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Post by SteveUL on Dec 7, 2014 13:22:36 GMT -4
I would also like to know why Moncton is allowed to trade Tkachev who has only played for you since February, but SJ isn't allowed to trade Siska when both were drafted last year. Who said SJ was not allowed to trade Siska? Wasn't that the debate earlier this year? To trade Siska or cut Li? If he wasn't eligible to be traded it is because he went on a special list due to his long term injury ... which allowed SJ to draft two new Euros ... thats how they got 3. Tkachev showed up and played last year ... and showed up again this year. The only reason he wasn't here in August last year was because of a strike at the embassies.
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Tkachev
Dec 7, 2014 13:24:33 GMT -4
Post by bois on Dec 7, 2014 13:24:33 GMT -4
Siska may have been eligible to be traded and simply nobody wanted to take the risk... and hindsight shows they were probably right
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Tkachev
Dec 7, 2014 13:33:47 GMT -4
Post by Briwhel on Dec 7, 2014 13:33:47 GMT -4
Who said SJ was not allowed to trade Siska? Wasn't that the debate earlier this year? To trade Siska or cut Li? If he wasn't eligible to be traded it is because he went on a special list due to his long term injury ... which allowed SJ to draft two new Euros ... thats how they got 3. Tkachev showed up and played last year ... and showed up again this year. The only reason he wasn't here in August last year was because of a strike at the embassies. And because he was playing in the MHL and KHL
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Tkachev
Dec 7, 2014 13:47:24 GMT -4
Post by Briwhel on Dec 7, 2014 13:47:24 GMT -4
Let me put my complaint another way...Charlottetown could not acquire Karabacek at the Euro draft because he hadn't been signed for 365 days and Saint John can't trade Siska because he hasn't been available for 365 days (even if he traveled to SJ to get checked out by our doctors last year) but Tkachev can (when he also has not been a Wildcat for 365 days).
I understand that allowing SJ to trade Siska when we had 3 Euros would set a bad precedent. But we still are not allowed to trade him even if we line up a deal for another Euro. It won't happen, but if SJ ever were to acquire Ehlers from Halifax, we would WANT Siska to be headed there as part of the deal (to ensure that he is playing in an English speaking community and does not have another significant culture shock). Instead, we would have to release him with the chance that someone lower in the standings could grab him like a Val D'Or.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 7, 2014 13:54:04 GMT -4
Siska may have been eligible to be traded and simply nobody wanted to take the risk... and hindsight shows they were probably right Probably ... who would take the risk on a guy that missed a whole season. Nobody had room for him in September to give up assets. I just don't think that option had a buyer.
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Tkachev
Dec 7, 2014 13:55:58 GMT -4
Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Dec 7, 2014 13:55:58 GMT -4
Let me put my complaint another way...Charlottetown could not acquire Karabacek at the Euro draft because he hadn't been signed for 365 days and Saint John can't trade Siska because he hasn't been available for 365 days (even if he traveled to SJ to get checked out by our doctors last year) but Tkachev can (when he also has not been a Wildcat for 365 days). I understand that allowing SJ to trade Siska when we had 3 Euros would set a bad precedent. But we still are not allowed to trade him even if we line up a deal for another Euro. It won't happen, but if SJ ever were to acquire Ehlers from Halifax, we would WANT Siska to be headed there as part of the deal (to ensure that he is playing in an English speaking community and does not have another significant culture shock). Instead, we would have to release him with the chance that someone lower in the standings could grab him like a Val D'Or. But would Halifax want him That's the bigger key, so you may end up having to release him anyway with a low impact Euro like all of Bathurst's.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 7, 2014 13:56:32 GMT -4
If he wasn't eligible to be traded it is because he went on a special list due to his long term injury ... which allowed SJ to draft two new Euros ... thats how they got 3. Tkachev showed up and played last year ... and showed up again this year. The only reason he wasn't here in August last year was because of a strike at the embassies. And because he was playing in the MHL and KHL He only signed with the KHL when he couldn't get a visa ... he had to play somewhere. He was not balking in showing up at all. Siska went on a special list ... that is the basis of the answer if he was inelligible for a trade.
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Tkachev
Dec 7, 2014 14:01:31 GMT -4
Post by Briwhel on Dec 7, 2014 14:01:31 GMT -4
Let me put my complaint another way...Charlottetown could not acquire Karabacek at the Euro draft because he hadn't been signed for 365 days and Saint John can't trade Siska because he hasn't been available for 365 days (even if he traveled to SJ to get checked out by our doctors last year) but Tkachev can (when he also has not been a Wildcat for 365 days). I understand that allowing SJ to trade Siska when we had 3 Euros would set a bad precedent. But we still are not allowed to trade him even if we line up a deal for another Euro. It won't happen, but if SJ ever were to acquire Ehlers from Halifax, we would WANT Siska to be headed there as part of the deal (to ensure that he is playing in an English speaking community and does not have another significant culture shock). Instead, we would have to release him with the chance that someone lower in the standings could grab him like a Val D'Or. But would Halifax want him That's the bigger key, so you may end up having to release him anyway with a low impact Euro like all of Bathurst's. He's actually a pretty good Euro and one we will keep anyway. I was speaking in hypotheticals. He's played the whole year with no chemistry with his linemates, but the most noticeable thing about his game is that he's excellent at getting pucks out of the zone. His 9 points are a bit underwhelming, though he has had 2 goals called back by referee mistakes. Worst case, we have a fourth line that can take a regular shift without hurting us. Best case, he develops chemistry with Dempsey and the 16s and they start generating more offense (he and Del Paggio were one of the worst linemate combinations in terms of chemistry I've seen in this league).
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Tkachev
Dec 7, 2014 14:02:48 GMT -4
Post by Briwhel on Dec 7, 2014 14:02:48 GMT -4
And because he was playing in the MHL and KHL He only signed with the KHL when he couldn't get a visa ... he had to play somewhere. He was not balking in showing up at all. Siska went on a special list ... that is the basis of the answer if he was inelligible for a trade. Karabacek didn't go on a special list and still wasn't eligible to be dealt at the Euro draft. And why Tkachev wasn't here is irrelevant to the fact that he was playing in another league at this time last year.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 7, 2014 14:13:29 GMT -4
He only signed with the KHL when he couldn't get a visa ... he had to play somewhere. He was not balking in showing up at all. Siska went on a special list ... that is the basis of the answer if he was inelligible for a trade. Karabacek didn't go on a special list and still wasn't eligible to be dealt at the Euro draft. And why Tkachev wasn't here is irrelevant to the fact that he was playing in another league at this time last year. Tkachev was drafted in 2013 ... played that year ... and the 2014 import draft has passed ... making him elligible. Karabacek wasn't eligible for trade prior to the 2014 import draft ... he was after. Siska was drafted in 2013 ... never played because of a pre-existing injury ... he probably didn't even sign a player card .. and SJ requested that he go on the special list which was granted. That likely bumped his status by a year ... but not sure. Each case is different.
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