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Post by topnet on Apr 12, 2015 21:42:33 GMT -4
When u find the video of the cross-check on Ehlers they called 4 minutes that easily could have been a 5 minute I will help u mail these to the league. I wonder who would be missed by his team more? Johnson or Bent? P.S. note the interference call on Malatesta the ref missed should have been coincidentals I know what you mean about the Ehlers hit. I heard they had called 911 before he floated to the ice. Can barely believe he had feeling in his leg after that hit. The kid must be superman, didn't miss a shift. Not taking anything away from his skill set and talent. Just that he drops quicker then a 2 dollar "who...." (well it rhymes with door)
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Post by novicefan on Apr 13, 2015 8:09:29 GMT -4
When u find the video of the cross-check on Ehlers they called 4 minutes that easily could have been a 5 minute I will help u mail these to the league. I wonder who would be missed by his team more? Johnson or Bent? P.S. note the interference call on Malatesta the ref missed should have been coincidentals I know what you mean about the Ehlers hit. I heard they had called 911 before he floated to the ice. Can barely believe he had feeling in his leg after that hit. The kid must be superman, didn't miss a shift. Not taking anything away from his skill set and talent. Just that he drops quicker then a 2 dollar "who...." (well it rhymes with door) Hatin on Moose's top players don't make your top players any better ... just sayin'
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 13, 2015 8:58:44 GMT -4
When u find the video of the cross-check on Ehlers they called 4 minutes that easily could have been a 5 minute I will help u mail these to the league. I wonder who would be missed by his team more? Johnson or Bent? P.S. note the interference call on Malatesta the ref missed should have been coincidentals I know what you mean about the Ehlers hit. I heard they had called 911 before he floated to the ice. Can barely believe he had feeling in his leg after that hit. The kid must be superman, didn't miss a shift. Not taking anything away from his skill set and talent. Just that he drops quicker then a 2 dollar "who...." (well it rhymes with door) But he did miss a shift. Because the Moosehead trainer came out on the ice, he had to go off. He skated very slowly to the bench ... went directly to the dressing room behind the Moose bench (which I expect is the "quiet room"). He was in there about three minutes (real time ... not score clock time). I sit directly across the ice from the Moose bench and was watching to see if he was coming out for the PP ... because I thought his acting job was quite poor. Sure enough ... the door opens and he comes out ... walking much quicker than when he went in. He doesn't look at anybody, not even the Coach ... just walks right to the gate nearest to the Cats bench, puts his leg up over the boards, and waited about 10 seconds for somebody to come off so he could go on. And then he went on as if nothing had happened. The Coach never came over to him and asked "are you good to go" ... and he never looked at or said anything to the Coach ... just walked to the boards like he was the king and put his leg over the boards (looked more like Capt. Morgan actually) expecting the low life that was taking his spot on the PP to get off the ice. That arrogance made me laugh. The hit was a penalty and deserved a minor ... it was a cross-check, or from behind, or boarding; take your pick. The 4:00 mins came from his embellishing after the hit. He embellished because he was alone in the zone at that moment and had two Cat defenders around him (maybe 3) and his path was blocked ... so he felt the contact on his back and dove into the boards. I don't have a problem with that really ... you do what you can to win ... and every player in the game will embellish more than once in their career ... our guys do it also. I don't have a problem with a player that dives either. While there was a dive here, there was also a cross-check that precipitated the dive. I have a bigger problem with the Refs that fall for it night after night. The stupidest part of the whole thing was Burke's blatant hit from behind that put us 2 men down. It looked like it was on purpose ... couldn't understand it. What I see is the Wildcats not managing their emotions very well. Johnson's cross-check was just that ... he probably doesn't do that at all in that situation if it was Ryan Falkenham. They were very good managing their emotions vs a very greasy Chicoutimi team. Halifax is not a dirty team ... they play hard ... Bent is greasy ... but for the most part as a team they play the game fairly well disciplined. The Cats are getting away from their typical game plan because things are not going as planned. Mainly because every time the Moose shoot the puck it feels like it is going in ... and that is a discomfort they have not had to deal with this year. Dubeau has not been himself ... and even though he had poor stretches this year ... he was never this poor. The Dmen are struggling and we have dealt with that all year ... but he has bailed them out so often in the past. This is different and way out of the comfort zone of the team. Full marks to Halifax ... they capitalize on their chances ... they work hard in both ends ... and they play a good disciplined game.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 13, 2015 9:42:59 GMT -4
Ehlers does sell calls. If he earned that extra 2 minutes then thats more power to him.
It could as easily backfired if the wrong ref Could have saw it as a dive. Perhaps he is getting better at it. Almost everyone in Moose country knows he is not completely innocent there. However the refs we could assume would do the same thing for Garland if he lay lifeless like that.
The refs let quite a few things go in those games and the Wildcats still had significantly more PP time which they never converted into goals.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 13, 2015 10:10:26 GMT -4
Ehlers does sell calls. If he earned that extra 2 minutes then thats more power to him. It could as easily backfired if the wrong ref Could have saw it as a dive. Perhaps he is getting better at it. Almost everyone in Moose country knows he is not completely innocent there. However the refs we could assume would do the same thing for Garland if he lay lifeless like that. The refs let quite a few things go in those games and the Wildcats still had significantly more PP time which they never converted into goals. Garland actually gets right up because he doesn't want to leave the ice for the PP. He waves off the trainer often. I'm not complaining about the PP time ... and our PP is operating poorly since the beginning of the playoffs ... poorer than we are use to anyway.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 13, 2015 10:17:44 GMT -4
SteveULThe coach in me wants to type a few things that the Wildcats should try different. But I just can't. The Cats coaches must know but the last thing I will do now is make suggestions in case they follow our advice and try some of them... U seem to have a good grasp on what the Cats are doing. What did they do different the last week of the season besides rest some guys who were hurt...there is something that changed and it affected their chemistry I think...anything u spotted?
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Post by Reesor on Apr 13, 2015 10:34:53 GMT -4
SteveULThe coach in me wants to type a few things that the Wildcats should try different. But I just can't. The Cats coaches must know but the last thing I will do now is make suggestions in case they follow our advice and try some of them... That's why I don't mind mentioning it. There's no chance anyone mistakes me as being a coach.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 10:42:24 GMT -4
It disgusts me the number of people who think there is nothing wrong with diving or embellishing to get a call. It happens way too often and is ruining a great sport.
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Post by npsh on Apr 13, 2015 10:45:39 GMT -4
Coach or not, whatever. Resign ourselves that Cats are not going beyond second round. Halifax is the sleeper team who play well with a disciplined game. Taking down the second place league team will add a little jump to their game next round. I look for Halifax to be in the finals for the cup.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 13, 2015 10:51:45 GMT -4
It disgusts me the number of people who think there is nothing wrong with diving or embellishing to get a call. It happens way too often and is ruining a great sport. Oh I'd like to see everybody stop doing it. But it happens at all levels and by many more players than just those that have the reputation for doing it. I appreciate when the refs call somebody for diving ... and I'd like to see a diving call come with a 2:00 and a 10:00 misc. That might make them rethink it a little. Calling the dive and the hook that precipitated the dive doesn't do anything to make the embellisher rethink what he is doing.
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Post by Gman on Apr 13, 2015 11:12:43 GMT -4
It disgusts me the number of people who think there is nothing wrong with diving or embellishing to get a call. It happens way too often and is ruining a great sport. You do realize Garland does the same thing as Ehlers right? I have not watched a game against the Cats in Halifax where he has not tried to sell a call at least once. Does it disgust you when he does it as well? Ehlers is not an angel by any stretch, but the refs in this league are just so damn inconsistent it makes it hard for skilled players to know when they've been fouled and when they haven't. Sometimes I guess they feel the need to try to take it into their own hands. If the refs would call the obvious penalties instead of "letting them play" there would be far less embellishment. I didn't see the play you guys are referring to though. Why did it go from a 2 min to a 4? Was there blood?
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 13, 2015 11:17:43 GMT -4
I don't care about diving as much when it gets a Powerplay but when it causes you to lose one of your captains for a game or two and then Bent slams Malatesta's head in the boards and gets nothing.
Look at the Bent clip again, look where his arms are then try to tell me that wasn't more malicious than Johnson's little shove.
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Post by lirette on Apr 13, 2015 11:36:37 GMT -4
It disgusts me the number of people who think there is nothing wrong with diving or embellishing to get a call. It happens way too often and is ruining a great sport. You do realize Garland does the same thing as Ehlers right? I have not watched a game against the Cats in Halifax where he has not tried to sell a call at least once. Does it disgust you when he does it as well? Ehlers is not an angel by any stretch, but the refs in this league are just so damn inconsistent it makes it hard for skilled players to know when they've been fouled and when they haven't. Sometimes I guess they feel the need to try to take it into their own hands. If the refs would call the obvious penalties instead of "letting them play" there would be far less embellishment. I didn't see the play you guys are referring to though. Why did it go from a 2 min to a 4? Was there blood? The 4 min penalty appears to be some sort of new cop out the refs are using to avoid giving 5 and a game for the playoffs. That was the second game in a row we've seen that call made.
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Post by gtsoc on Apr 13, 2015 11:37:51 GMT -4
Johnson suspended for 2 games
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 13, 2015 11:39:56 GMT -4
@coolentqn: #Wildcats captain Stephen Johnson suspended 2 games for his hit on Nikolaj Ehlers. #CatsvsHerd #QMJHL #Mooseheads #Halifax
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