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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 22, 2015 19:58:37 GMT -4
Midget Draft coming shortly on June 6 2015. I guess depending on what the Moose management have in mind with the team's direction next season will have a reflection on what they do in this years draft. If the rumoured deal for Brassard is done will the Moosehead's take one of the top ranked goaltenders with the 7th overall pick? With the young defence that we have developed I would like to see the top forward available taken at 7. Or do they go with the BPA. With the extra picks they have do they trade up. Is it worth it? What do u folks think? Top 10 ranked players: www.hockeyprospect.com/qmjhl-draft-rankings-march-2015/ 2015 Draft Picks 1st HAL (to VDO in Murphy trade, re-acquired for 2014 1st HAL) 2nd HAL 2nd BAC (Ciampini trade) 3rd HAL 3rd SHE (Lussier trade) 4th HAL 6th HAL 6th CHI (Lovell trade) 7th HAL 7th BAC (trade for HAL 2014 8th Rd) 8th HAL 9th HAL 10th HAL 11th HAL 12th HAL 13th HAL 14th HAL - 5th HAL (to QUE in Fucale/Murphy trade)
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Post by seαωo|f on Apr 22, 2015 20:25:56 GMT -4
Best bet for the Mooseheads is Teasdale. Taking Baribeau or D'Orio 7th overall doesn't make much sense. They seem committed to developing Resop and they have Martin in the pipeline.
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 22, 2015 21:19:53 GMT -4
Best bet for the Mooseheads is Teasdale. Taking Baribeau or D'Orio 7th overall doesn't make much sense. They seem committed to developing Resop and they have Martin in the pipeline. FA also signed had a few teams interested. Had good season. www.thelaker.ca/sports.asp?id=3065
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 22:35:16 GMT -4
With the 1st Round pick I think they should draft a defenseman either Jocktan Chainey or Antoine Crete-Belzile ... I do think Teasdale would be a good pick too just not sure he'll be there at #7
Wouldn't be surprised to see them snap up a couple Nova Scotia kids in the 2nd Round ... Kynan Berger and Logan O'Neil seem like good picks for where the Mooseheads are picking.
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 23, 2015 7:03:46 GMT -4
With the 1st Round pick I think they should draft a defenseman either Jocktan Chainey or Antoine Crete-Belzile ... I do think Teasdale would be a good pick too just not sure he'll be there at #7 Wouldn't be surprised to see them snap up a couple Nova Scotia kids in the 2nd Round ... Kynan Berger and Logan O'Neil seem like good picks for where the Mooseheads are picking. The question has to be asked. Have you seen the 2 defensemen you named? I only ask because with how this team is set up on the backend I don't see them picking up a Dmen that early, unless he is a defensemen is the same caliber of Green or Girard. I think any defensemen that will be picked by the Moose will be pist to be honest. I do understand the whole pick the best player available talk but at 7 I just don't see Halifax playing that game and going with the best forward they can get there. Like I said they have a huge log jam on the backend, and the majority of them will be 18 or younger next year. Goaltending was already brought up and how their is a small log jam there as well. As for the 2nd picks I fully agree with Buger. Saw him a few times loved what I saw. This kid has one hell of a shot. He's got good size too. The thing is though him playing in the telus cup might make him jump up on some teams list. As it stands right now Halifax's first 2nd round pick is 25 ( could go to 26 if CB drops OLeary) will he still be there then? If so he'd be a great pick up. But here's the other thing if CB drops O'Leary you got to think SJ might come sweep him up fast so the Moose next pick will be 5 picks later will he either one be there then?
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 23, 2015 7:43:11 GMT -4
I thought O'Leary did the ol, I will only play in Halifax or I am going the College route. Can we afford to pick him a little later if thats the case.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 7:58:22 GMT -4
With the 1st Round pick I think they should draft a defenseman either Jocktan Chainey or Antoine Crete-Belzile ... I do think Teasdale would be a good pick too just not sure he'll be there at #7 Wouldn't be surprised to see them snap up a couple Nova Scotia kids in the 2nd Round ... Kynan Berger and Logan O'Neil seem like good picks for where the Mooseheads are picking. The question has to be asked. Have you seen the 2 defensemen you named? I only ask because with how this team is set up on the backend I don't see them picking up a Dmen that early, unless he is a defensemen is the same caliber of Green or Girard. I think any defensemen that will be picked by the Moose will be pist to be honest. I do understand the whole pick the best player available talk but at 7 I just don't see Halifax playing that game and going with the best forward they can get there. Like I said they have a huge log jam on the backend, and the majority of them will be 18 or younger next year. Goaltending was already brought up and how their is a small log jam there as well. As for the 2nd picks I fully agree with Buger. Saw him a few times loved what I saw. This kid has one hell of a shot. He's got good size too. The thing is though him playing in the telus cup might make him jump up on some teams list. As it stands right now Halifax's first 2nd round pick is 25 ( could go to 26 if CB drops OLeary) will he still be there then? If so he'd be a great pick up. But here's the other thing if CB drops O'Leary you got to think SJ might come sweep him up fast so the Moose next pick will be 5 picks later will he either one be there then? For players from Quebec I generally talk to people that have seen them play but these aren't your average joe guys that go to watch the game for fun (Not that they don't enjoy it lol) ... That being said I trust their judgement. Are they going to be a Girard or Green type defender probably not - that being said they should be solid top 4 defenders in the not to distant future might need a season to get used to the pace. Maybe they will take a goaltender - If a forward I'd be hoping Teasdale drops and if he does I'd say take him over a D I'm just not so sure he'll be there. Either way I don't think there is a huge difference between the guys for the next few picks beyond Veleno*, Comtois, Bowers, and Morand so whatever works I'd just be hoping they don't go local this high (that includes Atlantic Canada) ... the only player that belongs in the top 10 at the very least is Bowers (and he's an obvious choice) Just not a great year for Atlantic Canada IMO
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 23, 2015 8:15:40 GMT -4
I thought O'Leary did the ol, I will only play in Halifax or I am going the College route. Can we afford to pick him a little later if thats the case. That was the "RUMOUR". I think SJ has everything Halifax has to offer but his own bed. I think they could convince him to come.
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 23, 2015 8:17:11 GMT -4
The question has to be asked. Have you seen the 2 defensemen you named? I only ask because with how this team is set up on the backend I don't see them picking up a Dmen that early, unless he is a defensemen is the same caliber of Green or Girard. I think any defensemen that will be picked by the Moose will be pist to be honest. I do understand the whole pick the best player available talk but at 7 I just don't see Halifax playing that game and going with the best forward they can get there. Like I said they have a huge log jam on the backend, and the majority of them will be 18 or younger next year. Goaltending was already brought up and how their is a small log jam there as well. As for the 2nd picks I fully agree with Buger. Saw him a few times loved what I saw. This kid has one hell of a shot. He's got good size too. The thing is though him playing in the telus cup might make him jump up on some teams list. As it stands right now Halifax's first 2nd round pick is 25 ( could go to 26 if CB drops OLeary) will he still be there then? If so he'd be a great pick up. But here's the other thing if CB drops O'Leary you got to think SJ might come sweep him up fast so the Moose next pick will be 5 picks later will he either one be there then? For players from Quebec I generally talk to people that have seen them play but these aren't your average joe guys that go to watch the game for fun (Not that they don't enjoy it lol) ... That being said I trust their judgement. Are they going to be a Girard or Green type defender probably not - that being said they should be solid top 4 defenders in the not to distant future might need a season to get used to the pace. Maybe they will take a goaltender - If a forward I'd be hoping Teasdale drops and if he does I'd say take him over a D I'm just not so sure he'll be there. Either way I don't think there is a huge difference between the guys for the next few picks beyond Veleno*, Comtois, Bowers, and Morand so whatever works I'd just be hoping they don't go local this high (that includes Atlantic Canada) ... the only player that belongs in the top 10 at the very least is Bowers (and he's an obvious choice) Just not a great year for Atlantic Canada IMO Well my thing is if that's all those guys are don't they already have that in the group of guys they have? I just don't see them using that high of a pick on what they already have.
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Post by novicefan on Apr 23, 2015 8:27:05 GMT -4
The question has to be asked. Have you seen the 2 defensemen you named? I only ask because with how this team is set up on the backend I don't see them picking up a Dmen that early, unless he is a defensemen is the same caliber of Green or Girard. I think any defensemen that will be picked by the Moose will be pist to be honest. I do understand the whole pick the best player available talk but at 7 I just don't see Halifax playing that game and going with the best forward they can get there. Like I said they have a huge log jam on the backend, and the majority of them will be 18 or younger next year. Goaltending was already brought up and how their is a small log jam there as well. As for the 2nd picks I fully agree with Buger. Saw him a few times loved what I saw. This kid has one hell of a shot. He's got good size too. The thing is though him playing in the telus cup might make him jump up on some teams list. As it stands right now Halifax's first 2nd round pick is 25 ( could go to 26 if CB drops OLeary) will he still be there then? If so he'd be a great pick up. But here's the other thing if CB drops O'Leary you got to think SJ might come sweep him up fast so the Moose next pick will be 5 picks later will he either one be there then? For players from Quebec I generally talk to people that have seen them play but these aren't your average joe guys that go to watch the game for fun (Not that they don't enjoy it lol) ... That being said I trust their judgement. Are they going to be a Girard or Green type defender probably not - that being said they should be solid top 4 defenders in the not to distant future might need a season to get used to the pace. Maybe they will take a goaltender - If a forward I'd be hoping Teasdale drops and if he does I'd say take him over a D I'm just not so sure he'll be there. Either way I don't think there is a huge difference between the guys for the next few picks beyond Veleno*, Comtois, Bowers, and Morand so whatever works I'd just be hoping they don't go local this high (that includes Atlantic Canada) ... the only player that belongs in the top 10 at the very least is Bowers (and he's an obvious choice) Just not a great year for Atlantic Canada IMO With all of the young developping D the Moose already have, some of whom are top 4 caliber, plus the addition of Donaghey, why would they waste a 7th overall on D, when firepower up front is what they are going to need with the departure of Ehlers, Gadoury, maybe Meier, and a one or two 20's. Picking up a D just doesn't make any sense for this year's draft. IMO
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 23, 2015 11:13:09 GMT -4
For players from Quebec I generally talk to people that have seen them play but these aren't your average joe guys that go to watch the game for fun (Not that they don't enjoy it lol) ... That being said I trust their judgement. Are they going to be a Girard or Green type defender probably not - that being said they should be solid top 4 defenders in the not to distant future might need a season to get used to the pace. Maybe they will take a goaltender - If a forward I'd be hoping Teasdale drops and if he does I'd say take him over a D I'm just not so sure he'll be there. Either way I don't think there is a huge difference between the guys for the next few picks beyond Veleno*, Comtois, Bowers, and Morand so whatever works I'd just be hoping they don't go local this high (that includes Atlantic Canada) ... the only player that belongs in the top 10 at the very least is Bowers (and he's an obvious choice) Just not a great year for Atlantic Canada IMO With all of the young developping D the Moose already have, some of whom are top 4 caliber, plus the addition of Donaghey, why would they waste a 7th overall on D, when firepower up front is what they are going to need with the departure of Ehlers, Gadoury, maybe Meier, and a one or two 20's. Picking up a D just doesn't make any sense for this year's draft. IMO Agree they have enough D but some older when you consider they were rookies. There is the option of trading one for forward help at draft or XMAS. If that were the case and the best D in the draft is the best player available that could change things. They will likely need to transfer wealth from one position to forward at some point. Dropping down would be another possibility, if top D is there, as teams tend to go in waves when drafting and if that's their need could be a good offer. Same for a team jumping for a goalie. The payoff could be worth more than drafting a forward at that point.
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Post by guru on Apr 23, 2015 14:42:59 GMT -4
I thought O'Leary did the ol, I will only play in Halifax or I am going the College route. Can we afford to pick him a little later if thats the case. I doubt O'Leary is anything special. Could be a good junior player, but meh. Halifax would probably have to overpay for him, not worth it.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 23, 2015 14:51:46 GMT -4
I thought O'Leary did the ol, I will only play in Halifax or I am going the College route. Can we afford to pick him a little later if thats the case. I doubt O'Leary is anything special. Could be a good junior player, but meh. Halifax would probably have to overpay for him, not worth it. Come draft time Moncton and SJ could just into the race for him so a trade might be the only way to get him. I'm still not sold on why we picked him and still have no idea what our plans are for his rights. There's been zero indication that he's ever considered playing here. I hope we take the pick assuming we can't move him for a 2nd and 3rd or something comparable.
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Post by guru on Apr 23, 2015 15:21:14 GMT -4
Too many people buy into the hype of a player if he doesn't report somewhere. All of a sudden it makes him a superstar or something. Good junior players are good to have on any team, but like I said earlier, if a player that doesn't report to a team is just going to be your standard junior hockey player, then who gives a shit? This isn't like Nathan MacKinnon not reporting somewhere. Not worth overpaying, but if you can acquire a player like this in a fair trade I guess... but definitely not a must-have.
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 23, 2015 15:22:22 GMT -4
I doubt O'Leary is anything special. Could be a good junior player, but meh. Halifax would probably have to overpay for him, not worth it. Come draft time Moncton and SJ could just into the race for him so a trade might be the only way to get him. I'm still not sold on why we picked him and still have no idea what our plans are for his rights. There's been zero indication that he's ever considered playing here. I hope we take the pick assuming we can't move him for a 2nd and 3rd or something comparable. I don't see why he would report to SJ or Moncton over CB and they wont want to overpay either. The burn factor is there for any team trading for him.
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