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Post by bigtimefan on Apr 28, 2015 12:53:57 GMT -4
ok why did it not follow the same schedule that rimouski/val d'or then? i believe the cats folowed the shedule and found alternate site so that the schedule was not effected and so did the moose by moving to the forum....once the "conflict with the pepsi ctr was resolved then a change to schedule should of happened...not using it as an excuse just stating a fact
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 28, 2015 12:57:11 GMT -4
ok why did it not follow the same schedule that rimouski/val d'or then? i believe the cats folowed the shedule and found alternate site so that the schedule was not effected and so did the moose by moving to the forum....once the "conflict with the pepsi ctr was resolved then a change to schedule should of happened...not using it as an excuse just stating a fact The Cats had to find an alternate site because they figured out they didn't have a building AFTER the schedule was already out and 2 or 3 games were played. Usually those issues are dealt with before the series.
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 28, 2015 13:12:04 GMT -4
I don't know why I bother backing up my posts with evidence to you because you never do and you just try to speak against the Cats every chance you get but once again I'll cave into your trolling. I didn't realize Malatesta's chest was above his neck. Here's the split second before Tkachev makes contact with Malatesta's face. As you can see it definitely wasn't an elbow as you were suggesting. It was body to body type contact, not targeting of the head in any way. How does that make me bias against anybody, I'm stating what I saw. Where did I suggest it was an elbow? I said it was a headshot which in my mind it still is. I went to look at the replay to confirm that.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 28, 2015 13:16:54 GMT -4
As you can see it definitely wasn't an elbow as you were suggesting. It was body to body type contact, not targeting of the head in any way. How does that make me bias against anybody, I'm stating what I saw. Where did I suggest it was an elbow? I said it was a headshot which in my mind it still is. I went to look at the replay to confirm that. The poster you jumped up enthusiastically to defend sad it was an elbow to the face, that's the post I responded to and you replied to mine. It wasn't a "headshot" which is characterized by the head being the primary point of contact, it was a full body impact. The shoulder contacted the face but only after hitting Malatersta in the chest. This was nowhere near what is characterized as a "headshot" which leads to suspensions.
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 28, 2015 13:39:52 GMT -4
Where did I suggest it was an elbow? I said it was a headshot which in my mind it still is. I went to look at the replay to confirm that. The poster you jumped up enthusiastically to defend sad it was an elbow to the face, that's the post I responded to and you replied to mine. It wasn't a "headshot" which is characterized by the head being the primary point of contact, it was a full body impact. The shoulder contacted the face but only after hitting Malatersta in the chest. This was nowhere near what is characterized as a "headshot" which leads to suspensions. I don't know how you and mooseinfo can think that the chest was the primary point of contact. I know I'm biased but I've watched the video many times and still can't figure out how you see that. I Vined it to make it easier for you to watch it a few times. vine.co/v/eWVYIQvHD3JI think the 2 minute call was fine regardless of the time and place. Does anyone else see what I see or does everyone agree with Billy and Steve that it was a bad call?
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Post by bigtimefan on Apr 28, 2015 13:43:09 GMT -4
ok why did it not follow the same schedule that rimouski/val d'or then? i believe the cats folowed the shedule and found alternate site so that the schedule was not effected and so did the moose by moving to the forum....once the "conflict with the pepsi ctr was resolved then a change to schedule should of happened...not using it as an excuse just stating a fact The Cats had to find an alternate site because they figured out they didn't have a building AFTER the schedule was already out and 2 or 3 games were played. Usually those issues are dealt with before the series. the RV show/car show has been booked there during this time for 10 or more years...they knew as soon as they made it to the second round that it would be an issue. just sort of strange that a conflict happens and schedule has to be arranged and all of a sudden there is nothing at the venue now???
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 28, 2015 13:46:37 GMT -4
The poster you jumped up enthusiastically to defend sad it was an elbow to the face, that's the post I responded to and you replied to mine. It wasn't a "headshot" which is characterized by the head being the primary point of contact, it was a full body impact. The shoulder contacted the face but only after hitting Malatersta in the chest. This was nowhere near what is characterized as a "headshot" which leads to suspensions. I don't know how you and mooseinfo can think that the chest was the primary point of contact. I know I'm biased but I've watched the video many times and still can't figure out how you see that. I Vined it to make it easier for you to watch it a few times. https://vine.co/v/eWVYIQvHD3JI think the 2 minute call was fine regardless of the time and place. Does anyone else see what I see or does everyone agree with Billy and Steve that it was a bad call? For whatever reason, it won't allow me to watch your video. Bottom line, it was a body impact and not an elbow or headshot, it happened during a puck battle with the puck nearby, what penalty do you think should get called?
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 28, 2015 13:50:04 GMT -4
I don't know how you and mooseinfo can think that the chest was the primary point of contact. I know I'm biased but I've watched the video many times and still can't figure out how you see that. I Vined it to make it easier for you to watch it a few times. https://vine.co/v/eWVYIQvHD3JI think the 2 minute call was fine regardless of the time and place. Does anyone else see what I see or does everyone agree with Billy and Steve that it was a bad call? For whatever reason, it won't allow me to watch your video. Bottom line, it was a body impact and not an elbow or headshot, it happened during a puck battle with the puck nearby, what penalty do you think should get called? With the puck nearby??? Well I guess it was in the same zone, is that nearby? If you can't see the video then I'm sorry, I made every effort possible even creating a vine account for you to be able to see it. Until your able to see it again there's no need for you to comment. I already know your opinion.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 28, 2015 13:53:16 GMT -4
For whatever reason, it won't allow me to watch your video. Bottom line, it was a body impact and not an elbow or headshot, it happened during a puck battle with the puck nearby, what penalty do you think should get called? With the puck nearby??? Well I guess it was in the same zone, is that nearby? If you can't see the video then I'm sorry, I made every effort possible even creating a vine account for you to be able to see it. Until your able to see it again there's no need for you to comment. I already know your opinion. The play starts with Tkachev with the puck going in on Malatesta and the impact is near the corner, puck can't be very far.
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 28, 2015 14:09:01 GMT -4
With the puck nearby??? Well I guess it was in the same zone, is that nearby? If you can't see the video then I'm sorry, I made every effort possible even creating a vine account for you to be able to see it. Until your able to see it again there's no need for you to comment. I already know your opinion. The play starts with Tkachev with the puck going in on Malatesta and the impact is near the corner, puck can't be very far. LMFAO near the corner? The hit happens in the top half of the faceoff circle. The puck is on its way to the corner. It was called roughing because the play was not a hockey play. It could have been called interference or hitting to the head too. Either way, it's a call that has to be made regardless of the scoreboard.
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 28, 2015 14:14:32 GMT -4
For whatever reason, it won't allow me to watch your video. Bottom line, it was a body impact and not an elbow or headshot, it happened during a puck battle with the puck nearby, what penalty do you think should get called? With the puck nearby??? Well I guess it was in the same zone, is that nearby? If you can't see the video then I'm sorry, I made every effort possible even creating a vine account for you to be able to see it. Until your able to see it again there's no need for you to comment. I already know your opinion. I can see it but the movement just increases what you see after. If you count the cloth of the excess Jersey in his face as the hit moves along I could see what you are saying but the impact happens, then his body rolls as both players are moving together.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 28, 2015 14:30:09 GMT -4
just a note.....moncton will have played 11 games in 19 days after tonightthe last 9 games have only had max 1 day off in between....its very strange that the "conflict" at the pepsi ctr went away mysteriously after the schedule came out to jam 4 games in 6 nights after playing a 7 game series and finishing 1 day before the start and quebec had a week off!!!! didnt we finish second???should moncton have been able to dictate the schedule? and on a ref note the slew foot at the blueline was right infront of the ref and you could see the grimace on his face when Erne scored? Mills and Hopkins did a pretty good job but a blatant no call on that play should have them removed from doing games for rest of playoffs it did effect the outcome! Moncton's building issues have disadvantaged other teams in the past. In 2010 we played SJ in the Prez Cup ... they were first overall but were forced into a 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 series (last 1 was not needed). They didn't like it but they had no choice. This time around it works against us. It is tough to cry foul when we are usually the team doing the fouling. Maybe Quebec did play some games to make it difficult ... but its tough to complain when we have to do it every year.
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Post by catnut on Apr 28, 2015 14:36:30 GMT -4
With the puck nearby??? Well I guess it was in the same zone, is that nearby? If you can't see the video then I'm sorry, I made every effort possible even creating a vine account for you to be able to see it. Until your able to see it again there's no need for you to comment. I already know your opinion. I can see it but the movement just increases what you see after. If you count the cloth of the excess Jersey in his face as the hit moves along I could see what you are saying but the impact happens, then his body rolls as both players are moving together. In what language are you writing? It looks like English but I can't make any sense of it.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 28, 2015 14:43:17 GMT -4
My only comment on the call was that I didn't like the call. That type of contact happened 20 times a game vs Halifax and Chic and didn't get called. Its playoff hockey and they let it go. I thought it was a call that could be let go with so much more that they let go.
On the puck ... Tkachev has the puck as he tries to go inside out on Malatesta ... and the puck goes into the corner from there. So the puck was definitely in the area at the time of the altercation, but moved away as they contacted each other.
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Post by mullycat on Apr 28, 2015 14:55:14 GMT -4
Lirette, you never noticed garland or barbs sucking wind on any shifts and they actually created scoring chances at the end of those long shifts? If that's the way you seen it, would you not agree that that is a major problem right there. They are playing a team where everyone seems to acknowledge that quebec is a very strong opponent. It's the third round of playoff hockey if your not sucking wind after 1 min shifts let alone 2 min + you shouldn't be out there regardless. As for your question which is it are they tired or rusty? My take on it is that the top core of this team are tired and the remainder are rusty, wondering who with and when will they be going over the boards. Players are rusty playing very minimal icetime and cold when they do. Now you can add nerves to the mix as well. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one Yeah its a major issue they are creating scoring chances. In hockey the team with the most goals wins. Quebec scored more goals and I didn't see a single goal that was due to long shifts by Garland or Barbashev. People keep bringing up plus minus which is the most overused overrated stat in sports. The 4th line is playing the same amount as any other 4th line in this playoffs. Its being overblown. If trip on Tassi gets called and the cats score on that PP and win the game no one is even talking about this Normally when someone agrees to disagree they shut up.
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