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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Nov 13, 2014 11:29:47 GMT -4
Oops didn't realize it had been re-acquired via trade. I knew it was initially traded away though. Mooseheads picks for 2015 draft. Halifax : 1-2-2BC-3-4-5-6-6CHI-7-7BC-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 Hopefully some trades can get us some more early round picks too. Fucale absolutely would get multiples, I wouldn't be surprised if Murphy gets us at least 1 good pick (despite his occasional struggles as basically a #1 guy this year). I believe Gadoury would be a big offensive pickup - but at the same time he's a 20, and hasn't produced as much as I would have hoped to this point yet. Hard to guess his value. Ehlers would be a big haul too if they were so bold to do that.
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Post by bois on Nov 13, 2014 11:54:19 GMT -4
Just thought I'd mention Crossley is at 21 games without a single point. Other than some flashes as a penalty killing specialist, I'd call him a bit of a disappointment. He doesn't seem to have any desire or ability to generate offence, and seems happy to just stay back and play defensively all the time. You can get guys like that in later rounds... not sure what the scouting staff saw in the kid that made them think they had to scoop him up at #21. I'd say he's just been unlucky and fluky to not have a point but when you watch him play, he never even gets in a position to help his line generate offense, so I'd say it's not a fluke. Well if you can get your hands on the time on ice numbers you would know exactly why Crossley gets 0 points. He never gets ice time. He really only gets PK time and consistently PK. Not sure a 16 year old will rack up points doing that. Do we even have a SH goal yet this year? He did get points in the exhibition season and playing regular minutes. how is he a -7 if he gets no icetime and almost just PK? he must be extremely unlucky to get scored on every shift he takes lol
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Nov 13, 2014 12:04:03 GMT -4
We have our first pick for this draft 2015. I think Val'dor had last year's first. I think Crossley was picked high because of his name. Oops didn't realize it had been re-acquired via trade. I knew it was initially traded away though. I think the 2015 pick was a holding pick because of the Boudreau/2014 1st future deal with #TheShawi
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 12:28:25 GMT -4
Mooseheads picks for 2015 draft. Halifax : 1-2-2BC-3-4-5-6-6CHI-7-7BC-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 Hopefully some trades can get us some more early round picks too. Fucale absolutely would get multiples, I wouldn't be surprised if Murphy gets us at least 1 good pick (despite his occasional struggles as basically a #1 guy this year). I believe Gadoury would be a big offensive pickup - but at the same time he's a 20, and hasn't produced as much as I would have hoped to this point yet. Hard to guess his value. Ehlers would be a big haul too if they were so bold to do that. IMO it would be great to get at least 1 2016 1st rounder especially if Cam goes full sell as the 1st rounders we would get in 2015 are going to be low and a 2016 from someone going full in for this year should lead to a high 2016 1st rounder; of course we'll have our own high 2016 but the thought of drafting Joey Vellano, F, and Jared MacIsaac, D, in 2016 along with Shane Bowers in this years draft would make a full sell worthwhile.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 12:29:37 GMT -4
Oops didn't realize it had been re-acquired via trade. I knew it was initially traded away though. I think the 2015 pick was a holding pick because of the Boudreau/2014 1st future deal with #TheShawi That is correct.
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Post by Citris on Nov 13, 2014 13:48:28 GMT -4
Not to rag on the subject but I was watching Nauss a little closer last night just to see if I could pick out reasons why he's struggling defensively. Seriously, Friday night, just spend a shift or 2 watching where his head is pointing. The kid NEVER breaks eye contact with the puck. Never checks his shoulder or looks around, just stares at the puck all the time.
2 plays in particular that stood out, 1 where Ryan and him were in a footrace for the puck near the end-boards, he doesn't look back over his shoulder to see how far the gap between him and Ryan is, even when he has the puck and makes the pass, not once did he look.
2nd was when Tailliefer had the puck behind our net and Nauss just stood on the goal line, leaned his head forward and stared at Tailliefer's stick for 7 seconds.
This is where coaching concerns me.... 20 games into the season, this shouldn't be happening. Not only is it a wonderful way to create turnovers but he's going to get himself killed out there if he doesn't keep his head up.
Ford isn't much better in this department either, he occasionally looks but not nearly enough. Just compare how often Ford moves his head/eyes to Hardie. The kids have no idea what's going on around them on the ice.
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Post by mooseinfo on Nov 13, 2014 22:00:56 GMT -4
Not to rag on the subject but I was watching Nauss a little closer last night just to see if I could pick out reasons why he's struggling defensively. Seriously, Friday night, just spend a shift or 2 watching where his head is pointing. The kid NEVER breaks eye contact with the puck. Never checks his shoulder or looks around, just stares at the puck all the time. 2 plays in particular that stood out, 1 where Ryan and him were in a footrace for the puck near the end-boards, he doesn't look back over his shoulder to see how far the gap between him and Ryan is, even when he has the puck and makes the pass, not once did he look. 2nd was when Tailliefer had the puck behind our net and Nauss just stood on the goal line, leaned his head forward and stared at Tailliefer's stick for 7 seconds. This is where coaching concerns me.... 20 games into the season, this shouldn't be happening. Not only is it a wonderful way to create turnovers but he's going to get himself killed out there if he doesn't keep his head up. Ford isn't much better in this department either, he occasionally looks but not nearly enough. Just compare how often Ford moves his head/eyes to Hardie. The kids have no idea what's going on around them on the ice. Interesting observation, kinda like most people in a car or the great one.
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Post by hockeybuff on Nov 13, 2014 23:49:35 GMT -4
Not to rag on the subject but I was watching Nauss a little closer last night just to see if I could pick out reasons why he's struggling defensively. Seriously, Friday night, just spend a shift or 2 watching where his head is pointing. The kid NEVER breaks eye contact with the puck. Never checks his shoulder or looks around, just stares at the puck all the time. 2 plays in particular that stood out, 1 where Ryan and him were in a footrace for the puck near the end-boards, he doesn't look back over his shoulder to see how far the gap between him and Ryan is, even when he has the puck and makes the pass, not once did he look. 2nd was when Tailliefer had the puck behind our net and Nauss just stood on the goal line, leaned his head forward and stared at Tailliefer's stick for 7 seconds. This is where coaching concerns me.... 20 games into the season, this shouldn't be happening. Not only is it a wonderful way to create turnovers but he's going to get himself killed out there if he doesn't keep his head up. Ford isn't much better in this department either, he occasionally looks but not nearly enough. Just compare how often Ford moves his head/eyes to Hardie. The kids have no idea what's going on around them on the ice. Comparing a young D crew to a guy that has played 200 games versus 20 is a little harsh. Maybe the veteran D could take the kids aside at practice and lead, I mean teach, them how to improve their play. Hockey is a game of mistakes....if not the score would always be 0-0. It's how the team/kids progress and learn over the season that is key.
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Post by Citris on Nov 14, 2014 8:17:08 GMT -4
Comparing a young D crew to a guy that has played 200 games versus 20 is a little harsh. Maybe the veteran D could take the kids aside at practice and lead, I mean teach, them how to improve their play. Hockey is a game of mistakes....if not the score would always be 0-0. It's how the team/kids progress and learn over the season that is key. The point wasn't to say that they should be where Hardie is right now. Just that there should be gradual improvement. I think Ford is improving a bit each game, it just worries me when I see stuff like what Nauss is doing. I feel like it's something that should be addressed by the coaches, and as you said, the veterans as well.
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Post by mooseinfo on Nov 14, 2014 11:52:27 GMT -4
Comparing a young D crew to a guy that has played 200 games versus 20 is a little harsh. Maybe the veteran D could take the kids aside at practice and lead, I mean teach, them how to improve their play. Hockey is a game of mistakes....if not the score would always be 0-0. It's how the team/kids progress and learn over the season that is key. The point wasn't to say that they should be where Hardie is right now. Just that there should be gradual improvement. I think Ford is improving a bit each game, it just worries me when I see stuff like what Nauss is doing. I feel like it's something that should be addressed by the coaches, and as you said, the veterans as well. I think your over thinking this, you seem to be spending too much time worrying about it rather than enjoying the process. At least give rookies until Xmas to see improvement. Based on Nauss power play vision I think your wrong on a player his age and especially where drafted.
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Post by paulmcswain on Nov 14, 2014 15:31:01 GMT -4
Comparing a young D crew to a guy that has played 200 games versus 20 is a little harsh. Maybe the veteran D could take the kids aside at practice and lead, I mean teach, them how to improve their play. Hockey is a game of mistakes....if not the score would always be 0-0. It's how the team/kids progress and learn over the season that is key. The point wasn't to say that they should be where Hardie is right now. Just that there should be gradual improvement. I think Ford is improving a bit each game, it just worries me when I see stuff like what Nauss is doing. I feel like it's something that should be addressed by the coaches, and as you said, the veterans as well. You should expect stuff like that out of 16 year olds picked in round 5. There is a reason he wasn't chosen in the top 5. He has holes in his game...holes that aren't going to be fixed by 2 months worth of coaching.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Nov 14, 2014 15:39:25 GMT -4
Interesting observation, kinda like most people in a car or the great one. I must have missed something here....did you just bash Wayne Gretzky?
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Post by mooseinfo on Nov 14, 2014 17:07:45 GMT -4
Interesting observation, kinda like most people in a car or the great one. I must have missed something here....did you just bash Wayne Gretzky? Nah Just making a point that you can see more than where your head is pointing and/or there is no need to look anyway.
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Post by nsvees on Nov 21, 2014 14:56:29 GMT -4
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Post by Reesor on Nov 22, 2014 12:35:50 GMT -4
Good read, but it's really tough to gauge the direction the Moose will go based on an article like that. If Cam Russell said "We are selling big time", he may not get full value for his top players. He can't hint of desperation.
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