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Post by lirette on Nov 18, 2014 16:48:13 GMT -4
Really ? As far as I am concerned he has been everything you expect from a young backup. He looks very good to me ... good rebound control ... good positionally. All he needs now is playing time to get into a groove ... but that won't happen too much this year. He has been more solid than shaky IMO. He is 18, so he isn't really a "young" goalie, he should be entering his prime. If he isn't going to be a #1 quality guy next year, then bring somebody else in...Dubeau is gone in 5-6 months. He's played 15 games in the QMJHL. most of which have been against Bathurst and other weaker teams. Not sure how he can be expected to be in his prime. It's not like a new guy coming in is going to get anymore game experience than he has. If we have any younger prospects in the system I'd rather them be playing elsewhere getting actual game action. He's been fine as a backup this season.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 18, 2014 16:53:07 GMT -4
He is 18, so he isn't really a "young" goalie, he should be entering his prime. If he isn't going to be a #1 quality guy next year, then bring somebody else in...Dubeau is gone in 5-6 months. He's played 15 games in the QMJHL. most of which have been against Bathurst and other weaker teams. Not sure how he can be expected to be in his prime. It's not like a new guy coming in is going to get anymore game experience than he has. If we have any younger prospects in the system I'd rather them be playing elsewhere getting actual game action. He's been fine as a backup this season. The Cats have done a lot of this in the past, getting an 18 or 19 year old FA and he becomes the #1 the following year...Sniderman, Lavigne, Owen, Roggiero, SDV etc
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Post by handsome on Nov 18, 2014 18:33:02 GMT -4
What about talbot-Tassi's brother! He's playing in the same league as Dupré, but he's showing better stats! He was first in the league since the start of the season with a 1.33 GAA and 0.933 save % and since the last weekend he is second with 0.903 save % and 2.29 GAA..
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Post by Don Draper on Nov 18, 2014 22:07:51 GMT -4
He's played 15 games in the QMJHL. most of which have been against Bathurst and other weaker teams. Not sure how he can be expected to be in his prime. It's not like a new guy coming in is going to get anymore game experience than he has. If we have any younger prospects in the system I'd rather them be playing elsewhere getting actual game action. He's been fine as a backup this season. The Cats have done a lot of this in the past, getting an 18 or 19 year old FA and he becomes the #1 the following year...Sniderman, Lavigne, Owen, Roggiero, SDV etc Huh? Lavigne was the #1 his second year in the league, all right... for Quebec. Meanwhile, Riopel only won league MVP here. Ruggiero was the #1 right off the bat at 19... because literally the only other option was 16 year old Matt Davis and maybe one other guy I'll mention in a second. Following year Ruggiero was #1 for all of two months... before management (wisely) went with the tandem of Davis and Crawford. Who is SDV? Please, please, please tell me you aren't referring to Scott Della Vedova. If you are, I don't think I have to continue this post any longer. So... that makes this post about 40% right at best... pretty good I suppose, all things considered.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 19, 2014 8:41:47 GMT -4
The Cats have done a lot of this in the past, getting an 18 or 19 year old FA and he becomes the #1 the following year...Sniderman, Lavigne, Owen, Roggiero, SDV etc Huh? Lavigne was the #1 his second year in the league, all right... for Quebec. Meanwhile, Riopel only won league MVP here. Ruggiero was the #1 right off the bat at 19... because literally the only other option was 16 year old Matt Davis and maybe one other guy I'll mention in a second. Following year Ruggiero was #1 for all of two months... before management (wisely) went with the tandem of Davis and Crawford. Who is SDV? Please, please, please tell me you aren't referring to Scott Della Vedova. If you are, I don't think I have to continue this post any longer. So... that makes this post about 40% right at best... pretty good I suppose, all things considered. Not sure why you get all defensive for a player that would costs nothing? The point being that there are FA options available, no harm in bringing one in. Ruggiero was great at 19 behind a horrible team. Lavigne would have been #1 in Moncton if not for Riopel. The Cats currently have no one for next year, what is there to lose by bringing somebody in for a month or so and having a look?
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 19, 2014 9:22:18 GMT -4
Huh? Lavigne was the #1 his second year in the league, all right... for Quebec. Meanwhile, Riopel only won league MVP here. Ruggiero was the #1 right off the bat at 19... because literally the only other option was 16 year old Matt Davis and maybe one other guy I'll mention in a second. Following year Ruggiero was #1 for all of two months... before management (wisely) went with the tandem of Davis and Crawford. Who is SDV? Please, please, please tell me you aren't referring to Scott Della Vedova. If you are, I don't think I have to continue this post any longer. So... that makes this post about 40% right at best... pretty good I suppose, all things considered. Not sure why you get all defensive for a player that would costs nothing? The point being that there are FA options available, no harm in bringing one in. Ruggiero was great at 19 behind a horrible team. Lavigne would have been #1 in Moncton if not for Riopel. The Cats currently have no one for next year, what is there to lose by bringing somebody in for a month or so and having a look? You lose development time for Rioux ... the guy everybody but you expects to take over next year. IMO Rioux is a good backup ... I'm not sure why you are so negative toward him now. Because he let in a soft goal on Saturday ? Were you even at the game ? A guy that plays one out of 5 starts is going to have a few get by him that he would like to have back ... that has been the way it is for just about every backup goaltender. I remember Riopel struggling as a backup ... I remember Owen letting in softies as a backup ... I remember Lavigne letting in soft goals as a backup.
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Post by lirette on Nov 19, 2014 10:19:39 GMT -4
Not sure why you get all defensive for a player that would costs nothing? The point being that there are FA options available, no harm in bringing one in. Ruggiero was great at 19 behind a horrible team. Lavigne would have been #1 in Moncton if not for Riopel. The Cats currently have no one for next year, what is there to lose by bringing somebody in for a month or so and having a look? You lose development time for Rioux ... the guy everybody but you expects to take over next year. IMO Rioux is a good backup ... I'm not sure why you are so negative toward him now. Because he let in a soft goal on Saturday ? Were you even at the game ? A guy that plays one out of 5 starts is going to have a few get by him that he would like to have back ... that has been the way it is for just about every backup goaltender. I remember Riopel struggling as a backup ... I remember Owen letting in softies as a backup ... I remember Lavigne letting in soft goals as a backup. And dubeau lets in softies as a 20 YO starter. Realistically in junior hockey there isn't a single goalie immune to the weak goal. Nearly every goalie that has come into the coliseum this year has let in a weak goal. The Cats have never been afraid of the free agent market so I am pretty sure if there was a future #1 goalie available right now for free I am confident the WIldcats would pursue that. I don't see it as a big issue.
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Post by bmiller on Nov 19, 2014 14:00:00 GMT -4
look around the league. Back-up are the same level as Rioux. I don't think he can be a number 1 next year. If they drafted a second year midget in 6th round last summer, I hope he can be good for us in 15-16.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Nov 19, 2014 14:04:51 GMT -4
I kind of regret making that post about the weak goal now. Overall Rioux's body of work has been pretty good this year. Definitely a solid back-up and a complete non-issue right now.
As a whole the goaltending really hasn't been up to par or at least what I would have expected coming into the season. Yes, I totally understand that the defensive play has been sub-par and that's a contributing factor, but Dubeau has fallen back into 2011/12 form with some of the soft goals. It wasn't exactly a stellar defensive squad last year either and Dubeau was much better than he has been so far this season.
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