '80%' according to Dumont but if we can find a 100% and are forced to move someone is it all that bad? Judging by the mess going on between Charlottetown and Gatineau there must be some changes.
I also notice that yet again the CB Post offers an article with the same information we already have heard. Yet there's nothing about Darcy and whether the team expects him back. No questions or comments about the goaltending that completely derailed the teams season. No mention of moving up to 13 after it's been reported elsewhere and incorrect facts and numbers all over the place. The quality of reporting from that paper has absolutely died in the last decade.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 27, 2014 23:15:37 GMT -4
Tomato.....Tamoto.......Fitzpatrick......Fitzgerald . Balmas may very well b there at 13 . See people use that saying because it's spelled the same but sounds different depending on who says it. You completely had the kids wrong last name listed which means you could mean a completely different player other then the top ranked Goaltender. And is your Balmas comment based on anything but the Q's list? I hear he's likely going top 10 and the odds of being there at 13 are slim and none but we will see.
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Post by sc74 on May 28, 2014 0:46:00 GMT -4
Interesting that Chicoutimi had to go out and secure a higher 1st as a part of the Roy trade. Moving from 19 to 13 while giving nothing up is a big jump. I've read nothing in regards to the 2015 picks we own from Chicoutimi and Drummondville which I find interesting. I think some just assumed Drummondville's pick goes back to them for a player while Chicoutimi's was always a part of the Roy trade. Adds an interesting dynamic to the weekend with all of these trade chips. Have the Euro rules changed in regards to us drafting another this year since Svechnikov did not report? I mean Svechnikov is '80%' according to Dumont but if we can find a 100% and are forced to move someone is it all that bad? Judging by the mess going on between Charlottetown and Gatineau there must be some changes. I also notice that yet again the CB Post offers an article with the same information we already have heard. Yet there's nothing about Darcy and whether the team expects him back. No questions or comments about the goaltending that completely derailed the teams season. No mention of moving up to 13 after it's been reported elsewhere and incorrect facts and numbers all over the place. The quality of reporting from that paper has absolutely died in the last decade. Unless Lazarev becomes an NHL first pick this summer, you can't draft another euro without releasing Svechnikov
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Post by EagleFan2009 on May 28, 2014 2:35:12 GMT -4
Tomato.....Tamoto.......Fitzpatrick......Fitzgerald . Balmas may very well b there at 13 . See people use that saying because it's spelled the same but sounds different depending on who says it. You completely had the kids wrong last name listed which means you could mean a completely different player other then the top ranked Goaltender. And is your Balmas comment based on anything but the Q's list? I hear he's likely going top 10 and the odds of being there at 13 are slim and none but we will see. Take the best available. Hal just cannot stand passing up on local players. If we somehow pass on balmas for a d, he will talk about it for months lol
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Post by catnut on May 28, 2014 7:22:33 GMT -4
Interesting that Chicoutimi had to go out and secure a higher 1st as a part of the Roy trade. Moving from 19 to 13 while giving nothing up is a big jump. I've read nothing in regards to the 2015 picks we own from Chicoutimi and Drummondville which I find interesting. I think some just assumed Drummondville's pick goes back to them for a player while Chicoutimi's was always a part of the Roy trade. Adds an interesting dynamic to the weekend with all of these trade chips. Have the Euro rules changed in regards to us drafting another this year since Svechnikov did not report? I mean Svechnikov is '80%' according to Dumont but if we can find a 100% and are forced to move someone is it all that bad? Judging by the mess going on between Charlottetown and Gatineau there must be some changes. I also notice that yet again the CB Post offers an article with the same information we already have heard. Yet there's nothing about Darcy and whether the team expects him back. No questions or comments about the goaltending that completely derailed the teams season. No mention of moving up to 13 after it's been reported elsewhere and incorrect facts and numbers all over the place. The quality of reporting from that paper has absolutely died in the last decade. Unless Lazarev becomes an NHL first pick this summer, you can't draft another euro without releasing Svechnikov Svechnikov goes on a special list since he went one year without showing up.
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Post by catnut on May 28, 2014 7:24:07 GMT -4
See people use that saying because it's spelled the same but sounds different depending on who says it. You completely had the kids wrong last name listed which means you could mean a completely different player other then the top ranked Goaltender. And is your Balmas comment based on anything but the Q's list? I hear he's likely going top 10 and the odds of being there at 13 are slim and none but we will see. Take the best available. Hal just cannot stand passing up on local players. If we somehow pass on balmas for a d, he will talk about it for months lol Months? Make that decades.
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Post by hal on May 28, 2014 7:36:22 GMT -4
Couple of comments .........yeah I like Locals ......I was basing the Balmas comment on the fact that some so called experts including Willy Palov have him going late in the first round . As far as `FITZPATRICK`goes .......what if he is gone before 5 .....if he is still there sprint the card up to the stage . I hope no one thinks I favour Balmas over that kid or the young Defenceman Green .
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Post by statsman18 on May 28, 2014 8:31:57 GMT -4
Going in we should have.... 014 Picks Rd 1 5th overall (Roy) Rd 1 13th overall(series of moves) Rd 2 30th CB Rd 2 31st (DesLauriers) Rd 2 35th Va via Gat (Leduc) Rd 3 39th Rim (Lavoie) Rd 5 CB Rd 5 Vic via Vdo(Larouche) Rd 5 Dru (Carrier) Rd 6 CB Rd 7 CB Rd 10 Mon (Nicholson) Rd 9-15 CB Out Rd 1 for Bell Rd 1(19th)for Rd 1(13th)series of moves Rd 2 Comp Pick Roy (DesChamps) Rd 3 for Marios; Rd 3 (Chi via Que)Beaudry Rd 4 for Culek; Rd 8 for Legare, 2015 Rd 1 CB Rd 1 (chi)Roy Rd 1 (dru)Carrier Rd 2 CB Rd 3 CB Rd 5 CB Rd 5 (que)Moody Rd 9 (Shaw)Legace Rd 10 (RN)Lantagne Rds 6-12 CB Out Rd 4 (Gat)Fortin 2016 In Rd 4 (She)Bureau The 39th pick is a 2nd rounder A. B it is part of the compensation for Roy and has nothing to do Lavoie. C I be leave it's also part of the Bureau trade now too.
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Post by seagle on May 28, 2014 9:09:34 GMT -4
39th has been changed to 45th Thanks
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Post by theqprofessor on May 28, 2014 9:39:37 GMT -4
I think they should grab Fitzpatrick at 5 and trade the 13th for a dman who is 17-18. Balmas would be nice to have but help right away is more important.
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Post by mooseinfo on May 28, 2014 9:55:54 GMT -4
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Post by eaglefan62 on May 28, 2014 11:14:09 GMT -4
In reading the article in the Post this morning, according to Dumont, all options are open at this point, drafts, trades, FAS. In the next three years, we have 11 picks in the first three rounds, wonder if Dumont might package some of these together to move up to pick ar #1 or #2, or possibly go after #1 AND #2, given the assetts that we have. According to yhe press reviews, young Luke Green and Evan Fitzgerald are the real deal, nice to somehow grab both of them, with the players we already have, we would be set for 2-3 years. Should be an interesting draft.
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Post by prostar on May 28, 2014 11:20:27 GMT -4
Interesting that Chicoutimi had to go out and secure a higher 1st as a part of the Roy trade. Moving from 19 to 13 while giving nothing up is a big jump. I've read nothing in regards to the 2015 picks we own from Chicoutimi and Drummondville which I find interesting. I think some just assumed Drummondville's pick goes back to them for a player while Chicoutimi's was always a part of the Roy trade. Adds an interesting dynamic to the weekend with all of these trade chips. Have the Euro rules changed in regards to us drafting another this year since Svechnikov did not report? I mean Svechnikov is '80%' according to Dumont but if we can find a 100% and are forced to move someone is it all that bad? Judging by the mess going on between Charlottetown and Gatineau there must be some changes. I also notice that yet again the CB Post offers an article with the same information we already have heard. Yet there's nothing about Darcy and whether the team expects him back. No questions or comments about the goaltending that completely derailed the teams season. No mention of moving up to 13 after it's been reported elsewhere and incorrect facts and numbers all over the place. The quality of reporting from that paper has absolutely died in the last decade. Interesting once again that Jack Bauer can not see the end of his nose on his face as he states in his thread that the main reason ooppps sorry I will take his words the goaltending that completely derailed the teams season were the hell were you during the last say six to eight games of the year when we did not bad from what I saw oh and yeah I agree with the fact that we got our ass kicked by Gatineau in the first round but GEEZ please be honest with your assessment as it's a team sport and if you have a look at the game tapes you will clearly notice this was not only a one position breakdown as YOU put it usually you post some good stuff but my friend here you are in the dark
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Post by Davey Boy Smith on May 28, 2014 11:24:16 GMT -4
I do not know what is going to happen on Saturday (and Friday for that matter since the trade window officially opens then) but I do know that this weekend is going to be very interesting. There are a lot of pieces/ assets for Dumont to play with if he so chooses. I don't think the Eagles have ever in their history gone into a draft with so many valuable draft picks.
In terms of moving up, you always need a willing partner in order to do that so there is no guarantee. There is also the possibility that he could trade some picks for players, maybe in the 17-18 year old range, but again you need a willing trading partner. This draft is harder to truly speculate about because there are so many variables.
Does Saturday feel like Christmas to anyone else? LOL
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Post by seagle on May 28, 2014 11:51:49 GMT -4
The past number of years the off season has been more interesting than the hockey season.
This off season as well but under a different set of circumstances.
I look at those five first rd selections in the next two years and would like to keep them. With those our compete level will be high for years to come. I think it is best to stabilize this franchise first before we strive for a title.
This years club has holes, a young D, a 19 year old unproven goaltender, a relatively weak crop of 19 year olds in general and uncertainty with our 20 year old group.
I would like to move our three remaining 2nd rd selections. They have value on the trade market and there is relatively little room for rookies on this years squad.
I like the thoughts of a 19 year old goalie first and moving up in the first rd second. I can't help but think that we were in discussions for Cooper with the seadogs but balked at the final price paid by the Islanders. I hope we stay that course.
I will be glued to this board Sat.
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