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Post by Citris on Mar 23, 2015 9:08:21 GMT -4
Over age situation next year is going to be interesting.
I'm with yesisaiditfirst: Falkenham has missed so much time... he hasn't developed at all since his 17 year old season. He had a hot start playing with Fortier and Meier this year but hasn't scored in ages. I feel like loyalty will cause him to be on this team, but I think Leblanc and Bent bring more to the table than Falkenham does.
Daniel Moynihan is obviously a lock.
We lack depth and skill up front, especially with the high likelihood Ehlers is gone. Meier and Moynihan will be leaned on heavily for offense. I think Fortier and Crossley are both capable of 15-20 goals next year, we'll need them to step up if we plan on winning many games.
Vince Watt has proven to be a pretty useful player, he'll almost certainly be back next year as well.
I don't know if King or Shewfelt make the team next season. Depending on the crop of rookies they could be pushed out. We have 9 picks in the first 5 rounds and expect a lot of them to be used on forawrds. Not to mention Dachyshyn will likely make the team.
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Post by sjc on Mar 23, 2015 9:13:07 GMT -4
I honestly don't blame him if he does not report here next year. As much as it would suck for the mooseheads and the fans, its better for him.
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Post by sjc on Mar 23, 2015 9:16:18 GMT -4
Bent>Falkenham LeBlanc>Brassard Who's first on your list? Danny,Kelly,Sam.
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Post by Reesor on Mar 23, 2015 9:48:55 GMT -4
Over age situation next year is going to be interesting. I'm with yesisaiditfirst: Falkenham has missed so much time... he hasn't developed at all since his 17 year old season. He had a hot start playing with Fortier and Meier this year but hasn't scored in ages. I feel like loyalty will cause him to be on this team, but I think Leblanc and Bent bring more to the table than Falkenham does. Daniel Moynihan is obviously a lock. We lack depth and skill up front, especially with the high likelihood Ehlers is gone. Meier and Moynihan will be leaned on heavily for offense. I think Fortier and Crossley are both capable of 15-20 goals next year, we'll need them to step up if we plan on winning many games. Vince Watt has proven to be a pretty useful player, he'll almost certainly be back next year as well. I don't know if King or Shewfelt make the team next season. Depending on the crop of rookies they could be pushed out. We have 9 picks in the first 5 rounds and expect a lot of them to be used on forawrds. Not to mention Dachyshyn will likely make the team. I don't think there's any doubt that Falkenham is on the team next year. This is similar to the Trey Lewis situation, with the major difference being that we won't be pulling out all the tricks to make the team as good as possible. I see us rewarding Falkenham with a spot on the team. He is our captain, and from all accounts that I've heard, an amazing young man. He'll be a good captain to help the young guys along. As you mentioned, Danny Moynihan is a lock. I believe it comes down to Brassard. Do we want a 20yo goalie in a rebuilding year? Or do we want to go with Resop, and draft a 16yo goalie high (say early 2nd round) and have him as our backup to bring him along slowly? I vote for the latter, and keep Sam Leblanc as our 3rd 20yo. He's one of the hardest workers on the team, and will probably pop some goals in for us as well.
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Post by Citris on Mar 23, 2015 10:01:35 GMT -4
I think Brassard has trade Value, and yes, Sam Leblanc is a great penalty killer, can play Center... he's such a useful player. With those factors combined I think we see Eric moved at the draft, as much as I like him, he's been a good goalie for us so far. And like you said, we have 2 second rounders, it makes sense to use a pick on a goalie. also, 7th overall is the highest we've picked in a while, I'm excited about that
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 10:02:17 GMT -4
I really don't think you'll have Ehlers back ... He has NHL caliber skills now. They parted ways with Kane and won't likely sign both Stafford and Tlusty maybe one but not both. I thinkit might be a little bit of wishful thinking to have him back but I don't see it happening. Nic Petan will need a year in the AHL so I don't see him getting a spot over Ehlers. "He has NHL caliber skills now" ----- Looks like NHL caliber skills on this team. That does not mean he is actually able to transfer those skills to the next level. I am really deep down hoping he is not back. The Moose are stuck in neutral if he comes back and they are rebuilding anyway. If we knew he was being developed right here and the players around him could take some of the slack off him maybe I would feel different. I do not see Cam trading his rights --- and last thing u want is a player that really does not want to be here (if that is true) Of course there is always the chance but I don't just watch a player to see what skills he has right now I try to determine if I think those skills will translate to the next level whether that be from Midget AAA to QMJHL or from QMJHL to NHL. Obviously it's just my opinion but base don everything I've seen Ehlers is absolutely ready to make the jump to the NHL ... I guess the rest is up to him. The Jets could definitely use his help on offense and I see no reason to believe he wouldn't be an asset for them next season.
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Post by bbhatehab on Mar 23, 2015 16:01:46 GMT -4
I honestly don't blame him if he does not report here next year. As much as it would suck for the mooseheads and the fans, its better for him. Might be a blessing for him not to come back.... Without a doubt he has the skills and is very talented but his constant puck hogging gets old......I'd rather watch a team play......timo played a good team game when Nick was away at camps.....now those two just force plays to each other or keep the puck..... I'm glad to see Gadoury back and Danny really coming into his own as well
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 23, 2015 16:48:30 GMT -4
I honestly don't blame him if he does not report here next year. As much as it would suck for the mooseheads and the fans, its better for him. Might be a blessing for him not to come back.... Without a doubt he has the skills and is very talented but his constant puck hogging gets old......I'd rather watch a team play......timo played a good team game when Nick was away at camps.....now those two just force plays to each other or keep the puck..... I'm glad to see Gadoury back and Danny really coming into his own as well I have been a little scared to say word for word what you just wrote here for fear of the backlash that it might create. I enjoy watching him but so many times it becomes very predictable. They miss more opportunities to make great plays than they dazzle us with because they do not include others in many plays. We had great players other years but they shared the puck better all around...
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Post by nsvees on Mar 23, 2015 18:24:10 GMT -4
If they can get something for Ehlers they should, even if it's conditional picks. I don't think he'll be back with the Moose as sending him back here wouldn't accomplish anything for his development; especially if the team isn't going to be very good. The Jets really want/need him to be ready to take a roster spot with them.
With Brassard, it doesn't make sense to keep a 20 year old goalie on a rebuilding team, but I don't know what the market would be for him. He hasn't been an elite level goalie and has been a no. 1 starter only on and off. He's a good goalie, just not a great one. Resop had his up and downs, but he's a rookie and has shown flashes of being a no. 1 starter. Who you get to be a backup; maybe get a semi "vet" who's comfortable being a backup. You bring in a draftee to be the backup, he needs to play and that won't be here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 8:36:42 GMT -4
People might talk about Ehlers being a puck hog but personally I've seen guys constantly trying to get him the puck ... even if the play isn't there players are trying to force the puck to Ehlers.
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Post by bbhatehab on Mar 24, 2015 9:18:49 GMT -4
People might talk about Ehlers being a puck hog but personally I've seen guys constantly trying to get him the puck ... even if the play isn't there players are trying to force the puck to Ehlers. I agree with you.....but there lies the problem Guys who would normally play a good team game and make better choices are getting sucked into the Eurovision....it's not healthy for anyone's game
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 13, 2015 10:02:56 GMT -4
I missed the first round because I was gone on vacation. But by the looks of how it went and the start of this round I have to ask if everyone still thinks this team is going to be that bad next year? Yes Ehlers is a huge part of it and more then likely won't be back, but the team defence and stellar goaltend is what's giving them the chance to win every game.
I still think that there is a strong chance Ehlers is back next year. I've been say all along if Cheveldayoff has the GM job he would be the only one to send him back. Now that the Jets are in the playoffs I think his job is pretty safe. Here the thing though that make me question the teams plans though. For those who watched the game Friday on eastlink would have seen the interview with Cam in the intermission. He said he went to Europe to scout and is think about going again for the under 18s. With the rule what it is and they will have an alright pick I think they will pick another euro this year any way.
The talk about keeping Sam and Bent is just crazy. I don't get the huge love for Sam. His Faceoff percentage is under 50%, he has a career 23pts, and is always inguried. Bent I get why fans love him, but he isn't a good 20 to keep. The talk about Brassard being traded all ready I think has to be changed. Not saying he won't be but his value has had to have gone up with his play in the playoffs so far. If I were to bet though I would say the 3 20s are Moynihan, Falkinham, and Brassard.
My interest is the draft itself. I have a feeling Cam might make some noise this draft. If that Quebec kid is allowed to play and SJ has said they will take him I think ABs 2nd overall pick might be in play. Bowers being the home town kid and all make a lot of sense. Just throwing that out there. Also as it stand right now we have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds makes things exciting too.
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Post by Reesor on Apr 13, 2015 10:14:49 GMT -4
I missed the first round because I was gone on vacation. But by the looks of how it went and the start of this round I have to ask if everyone still thinks this team is going to be that bad next year? Yes Ehlers is a huge part of it and more then likely won't be back, but the team defence and stellar goaltend is what's giving them the chance to win every game. I still think that there is a strong chance Ehlers is back next year. I've been say all along if Cheveldayoff has the GM job he would be the only one to send him back. Now that the Jets are in the playoffs I think his job is pretty safe. Here the thing though that make me question the teams plans though. For those who watched the game Friday on eastlink would have seen the interview with Cam in the intermission. He said he went to Europe to scout and is think about going again for the under 18s. With the rule what it is and they will have an alright pick I think they will pick another euro this year any way. The talk about keeping Sam and Bent is just crazy. I don't get the huge love for Sam. His Faceoff percentage is under 50%, he has a career 23pts, and is always inguried. Bent I get why fans love him, but he isn't a good 20 to keep. The talk about Brassard being traded all ready I think has to be changed. Not saying he won't be but his value has had to have gone up with his play in the playoffs so far. If I were to bet though I would say the 3 20s are Moynihan, Falkinham, and Brassard. My interest is the draft itself. I have a feeling Cam might make some noise this draft. If that Quebec kid is allowed to play and SJ has said they will take him I think ABs 2nd overall pick might be in play. Bowers being the home town kid and all make a lot of sense. Just throwing that out there. Also as it stand right now we have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds makes things exciting too. I've been saying all along that I don't expect a tank job next year. However as you eluded to, I have said that I don't think Brassard will be one of our 20s next year. If we get Ehlers back, I really don't believe we'll be any worse next season. And Brassard is playing/has played himself into a spot on our team next year. I saw no reason to keep a 20yo goalie on a rebuilding team. But if there's a chance we can have one last hurrah before full-blown rebuild mode, we'll keep Brassard. If we were to get an amazing trade offer for Brassard, then we'd think about keeping a Bent or a Leblanc as a 20. Personal preference would be Leblanc just because of how hard he works.
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 13, 2015 12:02:08 GMT -4
I missed the first round because I was gone on vacation. But by the looks of how it went and the start of this round I have to ask if everyone still thinks this team is going to be that bad next year? Yes Ehlers is a huge part of it and more then likely won't be back, but the team defence and stellar goaltend is what's giving them the chance to win every game. I still think that there is a strong chance Ehlers is back next year. I've been say all along if Cheveldayoff has the GM job he would be the only one to send him back. Now that the Jets are in the playoffs I think his job is pretty safe. Here the thing though that make me question the teams plans though. For those who watched the game Friday on eastlink would have seen the interview with Cam in the intermission. He said he went to Europe to scout and is think about going again for the under 18s. With the rule what it is and they will have an alright pick I think they will pick another euro this year any way. The talk about keeping Sam and Bent is just crazy. I don't get the huge love for Sam. His Faceoff percentage is under 50%, he has a career 23pts, and is always inguried. Bent I get why fans love him, but he isn't a good 20 to keep. The talk about Brassard being traded all ready I think has to be changed. Not saying he won't be but his value has had to have gone up with his play in the playoffs so far. If I were to bet though I would say the 3 20s are Moynihan, Falkinham, and Brassard. My interest is the draft itself. I have a feeling Cam might make some noise this draft. If that Quebec kid is allowed to play and SJ has said they will take him I think ABs 2nd overall pick might be in play. Bowers being the home town kid and all make a lot of sense. Just throwing that out there. Also as it stand right now we have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds makes things exciting too. Don't like the idea of trading up for Bowers just because home town. That would likely cost the 7th overall plus other picks. www.hockeyprospect.com/qmjhl-draft-rankings-march-2015/When you look what could be had at 7th I don't think you can say Bowers would be worth the cost of the upgrade. If Bathurst valued someone lower, Bowers value would be boosted by other teams in the mix. Couple Goalies there that could have value equal to Bowers minus the pick/s.
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Post by nsvees on Apr 13, 2015 12:56:50 GMT -4
I don't think Ehlers has much else to prove by playing in Major Junior. Send him back here would likely stunt his development. I would think the Jets would give him every opportunity to make their team out of training camp. The Jets don't have any dymanic offensive skill players, so he'd give them an element they don't really have and make their top line forwards better. If by some chance he is sent back, I still think the Moose should trade him and help the rebuild.
As for Brassard, his market value will never be better than it is now, so if they work out a deal for him (if they haven't already), I'd be for it. Moynihan is the only upcoming 20 year old I'd keep.
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