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Post by bois on Jun 5, 2015 11:00:30 GMT -4
Sweeney's value isn't going to drop in September... if anything it might rise knowing he's actually returning to the Q
There is no rush to get to 3 OA based on adding a 20 year old goalie who may well not even make the team to begin with
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Post by leftwinglock on Jun 5, 2015 11:01:06 GMT -4
My biggest question with Fortin is how good is he really? His numbers don't look overly awful.... but with CB having a goalie carosel and a kid comes along with an 8-2 record and a GAA of 3.53 overall why didn't he stick ya know?
I agree I think you'll see a few deals done for Sweeney and G Johnston..... Domminie and Tesink can fill the void along with hopefully an FA or an American player or two committing...
does anyone else find we are kind of a team caught in the middle.... no real spots up front or at the rear..... have some tradable players but nothing that will offer lights out return and emerging picks and players that need development.... I suppose it's not a bad thing.... but compared to the usual cycles we seem to be caught in the middle....
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 5, 2015 11:41:26 GMT -4
Apparently if Fortin plays a game for the Cats this season then they also give up a 4th round pick in 2016. That seems...excessive. He had really good numbers playing Junior A in Alberta last year and his Q numbers weren't horrible by any means. That is until he ended up in CB, which I guess shouldn't come as a surprise. Either way they're really gambling with this goaltending situation right now, but maybe there wasn't much else out there for a reasonable price. I really hope this doesn't end up being like the second half of 2011 with Gleeson/Kennedy/Thibeau because that was borderline unwatchable. Yup, unless they can add early 2016 picks, they would have only the 1st in the first 4 rounds.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 5, 2015 11:43:55 GMT -4
Sweeney's value isn't going to drop in September... if anything it might rise knowing he's actually returning to the Q There is no rush to get to 3 OA based on adding a 20 year old goalie who may well not even make the team to begin with You can get more in a conditional trade at the draft, speaking to 4-5 teams who have room for him than in September when there might only be 1. Trade him for a 3rd(or young player) with a conditional 1st in 2016, reasonable on both sides. The odds of him being back are probably about 75-80%, the scouts I spoke to said he would likely be a camp invite and not a pick.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 5, 2015 11:45:44 GMT -4
My biggest question with Fortin is how good is he really? His numbers don't look overly awful.... but with CB having a goalie carosel and a kid comes along with an 8-2 record and a GAA of 3.53 overall why didn't he stick ya know? I agree I think you'll see a few deals done for Sweeney and G Johnston..... Domminie and Tesink can fill the void along with hopefully an FA or an American player or two committing... does anyone else find we are kind of a team caught in the middle.... no real spots up front or at the rear..... have some tradable players but nothing that will offer lights out return and emerging picks and players that need development.... I suppose it's not a bad thing.... but compared to the usual cycles we seem to be caught in the middle.... They have a lot of guys that can play in the Q, but after Garland and Sweeney, it's mostly 3rd and 4th liners and #4-6 d-men. Guys like Smith and Johnson can fill in on a 2nd line but ideally they are 3rd liners on a good team.
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Post by ronmac on Jun 5, 2015 18:07:56 GMT -4
Does anyone think these were good trades? we trade down to pickup 3 extra picks this season, which is suppose to be a weak draft year? not sure what to think about these trades, opinions please.
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Post by mooseinfo on Jun 5, 2015 18:21:16 GMT -4
Does anyone think these were good trades? we trade down to pickup 3 extra picks this season, which is suppose to be a weak draft year? not sure what to think about these trades, opinions please. Its easier to predict moving down a little in the early rounds and getting the same guy or equal. Later rounds its more about quantity since predicting whats there at that pick is near impossible. Later guys are more about filling your roster out with needs and plenty of players qualified for depth and projects, especially if picking 1999s/Americans a lot. There could be certain teams you want to be ahead of in a round knowing they are likely the other team going for that player. Taking them a round higher be a waste too. I have seen in drafts teams trade just to move ahead and grab a guy. Big one was Halifax and Erne. They have been pissed when other teams do it to them too. They have there lists so a certain number of players are targeted.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Jun 5, 2015 21:13:04 GMT -4
I don't mind the moves. There are quite a few good Maritime kids ranked in the second round , so I think that is the target here.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2015 7:37:41 GMT -4
I don't mind the moves. There are quite a few good Maritime kids ranked in the second round , so I think that is the target here. Hopefully they get a good young goalie and a couple d-men with those 5 picks. Those are the glaring needs in terms of young talent.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2015 8:02:59 GMT -4
I wonder if the Cats will target O'Leary and if he would report here? He's a 1st round talent so somebody will surely take a chance. The Cats have usually gambled on this type of player...with mixed results. Crossman is another forward they will probably gamble on...but how early?
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Post by joehockey on Jun 6, 2015 9:05:43 GMT -4
I wonder if the Cats will target O'Leary and if he would report here? He's a 1st round talent so somebody will surely take a chance. The Cats have usually gambled on this type of player...with mixed results. Crossman is another forward they will probably gamble on...but how early? I think O'Leary will only go around 7 or later. Most teams won't want to waste a higher pick on him since he wouldn't report to CB. I think he is legitimately set on going to college so it would be hard to sway him and not worth the risk to draft him any higher. For Crossman, I think probably around round 8. I don't think he's as highly thought of talent wise as O'Leary and he too has committed. I think Moncton takes him though and is able to convince him to report eventually. Hard to turn down playing for the hometown team, especially when it's a big market team. I hope the cats grab Dawe later as well because he is a big time talent and seems to be good friends with Crossman. Maybe a team has talked to these players though and has a better felling and is willing to use a higher pick. They are all good players who should go higher than where they will likely be picked.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 6, 2015 9:06:53 GMT -4
I wonder if the Cats will target O'Leary and if he would report here? He's a 1st round talent so somebody will surely take a chance. The Cats have usually gambled on this type of player...with mixed results. Crossman is another forward they will probably gamble on...but how early? I think O'Leary will only go around 7 or later. Most teams won't want to waste a higher pick on him since he wouldn't report to CB. I think he is legitimately set on going to college so it would be hard to sway him and not worth the risk to draft him any higher. For Crossman, I think probably around round 8. I don't think he's as highly thought of talent wise as O'Leary and he too has committed. I think Moncton takes him though and is able to convince him to report eventually. Hard to turn down playing for the hometown team, especially when it's a big market team. I hope the cats grab Dawe later as well because he is a big time talent and seems to be good friends with Crossman. Maybe a team has talked to these players though and has a better felling and is willing to use a higher pick. They are all good players who should go higher than where they will likely be picked. I think Crossman and O'Leary go a lot higher than that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 9:30:25 GMT -4
I wonder if the Cats will target O'Leary and if he would report here? He's a 1st round talent so somebody will surely take a chance. The Cats have usually gambled on this type of player...with mixed results. Crossman is another forward they will probably gamble on...but how early? I think O'Leary will only go around 7 or later. Most teams won't want to waste a higher pick on him since he wouldn't report to CB. I think he is legitimately set on going to college so it would be hard to sway him and not worth the risk to draft him any higher. For Crossman, I think probably around round 8. I don't think he's as highly thought of talent wise as O'Leary and he too has committed. I think Moncton takes him though and is able to convince him to report eventually. Hard to turn down playing for the hometown team, especially when it's a big market team. I hope the cats grab Dawe later as well because he is a big time talent and seems to be good friends with Crossman. Maybe a team has talked to these players though and has a better felling and is willing to use a higher pick. They are all good players who should go higher than where they will likely be picked. I can see Moncton use one of their 2nd or 3rd round picks on Crossman.
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Post by joehockey on Jun 6, 2015 9:41:37 GMT -4
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Post by ronmac on Jun 6, 2015 10:26:36 GMT -4
Can anyone log onto the live draft?, I have tried without any luck. please let me know.
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