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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 20, 2015 8:00:13 GMT -4
Blaming Garland for "selfish penalties"? Really? All you need to know is that he got a penalty for getting DDTed by Hardie here. And then later got one because Ehlers is a crying/diving piece of shit. You guys are unreal. Barbeshev and Garland were doing their best Elvis Stojko impressions, going down on slight touches last night then looking right to the ref. They are lucky they didn't get called for diving a few times, and there were a few plays in game 5 that were clearly embellishments by Wildcats too, but don't let that stop you from calling our guys pieces of shit. The slash at the end was likely called because the game was getting chippy, and it was directly in front of the ref. Hard to pretend you didn't see that as a ref, who had let a lot go to that point. It had little impact on the game, it was probably done to start curbing the hacks and slashed that were starting up at that point. Ehlers has hardly done a thing this series to draw penalties, he has been fighting through pretty much everything. You are just looking for some excuse as to why this is at game 7 now. The (3-4?) penalties draw by Ehlers has been a non-factor in this series - there actually should be more called. Show the image a second or two before Hardie's DDT. He pitchforks him through the legs with his stick (which you can still see), that was the call for slashing. But yes, show them as they went to the ice and complain about the penalty call. Can you read? I'm defending Garland to someone who blamed Garland for taking 2 "selfish penalties". Stop being so sensitive and feeling you gotta run to defend your pretty boy every time someone mentions him. If you have trouble keeping up with the conversation, use your index finger to follow along. You might get smudges on your screen but just head over to Staples to buy some wipes.
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Post by lirette on Apr 20, 2015 8:12:50 GMT -4
Blaming Garland for "selfish penalties"? Really? All you need to know is that he got a penalty for getting DDTed by Hardie here. And then later got one because Ehlers is a crying/diving piece of shit. You guys are unreal. Barbeshev and Garland were doing their best Elvis Stojko impressions, going down on slight touches last night then looking right to the ref. They are lucky they didn't get called for diving a few times, and there were a few plays in game 5 that were clearly embellishments by Wildcats too, but don't let that stop you from calling our guys pieces of shit. The slash at the end was likely called because the game was getting chippy, and it was directly in front of the ref. Hard to pretend you didn't see that as a ref, who had let a lot go to that point. It had little impact on the game, it was probably done to start curbing the hacks and slashed that were starting up at that point. Ehlers has hardly done a thing this series to draw penalties, he has been fighting through pretty much everything. You are just looking for some excuse as to why this is at game 7 now. The (3-4?) penalties draw by Ehlers has been a non-factor in this series - there actually should be more called. Show the image a second or two before Hardie's DDT. He pitchforks him through the legs with his stick (which you can still see), that was the call for slashing. But yes, show them as they went to the ice and complain about the penalty call. I actually haven't seen one person here saying they lost the game because of Ehlers embellishing. Cats fans are just tired of seeing it. We can comment on the game without it being an excuse. The cats lost the game and deserved to lose because they came out flat and got outplayed the first 30 minutes. Its unfortunate the guy who is probably the best player in the Q has to have that as part of his game. You'll notice Meier who is another thorn in the cats side and a top 5 player in the Q gets no hate around here or in the rink.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Apr 20, 2015 8:19:11 GMT -4
You guys are unreal. Barbeshev and Garland were doing their best Elvis Stojko impressions, going down on slight touches last night then looking right to the ref. They are lucky they didn't get called for diving a few times, and there were a few plays in game 5 that were clearly embellishments by Wildcats too, but don't let that stop you from calling our guys pieces of shit. The slash at the end was likely called because the game was getting chippy, and it was directly in front of the ref. Hard to pretend you didn't see that as a ref, who had let a lot go to that point. It had little impact on the game, it was probably done to start curbing the hacks and slashed that were starting up at that point. Ehlers has hardly done a thing this series to draw penalties, he has been fighting through pretty much everything. You are just looking for some excuse as to why this is at game 7 now. The (3-4?) penalties draw by Ehlers has been a non-factor in this series - there actually should be more called. Show the image a second or two before Hardie's DDT. He pitchforks him through the legs with his stick (which you can still see), that was the call for slashing. But yes, show them as they went to the ice and complain about the penalty call. I actually haven't seen one person here saying they lost the game because of Ehlers embellishing. Cats fans are just tired of seeing it. We can comment on the game without it being an excuse. The cats lost the game and deserved to lose because they came out flat and got outplayed the first 30 minutes. Its unfortunate the guy who is probably the best player in the Q has to have that as part of his game. You'll notice Meier who is another thorn in the cats side and a top 5 player in the Q gets no hate around here or in the rink. Not this game, its just no matter how clean/fair a game is or how much of a non-effect PP's draw by Ehlers is, you guys are constantly whining about it. They could call a ton more penalties on plays involving Ehlers but they haven't, and from what I have seen haven't called anything involving him that was not deserved. And you guys have had most of the PPs! Throw in the Barb/Garland acting here and there too, and you guys really have little to complain about with officiating or embellishing in the series, but you have multiple posters doing it every game... that is my point.
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Post by lirette on Apr 20, 2015 8:40:26 GMT -4
I actually haven't seen one person here saying they lost the game because of Ehlers embellishing. Cats fans are just tired of seeing it. We can comment on the game without it being an excuse. The cats lost the game and deserved to lose because they came out flat and got outplayed the first 30 minutes. Its unfortunate the guy who is probably the best player in the Q has to have that as part of his game. You'll notice Meier who is another thorn in the cats side and a top 5 player in the Q gets no hate around here or in the rink. Not this game, its just no matter how clean/fair a game is or how much of a non-effect PP's draw by Ehlers is, you guys are constantly whining about it. They could call a ton more penalties on plays involving Ehlers but they haven't, and from what I have seen haven't called anything involving him that was not deserved. And you guys have had most of the PPs! Throw in the Barb/Garland acting here and there too, and you guys really have little to complain about with officiating or embellishing in the series, but you have multiple posters doing it every game... that is my point. You are arguing with the wrong person then. Refs have nothing to do with where this series is at. The only reason this started was because Garlands lovetap that must have Ehlers still icing his wrist was considered "selfish" .
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 20, 2015 9:33:16 GMT -4
Its the same every year, playoffs are called different. I have been frustrated with refs in playoffs before but teams have to ignore it and play on harder. Refs key on certain types of calls during different times of the year and are often directed to do so by their supervisor. You even see it different times in the game.
Blame the calls on the players because the refs are not the ones changing for the players.
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Post by bois on Apr 20, 2015 10:07:31 GMT -4
Blaming Garland for "selfish penalties"? Really? All you need to know is that he got a penalty for getting DDTed by Hardie here. And then later got one because Ehlers is a crying/diving piece of shit. That's the worst DDT i've ever seen
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Post by catnut on Apr 20, 2015 10:22:42 GMT -4
Blaming Garland for "selfish penalties"? Really? All you need to know is that he got a penalty for getting DDTed by Hardie here. And then later got one because Ehlers is a crying/diving piece of shit. That's the worst DDT i've ever seen Yeah, Jake the Snake would disapprove. Still don't see how a slashing penalty could be given on that play - Hooking maybe. But how Hardie managed to get away without a coincidental minor on that play is mind boggling. Definitely not "selfish" penalties. On the second penalty, the way Ehlers was Kovalev-ing it, you'd think he had been Subban-ed. On the TSN highlights of the Montreal-Ottawa game, Karlsson got 2 similar taps on the same play without stopping.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 20, 2015 10:39:47 GMT -4
Garland is clearly holding Hardie's stick. With what his chin?. no ... I believe the butt end of Hardie's stick is wedged into Garland's mouth ... but Garland bit down so they had no choice but to make the call.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Apr 20, 2015 10:50:31 GMT -4
That's the worst DDT i've ever seen Yeah, Jake the Snake would disapprove. Still don't see how a slashing penalty could be given on that play - Hooking maybe. But how Hardie managed to get away without a coincidental minor on that play is mind boggling. Definitely not "selfish" penalties. On the second penalty, the way Ehlers was Kovalev-ing it, you'd think he had been Subban-ed. On the TSN highlights of the Montreal-Ottawa game, Karlsson got 2 similar taps on the same play without stopping. I think they usually call it slashing when someone drives their stick between the legs like that (hold the "no, that's sex" jokes ). You could call it spearing too I suppose. Not much else it can be. You could have called Hardie for holding I suppose as they fell to the ice, but it was more a reaction to Garland's action. I don't think Garland's calls were "selfish" exactly... they were just normal frustration penalties, as the game was basically out of hand.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 20, 2015 11:10:12 GMT -4
Its the same every year, playoffs are called different. I have been frustrated with refs in playoffs before but teams have to ignore it and play on harder. Refs key on certain types of calls during different times of the year and are often directed to do so by their supervisor. You even see it different times in the game. Blame the calls on the players because the refs are not the ones changing for the players. Sure ... I have no problem with letting stuff go. But let it go both ways. Yesterday McEwan took an interference penalty for a pick at the blue line ... legitimate call even though it looked accidental ... doesn't matter ... it affected the play. But after that I counted 3 picks that Moose players did that went uncalled ... and I wasn't counting before that moment. Garland gives Ehlers a one handed slash and gets called ... by the rules it is a slash ... no problem. But that type of contact happens 50 times a game by both teams as a puck carrier moves up ice ... but his one gets called. I doubt Moynihan will be suspended for tonight's game ... he cross-checked Beaton head first into the boards from behind when the fracas with Ehlers started up ... he got a 2:00 penalty for it, but it wasn't a hockey play at that moment ... it was an attempt to injure. They'll somehow manage to keep Bent in the game too tomorrow night ... even though he apparently left the bench to join that same scrum. That type of penalty usually comes with more than just a single game suspension. The Reffing is just very one sided ... we get called for just about everything we do ... Halifax gets called for every 6th infraction. Trying to play through the garbage inhibits your ability to play the game to your ability ... especially when the other team doesn't have to play through it.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 20, 2015 11:12:51 GMT -4
Yeah, Jake the Snake would disapprove. Still don't see how a slashing penalty could be given on that play - Hooking maybe. But how Hardie managed to get away without a coincidental minor on that play is mind boggling. Definitely not "selfish" penalties. On the second penalty, the way Ehlers was Kovalev-ing it, you'd think he had been Subban-ed. On the TSN highlights of the Montreal-Ottawa game, Karlsson got 2 similar taps on the same play without stopping. I think they usually call it slashing when someone drives their stick between the legs like that (hold the "no, that's sex" jokes ). You could call it spearing too I suppose. Not much else it can be. You could have called Hardie for holding I suppose as they fell to the ice, but it was more a reaction to Garland's action. I don't think Garland's calls were "selfish" exactly... they were just normal frustration penalties, as the game was basically out of hand. I watched the ref come over to the scorers box and make the interference signal on this penalty as Garland complained the whole way. I am not sure why they announced it as slashing...I think the scorer wrote it down wrong or Ian Robinson made it up. As a rule of thumb the refs should call penalties when the puck is not present (like that one) as interference. I guess it is possible the refs made the interference "x" signal and if he does it fast it may look like a slash. Normallay they make the slash signal on their arm with it out from their body though.
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Post by Conky on Apr 20, 2015 11:13:31 GMT -4
Blaming Garland for "selfish penalties"? Really? All you need to know is that he got a penalty for getting DDTed by Hardie here. And then later got one because Ehlers is a crying/diving piece of shit. go
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Post by catnut on Apr 20, 2015 11:20:28 GMT -4
Blaming Garland for "selfish penalties"? Really? All you need to know is that he got a penalty for getting DDTed by Hardie here. And then later got one because Ehlers is a crying/diving piece of shit. go Like everything else you post, it wasn't funny the first time, imagine now after I don't know how many times.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 20, 2015 11:44:35 GMT -4
That was a pathetic effort by the Cats, the refs have not been great, no doubt but going down 6-0 to an inferior team is inexcusable...
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Post by novicefan on Apr 20, 2015 12:14:43 GMT -4
That was a pathetic effort by the Cats, the refs have not been great, no doubt but going down 6-0 to an inferior team is inexcusable... "Inferior team"? I assume the only reason you are calling Mooseheads inferior is based solely on 2 vs 12 right?
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