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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Sept 16, 2014 16:33:13 GMT -4
If you're going to make any big moves then Dubois will be gone as he will be the first thing teams ask for. I don't buy that at all. Teams declare players off limits all the time. If you're not going to discuss the dozen or so top assets we have because 1 was deemed untouchable then you're only hurting your own team. But you've got to give to receive and that is your best asset to do that. If you really want to add top assets then you're going to have to be prepared to do that or those targets will go elsewhere. And it's not like Dubois will be a Drouin/Huberdeau type player. And with this year and next being your target his value may get you something that can help when he may not be top impact during your go for it run.
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Sept 16, 2014 16:34:58 GMT -4
Not to mention that Fucale for CB doesn't make a whole lot of sense since there's a good chance he wont be back next season. I would say zero chance that Fucale would be back ,he is signed already I believe . I am not giving Dubois and a 1st rounder for Murphy ......at the very least not yet . I want to see how Duchesnes and MacIntyre work out . If you were the gm this team would have all cape Breton players and we would be in last place, so your opinion doesn't mean shit
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Post by hal on Sept 16, 2014 17:01:24 GMT -4
oooh that hurts !
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Post by hal on Sept 16, 2014 17:08:38 GMT -4
anyway , don;t we wait to see how the assets we added on the back end work out . Dec Trade Deadline ? By then they will have a better picture of what they see happening .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 16, 2014 17:22:04 GMT -4
I don't buy that at all. Teams declare players off limits all the time. If you're not going to discuss the dozen or so top assets we have because 1 was deemed untouchable then you're only hurting your own team. But you've got to give to receive and that is your best asset to do that. If you really want to add top assets then you're going to have to be prepared to do that or those targets will go elsewhere. And it's not like Dubois will be a Drouin/Huberdeau type player. And with this year and next being your target his value may get you something that can help when he may not be top impact during your go for it run. Depends on the player you're acquiring and how good they are. Do you really think we can't get into the discussions of top assets with what I can list in terms of young assets all because 1 player may not be available? Since you know how he will turn out why don't you tell us what comparables we can expect for Dubois. All I see is a big skilled 16yr old holding his own at this point. Haven't seen enough to know his full potential but since you know what he won't be why not letting us know what he will be so we can properly gauge his value. I'm not arguing that he's untouchable no matter who is available but I am saying that if Dumont declares he or a Bell untouchable that it doesn't change the market that he's in as a buyer because he still has enough assets to overpay for what he needs. From my point of view there are no Luc Bourdon types going on the market so the thought of giving up a top 5 pick for anyone short of that would be declared laughable by any Q GM as a buyer.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 16, 2014 17:22:51 GMT -4
anyway , don;t we wait to see how the assets we added on the back end work out . Dec Trade Deadline ? By then they will have a better picture of what they see happening . Yes by that point we're looking to add 1 more dman which pushes someone to the 3rd pairing that should not be there which in turn makes them trade bait.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Sept 16, 2014 17:37:45 GMT -4
But you've got to give to receive and that is your best asset to do that. If you really want to add top assets then you're going to have to be prepared to do that or those targets will go elsewhere. And it's not like Dubois will be a Drouin/Huberdeau type player. And with this year and next being your target his value may get you something that can help when he may not be top impact during your go for it run. Depends on the player you're acquiring and how good they are. Do you really think we can't get into the discussions of top assets with what I can list in terms of young assets all because 1 player may not be available? Since you know how he will turn out why don't you tell us what comparables we can expect for Dubois. All I see is a big skilled 16yr old holding his own at this point. Haven't seen enough to know his full potential but since you know what he won't be why not letting us know what he will be so we can properly gauge his value. I'm not arguing that he's untouchable no matter who is available but I am saying that if Dumont declares he or a Bell untouchable that it doesn't change the market that he's in as a buyer because he still has enough assets to overpay for what he needs. From my point of view there are no Luc Bourdon types going on the market so the thought of giving up a top 5 pick for anyone short of that would be declared laughable by any Q GM as a buyer. Yes it depends on the type of players you are targetting. The one D mentioned here has been Matt Murphy and for a player like that you can get them for other assets you have. (Any deal there likely has O'Leary as the centrepiece). I'm talking about him being a piece for the very top players in the league, not just good ones. Players hold more value than picks especially ones who have shown they can play in the league and if you're going for top-end players on the market and other teams are offering top prospects they have the jump. Do you have other prospects that may have that impact/value? A big first half could put Bell there but a few people has some reservations about him too. There aren't many players who are truly untouchable and if you're going for it would be trading someone who might be on your third line (thinking Russians-Bishop, Legare-Pelletier-Farrell is the top six) for a top player be a bad move even if they are a top pick? It could be something similar to Val D'Or moving Henley last year, who many thought was untouchable and that move paid off. It may be that they just decide on not making a big splash this year and look to concentrating on next year then you can obviously be more choosey. It will come down to a potential all-in position. With the chance of two back-to-back runs it could be very tempting if everything falls into place.
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Post by emerz on Sept 16, 2014 23:20:30 GMT -4
Bishop has been invited to the Hurricanes main camp so we won't see him this weekend.
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Post by theqprofessor on Sept 17, 2014 13:40:02 GMT -4
Same with Brassard, will be at Buffalo main camp
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 17, 2014 14:43:24 GMT -4
I would say zero chance that Fucale would be back ,he is signed already I believe . I am not giving Dubois and a 1st rounder for Murphy ......at the very least not yet . I want to see how Duchesnes and MacIntyre work out . If you were the gm this team would have all cape Breton players and we would be in last place, so your opinion doesn't mean shit As far as I know none of us here is actually running any QMJHL team so all of our opinions don't count.
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Post by emerz on Sept 17, 2014 17:57:13 GMT -4
Pelletier will be back with us for the weekend and I think MacIntyre is going to be staying with the Avalanche for their main camp.
Edit: MacIntyre staying for Avs main camp.
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Post by hal on Sept 17, 2014 19:15:21 GMT -4
If you were the gm this team would have all cape Breton players and we would be in last place, so your opinion doesn't mean shit As far as I know none of us here is actually running any QMJHL team so all of our opinions don't count. Good Point.....Amen Brother !
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Post by looneytunes on Sept 17, 2014 19:35:17 GMT -4
Thanks for the update. Will PEI still be missing any?
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Post by emerz on Sept 17, 2014 20:21:55 GMT -4
Thanks for the update. Will PEI still be missing any? Ryan MacKinnon, Dipaolo, Ross Johnston and Mason MacDonald.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 21:25:29 GMT -4
Oliver Cooper also
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