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Post by hfxfan09 on Jan 20, 2015 12:48:13 GMT -4
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Post by Gman on Jan 20, 2015 13:29:09 GMT -4
12 under NA skaters, not overall, but still impressive considering he was not really on the radar at all last year.
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Post by mooseinfo on Jan 20, 2015 13:32:05 GMT -4
Ideally if he gets into the first round Moose can select a new first round import this year and next without having to worry about the status of Ehlers next year or Meier the following.
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 20, 2015 14:13:14 GMT -4
Ideally if he gets into the first round Moose can select a new first round import this year and next without having to worry about the status of Ehlers next year or Meier the following. Aren't they the same age ? Both are 18, so both will be 19 next year. Meier has a late birthday. So you could take advantage of drafting 2 new Imports this year with both Ehlers and Meier on the special list (if Meier went in Rd 1). The year after, Meier would be a 20 YO and would be on the special list anyways ... and probably gone to the AHL. That rule is a good one ... it works well for everybody. For example ... if Meier is a Rd 1 pick, you guys grab 2 new Imports. You won't know until after the season starts whether these guys are back, so you probably bring both guys in. But if both guys return, then both of your new guys either go on waivers, or you trade both of your returning guys. Even if you don't bring in the new guys, you'd have to release 2 names from your protected list. They'd be eligible to be picked up by other teams ... like Victo picked up Li from SJ. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Jan 20, 2015 14:25:34 GMT -4
I don't see any real advantage to being able to pick 2 extra's euro based on Meier being a 1st rounder honestly, seeing as we can't trade the player we picked anyway. Meier will be back for sure, barring some incredible progress the next few months. We need to plan to have a third euro, but not a fourth imo.
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 20, 2015 15:42:20 GMT -4
I don't see any real advantage to being able to pick 2 extra's euro based on Meier being a 1st rounder honestly, seeing as we can't trade the player we picked anyway. Meier will be back for sure, barring some incredible progress the next few months. We need to plan to have a third euro, but not a fourth imo. I certainly don't think that he is NHL ready ... but he has taken a big jump forward this year, and he is physically more ready than most players being named in the draft ... including many taken last year. Stranger things have happened. I'm reminded of Patrice Bergeron, whom nobody expected to play NHL at 18. Meier will be 19 ... and is a big strong power forward with speed and skill ... and a bit of a nasty edge. Obviously it depends on who drafts him ... but I wouldn't say there is no way he makes the jump. Last year my assessment of him was just an average Euro ... so he has jumped miles ahead of that. IMO ... if you have the chance to draft an extra Import, you should. It opens up an opportunity to trade a guy like Meier for a very good return. If you don't use the kid then you waive him, and he can perhaps catch on elsewhere in the Q. |
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Post by Jacques Strap on Jan 20, 2015 16:36:00 GMT -4
I don't see any real advantage to being able to pick 2 extra's euro based on Meier being a 1st rounder honestly, seeing as we can't trade the player we picked anyway. Meier will be back for sure, barring some incredible progress the next few months. We need to plan to have a third euro, but not a fourth imo. I certainly don't think that he is NHL ready ... but he has taken a big jump forward this year, and he is physically more ready than most players being named in the draft ... including many taken last year. Stranger things have happened. I'm reminded of Patrice Bergeron, whom nobody expected to play NHL at 18. Meier will be 19 ... and is a big strong power forward with speed and skill ... and a bit of a nasty edge. Obviously it depends on who drafts him ... but I wouldn't say there is no way he makes the jump. Last year my assessment of him was just an average Euro ... so he has jumped miles ahead of that. IMO ... if you have the chance to draft an extra Import, you should. It opens up an opportunity to trade a guy like Meier for a very good return. If you don't use the kid then you waive him, and he can perhaps catch on elsewhere in the Q. Maybe we can shoot for the stars and draft a guy like Kovalchuk(if there is one available) as CB did. |
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Post by SteveUL on Jan 20, 2015 18:01:23 GMT -4
I certainly don't think that he is NHL ready ... but he has taken a big jump forward this year, and he is physically more ready than most players being named in the draft ... including many taken last year. Stranger things have happened. I'm reminded of Patrice Bergeron, whom nobody expected to play NHL at 18. Meier will be 19 ... and is a big strong power forward with speed and skill ... and a bit of a nasty edge. Obviously it depends on who drafts him ... but I wouldn't say there is no way he makes the jump. Last year my assessment of him was just an average Euro ... so he has jumped miles ahead of that. IMO ... if you have the chance to draft an extra Import, you should. It opens up an opportunity to trade a guy like Meier for a very good return. If you don't use the kid then you waive him, and he can perhaps catch on elsewhere in the Q. Maybe we can shoot for the stars and draft a guy like Kovalchuk(if there is one available) as CB did. With KHL and the ruble in some trouble, you'll see a lot more Russians interested in coming to North America. Might be worth a flyer pick. |
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Post by mooseinfo on Jan 20, 2015 18:14:17 GMT -4
I certainly don't think that he is NHL ready ... but he has taken a big jump forward this year, and he is physically more ready than most players being named in the draft ... including many taken last year. Stranger things have happened. I'm reminded of Patrice Bergeron, whom nobody expected to play NHL at 18. Meier will be 19 ... and is a big strong power forward with speed and skill ... and a bit of a nasty edge. Obviously it depends on who drafts him ... but I wouldn't say there is no way he makes the jump. Last year my assessment of him was just an average Euro ... so he has jumped miles ahead of that. IMO ... if you have the chance to draft an extra Import, you should. It opens up an opportunity to trade a guy like Meier for a very good return. If you don't use the kid then you waive him, and he can perhaps catch on elsewhere in the Q. Maybe we can shoot for the stars and draft a guy like Kovalchuk(if there is one available) as CB did. I thought they may do that last year. Keep adding long shots when you can, knowing they may only report in some crazy scenario but IF they do you hit the jackpot. You could hold the rights to several that dont report and end up like Quebec did with extra options. I know some would think waivers just helps the competition when that happens but if a Bathurst picks up a freebie its good for the league and its usually a team at the bottom. |
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Post by mooseinfo on Jan 20, 2015 22:51:07 GMT -4
I don't see any real advantage to being able to pick 2 extra's euro based on Meier being a 1st rounder honestly, seeing as we can't trade the player we picked anyway. Meier will be back for sure, barring some incredible progress the next few months. We need to plan to have a third euro, but not a fourth imo. To make it clearer, no one really knows how Russell will handle the option of using a pick on a import with the possibility of Ehlers back. It makes sense to at least use the 1st round one and if Meier is a 1st round pick too I think that makes it more likely he takes at least one(could lose 2 imports). Next year should be another better than average pick in the first round. If he got 2 this summer and traded Meier it means next years first cant be used. The 2nd round pick makes sense for Russell only if certain issues are known such as NTC(Meier,Ehlers) or agent of new player is ok with possible waiver issues. In the past he did not want to take someone and basically block an agent from getting what they wanted. I assume burn bridges for the future is what he was looking at. Is that player good enough to pass on a first pick the following year, as he cant be traded. Thus the long shot pick could work for the 2nd only in some cases too. A 19 yr old could work as well since they would be gone or special list to take another next year. |
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