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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 22, 2015 13:36:58 GMT -4
...and I clarified it with my subsequent post. maybe you should use your dictionary on that one...try with "current" and "group". subsequent [suhb-si-kwuh nt] Spell Syllables Examples Word Origin adjective 1. occurring or coming later or after (often followed by to): subsequent events; Subsequent to their arrival in Chicago, they bought a new car. 2. following in order or succession; succeeding: Your "subsequent" post made no mention of your lack of comprehension of the word "history". I just put players where their points had them, both teams have players listed bottom 6 that could play top 2 lines and vice versa. I didn't list them by lines. You're not worth my time...read the thread or go for a long walk on a short pier.
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Post by seαωo|f on Apr 22, 2015 14:01:13 GMT -4
Goalie battle should be interesting. Both veterans; both can win a game all by themselves or lose a game all by themselves.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Apr 22, 2015 14:43:24 GMT -4
I don't have much in the way of expectations for this series. If you look at this Cats team strictly on paper it's damn impressive what they've accomplished so far this season. Heading into the playoffs I was hoping for a nice playoff run where the Cats at least make it to the third round and get some excitement going again, which has certainly been lacking for a while.
I think Quebec wins in 5 or 6 games, but this team has surprised me all season long and I hope they continue to do so. The Cats certainly have a shot though depending on which Remparts team decides to show up.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 22, 2015 14:49:07 GMT -4
I don't have much in the way of expectations for this series. If you look at this Cats team strictly on paper it's damn impressive what they've accomplished so far this season. Heading into the playoffs I was hoping for a nice playoff run where the Cats at least make it to the third round and get some excitement going again, which has certainly been lacking for a while. I think Quebec wins in 5 or 6 games, but this team has surprised me all season long and I hope they continue to do so. The Cats certainly have a shot though depending on which Remparts team decides to show up. If the Remparts play at 75-80%, which is what they did most of the year before round 2 and putting away PEI in 4, then the Cats have a chance...but not playing like they did vs Halifax(at 75-80% themselves)...Cats at 75-80% vs Quebec at 75-80%, Quebec in 5. The way the Cats played was good enough to beat Halifax and maybe PEI but would not have beat Gatineau Rimouski Quebec BC or VD.
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Post by handsome on Apr 22, 2015 14:50:19 GMT -4
Tale of the tape: Goaltending Dubeau vs Fucale Dubeau has a history of playoff struggles while Fucale is known as a clutch goalie. Fucale had a rough start with Quebec but played great vs PEI…4 wins 2.10 GAA 118/127 .929% Dubeau was pretty bad vs Halifax 4.29 GAA .827% Edge: Quebec Defense Sweeney-Johnson –Tassi-Malatesta-Klebankyj-Holwell Vs Brouillard-Graves-Murphy-Maheux-MacDougall-Dutra/Lovell Top 2 are pretty even, Quebec is a bit better #3-4 and Moncton better 5-6. You could argue a slight edge on either side. Edge:Overall pretty even Forwards Top 6 Erne-Timashov-Verrier-Etchegarry-Gauthier-Duclair Vs Garland-Barbashev-Johnson-Burke-Bower-Beaton Bottom 6 Tkachev-Roy-Carozza-Cuomo-Garneau-Turcotte-Moody vs Cormier-Askew-MacEwen-Tibbo-Jacob-Leger-Smith This is where Quebec could dominate, they have 3 good scoring lines if their guys show up to play while Moncton has 1 and a half. If Quebec pays at a high tempo and pushes the pace, the series could be over pretty quick. If they don’t Moncton has grinders to slow things down. Edge:Quebec Coaching: Rumble has gotten more out of this taem than most expected, Quebec has underachieved for their skill level overall. Rumble has a lot more experience than Boucher. Edge: Moncton Intagibles: Moncton has home ice but is coming off a 7 game series, Quebec only played 4. Quebec has a louder building. Neither team have a history of great playoffs. Quebec has a spot in the Memorial Cup already so they may be less hungry/desperate. Edge: Even Overall, a pretty clear edge to Quebec, but the series is played on ice, not on paper. Quebec in 5 Defense: How can you tell who has the advantage when you can't even tell the correct lineup! It's Sweeney-tassi Johnston-holwell Malatesta-klebanskyj we have an edge on them!
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Post by sc74 on Apr 22, 2015 16:58:09 GMT -4
Quebec's lineup with their production so far:
Timashov - Etchegary - Erne (15 goals and 23 assists) Gauthier - Roy - Duclair (11 goals and 14 assists) Tkachev - Carozza - Verrier (10 goals and 14 assists) Moody - Garneau - Turcotte (nothing)
Graves - Maheux (5 goals and 5 assists) Brouillard - Murphy (4 goals and 14 assists) MacDougall - Dutra (1 goal and 1 assist)
Fucale Booth
Cuomo is out with a lower body injury.
Rehill, Sutton, Lovell, Fiori and Thibodeau are the scratches.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 17:03:52 GMT -4
It will be interesting to see how Tkachev plays...will he be extra motivated against Moncton?
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 22, 2015 17:15:23 GMT -4
Really! You think the rest was the whole reason this series went 7. lol I would say any team would rather have a break than back to back game 7s but I am not a Moncton fan like you or are you just sucking up? Moncton played awful the first two games. Halifax was the more tired team. The reason it went 7 was Moncton coughed up the first two games. Dubeau looked out of focus and their PP those games was just passing the puck around. They adjusted it for game 3. All in all Rumble did a great coaching job to save their season. So I stand by my assertion...the extra rest took the edge off Moncton's game - Halifax should not have had that fast start in the series. Its an opinion, no way to prove one way or the other. Thing is saying the coach did a great job would usually mean you are prepared from the start. Adjusting the PP is a coach thing as well, good he adjusted it but that would not have to do with not being sharp unless it was the same setup but they became better at executing it. That would give no credit to Moose coach for being prepared. It also would not account for how long it took them to get better. 2x 4 to 3 scores and a 6th game loss were not the start of the series. To add those games were with injuries. I know people say thats part of the game but so is rest and no rest. If you can say they are not sharp what do you say for injuries or if they had no rest. They lost because of that too. So if Quebec loses the first game(s) the excuse is already there, has nothing to do with Moncton playing better even if it goes 7 games. No satisfaction in that result.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 22, 2015 22:29:19 GMT -4
Tale of the tape: Goaltending Dubeau vs Fucale Dubeau has a history of playoff struggles while Fucale is known as a clutch goalie. Fucale had a rough start with Quebec but played great vs PEI…4 wins 2.10 GAA 118/127 .929% Dubeau was pretty bad vs Halifax 4.29 GAA .827% Edge: Quebec Defense Sweeney-Johnson –Tassi-Malatesta-Klebankyj-Holwell Vs Brouillard-Graves-Murphy-Maheux-MacDougall-Dutra/Lovell Top 2 are pretty even, Quebec is a bit better #3-4 and Moncton better 5-6. You could argue a slight edge on either side. Edge:Overall pretty even Forwards Top 6 Erne-Timashov-Verrier-Etchegarry-Gauthier-Duclair Vs Garland-Barbashev-Johnson-Burke-Bower-Beaton Bottom 6 Tkachev-Roy-Carozza-Cuomo-Garneau-Turcotte-Moody vs Cormier-Askew-MacEwen-Tibbo-Jacob-Leger-Smith This is where Quebec could dominate, they have 3 good scoring lines if their guys show up to play while Moncton has 1 and a half. If Quebec pays at a high tempo and pushes the pace, the series could be over pretty quick. If they don’t Moncton has grinders to slow things down. Edge:Quebec Coaching: Rumble has gotten more out of this taem than most expected, Quebec has underachieved for their skill level overall. Rumble has a lot more experience than Boucher. Edge: Moncton Intagibles: Moncton has home ice but is coming off a 7 game series, Quebec only played 4. Quebec has a louder building. Neither team have a history of great playoffs. Quebec has a spot in the Memorial Cup already so they may be less hungry/desperate. Edge: Even Overall, a pretty clear edge to Quebec, but the series is played on ice, not on paper. Quebec in 5 Defense: How can you tell who has the advantage when you can't even tell the correct lineup! It's Sweeney-tassi Johnston-holwell Malatesta-klebanskyj we have an edge on them! If people on here spent as much time posting about hockey in stead of making garbage posts it might be more interesting. Who the fuck cares who plays with whome...it's the same 6 guys I listed...toidi!!!
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Post by handsome on Apr 22, 2015 23:01:04 GMT -4
Defense: How can you tell who has the advantage when you can't even tell the correct lineup! It's Sweeney-tassi Johnston-holwell Malatesta-klebanskyj we have an edge on them! If people on here spent as much time posting about hockey in stead of making garbage posts it might be more interesting. Who the fuck cares who plays with whome...it's the same 6 guys I listed...toidi!!! How can you say top 2 are even but their #3-4 are better?? And about the offence: it's not about having 3 scoring lines! A playoff team is a team that has role players! That means your 1st line brings offence (Barbashev, garland and Johnson or macewen)! 2nd line is mostly a shut down line that can score (burke's line with zilbert/Johnson and smith)! 3rd line is an energy line that brings offence and is responsible defensively (askew, Beaton and zilbert/Johnson)! 4th line is a line that plays tough and brings energy and can create a spark (Cormier, bower, Tibbo)! moncton has everything you need to win a series against a "superstar" team that won't pay the price defensively.. I do agree that Quebec might have better individuals, but for example, I wouldn't take tkachev instead of anyone on Moncton's 3rd line.. Hard to believe, but tkachev is playing on their 3rd line.. Who's gonna shut down garland and Barbashev!?? Roy and duclair's line? Probably not.. These guys don't even know what's blocking a shot.. Don't ask them to play defence! what I'm trying to say with that is that maybe they got the big names, but certainly not the kind of team you want when it comes to close games and when it's time to sacrifice yourself to protect the lead or give the 2nd effort..
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Post by sc74 on Apr 22, 2015 23:45:58 GMT -4
If people on here spent as much time posting about hockey in stead of making garbage posts it might be more interesting. Who the fuck cares who plays with whome...it's the same 6 guys I listed...toidi!!! How can you say top 2 are even but their #3-4 are better?? And about the offence: it's not about having 3 scoring lines! A playoff team is a team that has role players! That means your 1st line brings offence (Barbashev, garland and Johnson or macewen)! 2nd line is mostly a shut down line that can score (burke's line with zilbert/Johnson and smith)! 3rd line is an energy line that brings offence and is responsible defensively (askew, Beaton and zilbert/Johnson)! 4th line is a line that plays tough and brings energy and can create a spark (Cormier, bower, Tibbo)! moncton has everything you need to win a series against a "superstar" team that won't pay the price defensively.. I do agree that Quebec might have better individuals, but for example, I wouldn't take tkachev instead of anyone on Moncton's 3rd line.. Hard to believe, but tkachev is playing on their 3rd line.. Who's gonna shut down garland and Barbashev!?? Roy and duclair's line? Probably not.. These guys don't even know what's blocking a shot.. Don't ask them to play defence! what I'm trying to say with that is that maybe they got the big names, but certainly not the kind of team you want when it comes to close games and when it's time to sacrifice yourself to protect the lead or give the 2nd effort.. You know, he didn't rank Quebec's defense in the right order. But it doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure the Etchegary line will be sent against Barbie/Garland when Quebec will have the last change. Duclair plays on the PK and blocks shots, contrary to what you might think. The main PKers are Erne, Etchegary, Duclair and Carozza. Roy and Verrier are replacements sometimes. Tkachev doesn't play when the game gets close in the 3rd. He's replaced by a grinder like Cuomo, Garneau or Turcotte. Moncton's 3rd line is a +10 combined. Quebec's 3rd line is +19. Quebec has a lot of balanced offense but it's not just about offense. They also have players who can play tough and grind. Charlottetown fans thought Islanders could beat the Remparts physically but the contrary happened. What I think is that the difference in this series will be the special units and goaltending. Both goalies can be good and bad sometimes.
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Post by npsh on Apr 23, 2015 0:27:02 GMT -4
I don't have much in the way of expectations for this series. If you look at this Cats team strictly on paper it's damn impressive what they've accomplished so far this season. Heading into the playoffs I was hoping for a nice playoff run where the Cats at least make it to the third round and get some excitement going again, which has certainly been lacking for a while. I think Quebec wins in 5 or 6 games, but this team has surprised me all season long and I hope they continue to do so. The Cats certainly have a shot though depending on which Remparts team decides to show up. Yes, I think your commentary has merit. First and second (especially second) rounds were a grind for the Cats and I am not convinced we can endure another grind as some think is certainly possible against Quebec. Cats are still hot-wired from Tuesday's final and I see them taking the game tonight but I am not overly optimistic as this round moves forward….and it won't go to a seventh and deciding game.
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Post by bababooey on Apr 23, 2015 2:31:19 GMT -4
and to boot out of all this at least I get to listen the Ray Cloutier call the games for this series. Cause just started listening to the Cats guy recently first time in a long time and man...makes me miss and appreciate the pxp guys we had before...just my rant to add to the ridiculousness that goes on here from time to time....
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Post by juniorcormier16 on Apr 23, 2015 6:45:33 GMT -4
So much depends on which Quebec show up. We have seen they can overwhelm with offensive pressure and 40+ shots, but they are also capable of playing stinkers against worse teams. You guys are probably more like CB than PEI - I expect a series more like the CB series for Quebec. I don't know how long Garland/Barb can keep up their effectiveness with that icetime and those long shifts, especially if they are chasing the Quebec guys around for much of the game. You won't have to worry about an elite top line, but there will be more weapons coming at you, especially from the defense, where Halifax really lacked offensive punch from the blueline. Should be an interesting series with lots of drama. I would guess Quebec in 6. If the same Quebec team shows up that the Islanders played Moncton will be out in 4 games. Quebec is just way to strong when they are firing on all cylinders just the speed factor and they are physical. I thought the Islanders at least would have out played them physically however that was not the case. I was still hoping for a Islanders vs Moncton series that would have been epic.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 23, 2015 7:06:56 GMT -4
If people on here spent as much time posting about hockey in stead of making garbage posts it might be more interesting. Who the fuck cares who plays with whome...it's the same 6 guys I listed...toidi!!! How can you say top 2 are even but their #3-4 are better?? And about the offence: it's not about having 3 scoring lines! A playoff team is a team that has role players! That means your 1st line brings offence (Barbashev, garland and Johnson or macewen)! 2nd line is mostly a shut down line that can score (burke's line with zilbert/Johnson and smith)! 3rd line is an energy line that brings offence and is responsible defensively (askew, Beaton and zilbert/Johnson)! 4th line is a line that plays tough and brings energy and can create a spark (Cormier, bower, Tibbo)! moncton has everything you need to win a series against a "superstar" team that won't pay the price defensively.. I do agree that Quebec might have better individuals, but for example, I wouldn't take tkachev instead of anyone on Moncton's 3rd line.. Hard to believe, but tkachev is playing on their 3rd line.. Who's gonna shut down garland and Barbashev!?? Roy and duclair's line? Probably not.. These guys don't even know what's blocking a shot.. Don't ask them to play defence! what I'm trying to say with that is that maybe they got the big names, but certainly not the kind of team you want when it comes to close games and when it's time to sacrifice yourself to protect the lead or give the 2nd effort.. It's pretty easy... Sweeney-Johnston are pretty even with Graves-Brouillard, however Murphy and Maheux are better than Tassi and Malatesta.
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