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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Jul 3, 2015 8:07:52 GMT -4
Thought CB would demand three 1st rounders.... They aren't in a great bargaining position. He won't play for them ... so he sits out a year ... and then they get a single 1st rd compensation pick. If they get greedy they get left holding the bag. I can't see SJ wanting to spend that type of price to get him. They are contending and will need their assets for veterans ... not 16 YO rookies. I think Saint John will be looking more at next year rather than this as their real contending year. But Cape Breton will want players off them which will hinder that so they are in a tough position.
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Post by SteveUL on Jul 3, 2015 8:42:16 GMT -4
They aren't in a great bargaining position. He won't play for them ... so he sits out a year ... and then they get a single 1st rd compensation pick. If they get greedy they get left holding the bag. I can't see SJ wanting to spend that type of price to get him. They are contending and will need their assets for veterans ... not 16 YO rookies. I think Saint John will be looking more at next year rather than this as their real contending year. But Cape Breton will want players off them which will hinder that so they are in a tough position. While SJ may be more geared for next year, they will still be competing for the division lead this year ... so I can't see them dealing any veterans to CB this year. CB will be shopping elsewhere for whatever they need.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Jul 3, 2015 9:03:08 GMT -4
It appears that Bowers is only interested in playing with Halifax or Saint John so the trading partners are limited unless a third team jumps in to make it a 3 team deal.The other option is to let him go back in the draft and either Halifax or Saint John can take their chances there.
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Post by mooseinfo on Jul 3, 2015 9:31:46 GMT -4
You're kidding yourself if you don't think Saint John isn't going to go after him. We need to make a move for Bowers. As much as I know this is pointless wish-thinking, it's fun... So here's my imaginary scenario. To Val-d'Or Timo Meier To Halifax 2016 1st VAL Cole Rafuse then To Cape Breton 2016 1st VAL 2017 1st HAL 2016 3nd HAL Kevin Resop To Halifax Shane Bowers 5th 2016 CAP (because why not.) Thought CB would demand three 1st rounders.... Dont see Bowers worth a MacKinnon return, Rather they use assets for 2016 draft. VD 2016 pick already gone to PEI?
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Post by Citris on Jul 3, 2015 9:58:55 GMT -4
Thought CB would demand three 1st rounders.... Dont see Bowers worth a MacKinnon return, Rather they use assets for 2016 draft. VD 2016 pick already gone to PEI?It wasn't sent in the trade for Marcotte or Bibeau, so... I don't think so, but I also don't know.
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Post by nsvees on Jul 3, 2015 10:07:40 GMT -4
Thought CB would demand three 1st rounders.... Dont see Bowers worth a MacKinnon return, Rather they use assets for 2016 draft. VD 2016 pick already gone to PEI? I'd be inclined to go along with this thinking (keeping their assets for the 2016 Draft). Bowers would be a good get, but I think the those assets would be put to better use. Trade Brassard, Meier and Donaghey by the deadline.
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Post by Citris on Jul 3, 2015 10:11:37 GMT -4
I'm all for getting Bowers so long as it doesn't cost us either of our 2016 first rounders (both potential lottery picks), Durandeau or Putintsev. Anything else is on the table.
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Post by statsman18 on Jul 3, 2015 10:12:55 GMT -4
Dont see Bowers worth a MacKinnon return, Rather they use assets for 2016 draft. VD 2016 pick already gone to PEI?It wasn't sent in the trade for Marcotte or Bibeau, so... I don't think so, but I also don't know. It was sent at this years draft for the 5th overall pick.
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Post by statsman18 on Jul 3, 2015 10:29:40 GMT -4
I'm all for getting Bowers so long as it doesn't cost us either of our 2016 first rounders (both potential lottery picks), Durandeau or Putintsev. Anything else is on the table. Then you might as well say your not interested in getting Bowers. If we're in on him Durandeau will have to be apart of the trade. Also CB will want at lest one of our 1st for this years draft. The fact that this years draft has already happened and the picks are already players might hold more value. Halifax has some interesting players that CB might be interested in. They are more of an asset then a player that will help them now. Guys like Lepage and Charlebois might be of use to them so they can flip them for players now.
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Post by Citris on Jul 3, 2015 10:51:31 GMT -4
Then you might as well say your not interested in getting Bowers. If we're in on him Durandeau will have to be apart of the trade. Also CB will want at lest one of our 1st for this years draft. The fact that this years draft has already happened and the picks are already players might hold more value. Halifax has some interesting players that CB might be interested in. They are more of an asset then a player that will help them now. Guys like Lepage and Charlebois might be of use to them so they can flip them for players now. I don't see it that way. Durandeau to CB makes 0 sense. Not only is he unlikely to report to CB, but even if he does he's going to be a 12-13th forward on that team. Yea they can use him as a trade chip, but he'll be on their active roster so he'll be limited to being moved at Christmas. Lepage and Charlebois may play in midget this year, they are good trade chips, and frankly CB needs defensemen going forward. They have a 1995, 4 1996 players on the blueline, next season they will lose at least 2 of those players, likely more. Also thank you, I forgot about the trade for 5th overall.
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Post by Murph on Jul 3, 2015 11:00:09 GMT -4
I'm all for getting Bowers so long as it doesn't cost us either of our 2016 first rounders (both potential lottery picks), Durandeau or Putintsev. Anything else is on the table. Use veterans to get Bowers. The Eagles have a huge hole at center in their top 6. Send Danny Moynihan and Cody Donaghey to Cape Breton. That fills their big hole up front, and Halifax could take Gosselin back who would need to be dropped to make room for DM. Donaghey not only offsets the loss of Gosselin, but upgrades their top 4 which would be very good. If I'm Halifax I don't trade those two for just Bowers and Gosselin but it's decent framework for a trade. It's also the type of deal Saint John can't offer CB, and if the Eagles plan is to contend it might interest them more
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Post by eaglefan62 on Jul 3, 2015 11:14:50 GMT -4
Inteesting framework for a trade.Someone may have mentioned before that the Monyghan brothers might have come to Halifax as a package deal, might this scuttle such trade or could the framework be worked to include both brothers? Interesting thought.
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Post by Murph on Jul 3, 2015 11:18:53 GMT -4
Inteesting framework for a trade.Someone may have mentioned before that the Monyghan brothers might have come to Halifax as a package deal, might this scuttle such trade or could the framework be worked to include both brothers? Interesting thought. If Halifax has no trade protection with respect to the Moynihans I don't ever know of a NTC that lasted until a player was 20. Carnegie never really had a NTC, he just wouldn't have reported anywhere if dealt, would have retired. I remember the condition of Connor reporting was Halifax give a FA invite to Danny. Not sure if any promises beyond that. It's been a couple years and Danny is done after this year regardless. Can't see it being an issue.
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Post by sjc on Jul 3, 2015 11:28:47 GMT -4
Let Bowers go elsewhere, if anything stock up on picks for next years draft. Why waste it when you could possibly get an exceptional status player and possible 2nd first rounder. If you cant get him for players alone leave it be.
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Post by Joe Rogan on Jul 3, 2015 11:44:04 GMT -4
D Moynihan, Donaghey and a 2017 1st would probably be enough to get it done, no?
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