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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 1, 2015 10:18:44 GMT -4
I figured we could use a new thread since the other one was going a bit off topic.
Eagles are currently owners of 7 of the top 55 picks owning picks 4, 6, and 19 in round 1. Pick 36 in round 2. And picks 40, 42, and 55 in round 3.
Our roster currently looks something like the following:
Lazarev (19)/ Bishop (19) / Svechnikov (19) Dubois (17) / Martineau (18) / Boucher (18) MacSween (19) / Tower (18) / Smith (17)
Leblanc (19) / Leveille (19) Gosselin (20) / Lalonde (18) Deschamps (19) / Macintyre (19) Beaudin (17)
Belanger (20)
Our big needs are a top line forward, preferably a #1 Center to help replace Farrell.
A 3rd 20yr old.
A backup goaltender or front line #1 19yr old goaltender which can open up a 2nd 20 spot.
In terms of rumors it's been pretty quiet. Saint John has admitted to being in talks for pick #4.
Should be a lot of fireworks around the Eagles with the team looking for a big season in 2015-2016.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Jun 1, 2015 10:32:06 GMT -4
Hopefully Dumont will use his picks wisely,our top 2 picks,if traded,should bring a good return. Fully agree that we need to address a couple of top end forwards and the goaltending situation,which,IMO,he has fumbled since Day 1. With the right additions, I believe we could be a strong contender this year.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Jun 1, 2015 11:04:55 GMT -4
Thought this might interest you guys.
1/3 Philippe Lecavalier met fin aux rumeurs, Hockey Canada ne reconsidère pas sa décision dans le dossier Joseph Veleno
Philippe Lecavalier ends the rumors, Hockey Canada does not reconsider its decision in the case Joseph Veleno
.Steve Turcotte is reporting on twitter that Veleno will not be granted exceptional status.
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Post by caperguy on Jun 1, 2015 11:23:49 GMT -4
yes, address the needs - don't do a stop-gap then 'see if it works'. If you're going to get another goalie, let him be a trusted one. Just be wise with the transactions and improve the Eagles best he can.
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Post by goeagles on Jun 1, 2015 12:01:19 GMT -4
I figured we could use a new thread since the other one was going a bit off topic. Eagles are currently owners of 7 of the top 55 picks owning picks 4, 6, and 19 in round 1. Pick 36 in round 2. And picks 40, 42, and 55 in round 3. Our roster currently looks something like the following: Lazarev (19)/ Bishop (19) / Svechnikov (19) Dubois (17) / Martineau (18) / Boucher (18) MacSween (19) / Tower (18) / Smith (17) Leblanc (19) / Leveille (19) Gosselin (20) / Lalonde (18) Deschamps (19) / Macintyre (19) Beaudin (17) Belanger (20) Our big needs are a top line forward, preferably a #1 Center to help replace Farrell. A 3rd 20yr old. A backup goaltender or front line #1 19yr old goaltender which can open up a 2nd 20 spot. In terms of rumors it's been pretty quiet. Saint John has admitted to being in talks for pick #4. Should be a lot of fireworks around the Eagles with the team looking for a big season in 2015-2016. I read somewhere here that the cupboards are full from what Dumont has done the last couple of years. Other then draft picks looking at this list it is amazing how thin this team is. With the exception of those top four forwards, there is not one player that should be in on the top 3 lines. I like Boucher, Martineau and Tower as a responsible, energetic 4th line. Looking at the current roster up front really shows how much we need. I like the top 4 defenseman and think 5,6 and 7 are fine but I do not see that happening. Still need to find a true number one as Leblanc and Leveille are good and steady but not a true number one. Lastly I have a feeling if Belanger stays that our goaltending soap opera from the last couple of years continues. Will be a very intersting week.
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Post by looneytunes on Jun 1, 2015 12:16:17 GMT -4
They are thin up front and are especially thin if Lazarev does not report. The picks will have to be put to good use.
Martineau is better than a 4th liner. The kid really grew on me.
I don't see much of an issue with Belanger. He is not a star but he has shown in the series against Quebec that he is more than capable to adding stability to the crease.
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Post by hal on Jun 1, 2015 12:30:07 GMT -4
I figured we could use a new thread since the other one was going a bit off topic. Eagles are currently owners of 7 of the top 55 picks owning picks 4, 6, and 19 in round 1. Pick 36 in round 2. And picks 40, 42, and 55 in round 3. Our roster currently looks something like the following: Lazarev (19)/ Bishop (19) / Svechnikov (19) Dubois (17) / Martineau (18) / Boucher (18) MacSween (19) / Tower (18) / Smith (17) Leblanc (19) / Leveille (19) Gosselin (20) / Lalonde (18) Deschamps (19) / Macintyre (19) Beaudin (17) Belanger (20) Our big needs are a top line forward, preferably a #1 Center to help replace Farrell. A 3rd 20yr old. A backup goaltender or front line #1 19yr old goaltender which can open up a 2nd 20 spot. In terms of rumors it's been pretty quiet. Saint John has admitted to being in talks for pick #4. Should be a lot of fireworks around the Eagles with the team looking for a big season in 2015-2016. I read somewhere here that the cupboards are full from what Dumont has done the last couple of years. Other then draft picks looking at this list it is amazing how thin this team is. With the exception of those top four forwards, there is not one player that should be in on the top 3 lines. I like Boucher, Martineau and Tower as a responsible, energetic 4th line. Looking at the current roster up front really shows how much we need. I like the top 4 defenseman and think 5,6 and 7 are fine but I do not see that happening. Still need to find a true number one as Leblanc and Leveille are good and steady but not a true number one. Lastly I have a feeling if Belanger stays that our goaltending soap opera from the last couple of years continues. Will be a very intersting week. Martineau can play in that 7-8-9 spot easily . Don;t be shocked to see him the following year as a winger with Dubois .
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Post by mooseinfo on Jun 1, 2015 12:50:58 GMT -4
Your scout on topic.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 1, 2015 12:57:47 GMT -4
I figured we could use a new thread since the other one was going a bit off topic. Eagles are currently owners of 7 of the top 55 picks owning picks 4, 6, and 19 in round 1. Pick 36 in round 2. And picks 40, 42, and 55 in round 3. Our roster currently looks something like the following: Lazarev (19)/ Bishop (19) / Svechnikov (19) Dubois (17) / Martineau (18) / Boucher (18) MacSween (19) / Tower (18) / Smith (17) Leblanc (19) / Leveille (19) Gosselin (20) / Lalonde (18) Deschamps (19) / Macintyre (19) Beaudin (17) Belanger (20) Our big needs are a top line forward, preferably a #1 Center to help replace Farrell. A 3rd 20yr old. A backup goaltender or front line #1 19yr old goaltender which can open up a 2nd 20 spot. In terms of rumors it's been pretty quiet. Saint John has admitted to being in talks for pick #4. Should be a lot of fireworks around the Eagles with the team looking for a big season in 2015-2016. I read somewhere here that the cupboards are full from what Dumont has done the last couple of years. Other then draft picks looking at this list it is amazing how thin this team is. With the exception of those top four forwards, there is not one player that should be in on the top 3 lines. I like Boucher, Martineau and Tower as a responsible, energetic 4th line. Looking at the current roster up front really shows how much we need. I like the top 4 defenseman and think 5,6 and 7 are fine but I do not see that happening. Still need to find a true number one as Leblanc and Leveille are good and steady but not a true number one. Lastly I have a feeling if Belanger stays that our goaltending soap opera from the last couple of years continues. Will be a very intersting week. Martineau/Tower/Boucher would be a hell of a 4th line. Martineau to most of us was easily a top 9 forward by seasons end. I think we would have to bring in 3-4 bodies for that to happen. I also think we have 2 #1 defencemen in Leveille and Leblanc. They're just entering their 19yo season remember. Few defencemen are as good as they were at 18 in this league. Can you list many defencemen better then those 2? I don't think we need a #1 necessarily. As of now I don't think we need to touch the D at all outside of moving a 19yr old 3rd pairing guy to give the youth some more ice time.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 1, 2015 13:00:05 GMT -4
They are thin up front and are especially thin if Lazarev does not report. The picks will have to be put to good use. Martineau is better than a 4th liner. The kid really grew on me. I don't see much of an issue with Belanger. He is not a star but he has shown in the series against Quebec that he is more than capable to adding stability to the crease. When the team didn't play pond hockey there was no issue with our goaltending all year in my opinion. You can bring in Patrick Roy to be the goalie and it won't matter if the teams style does not tighten up with a lead. I agree with you on Belanger.
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Post by emerz on Jun 1, 2015 13:45:55 GMT -4
I dont think there is a team in the Q with a better defense than us next season personally. SJ maybe depending on how big a step Zboril/Chabot take.
You also have to understand that they're going to be even better than the D we saw post christmas trade period.
How example:
Leveille progression:
17 year old season: 0.44 PPG, prone to boneheaded plays, often times unegaged. 18 year old season: 0.79 PPG, much improved play in his own end.
Gosselin progression:
18 year old season: 0.24 PPG 19 year old season: 0.57 PPG one of our most steady defenseman easily, 5 points in 7 games in the playoffs and a +3.
and then LeBlanc who is obviously a #1 Defenseman.
Yes you can say the same for other teams but all our players are going to be at their "junior peaks" given that all 5/7 of our d-men will be 19+ and most having this year as their last year in the QMJHL.
Same can be said for our forwards which will be expected to lead the team.
Bishop 17 year old season: 0.58 PPG 18 Year old season: 0.92 PPG and a force in the playoffs with 5 goals in 7 games, along with 3 assists.
Lazarev 17 year old season: 0.72 PPG 18 year old season: 1.23 PPG
Svechnikov.. who knows about this one, 1.42 PPG in his 18 year old season, I think a Barbashev-esque production increase from his draft year to his draft year+1 season is about what to expect (1.41 PPG --> 1.67 PPG).
Obviously none of these things are guarantees but I truly do think if we surround the forward core with 2 more impact forwards and maybe a depth guy or two we can win the Q.
Like who is even the favorite next year? Val d'Or maybe? They're losing some important 20's, its so wide open next year.
So with that being said I hope we only make one of our first round picks (4 or 6), and trade the other 2 + some combinations of 3rd's (we have 6 in the next 2 drafts), for players that can help us win now. I mean even if we just make one of our 1st round picks (4 or 6) thats still better off than most teams trying to contend.
One scenario: Chicoutimi wants their 4th overall pick back + some smaller assets, we ask for Alexangre Ranger (PPG 19 year old last year) and Gabryel Paquin-Boudreau (PPG+ 19 year old last year but only played 12 total games due to a wrist injury, came back for the playoffs and potted 7 points in 5 games, 2nd round SJ Sharks pick, they may want to keep him in junior for conditioning), two high impact 20 year old forwards that would solidify our top 6 as leagues best, then shop for a 19 year old goaltender.
Edit: Gabryel Paquin-Boudreau was told he won't be signed by the Sharks so he should be playing his overage year next year.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Jun 1, 2015 14:18:50 GMT -4
If I were looking to trade with Chicoutimi, I would be looking at Ranger and Billia, the 19 year old goalie. I think a better trade for us to explore would be a blockbuster with Victoriavlille which would see us get Blais, Gagne, 17 year old goalie Tremblay and the #3 pick overall.That would probably cost us all of our first rounders but it sure would fill the holes in a hurry and we could still look for an impact 20.
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Post by BigTwig on Jun 1, 2015 14:22:26 GMT -4
They are thin up front and are especially thin if Lazarev does not report. The picks will have to be put to good use. Martineau is better than a 4th liner. The kid really grew on me. I don't see much of an issue with Belanger. He is not a star but he has shown in the series against Quebec that he is more than capable to adding stability to the crease. I find Belanger is not a starting goalie in the league. In the playoffs he plays gets blowin out, Sullivan plays and loses 3-1, Belanger goes back in and gets blowen again. We need a coach who can handle good goalies, Dumont has let Chase Marchand, Zac Fortin (because he traded for Brassard) and now he'll end up letting Sullivan go
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Post by eaglefan62 on Jun 1, 2015 14:28:46 GMT -4
Have to agree with you in how Dumont has handled the goaltenders. I find Belanger is inconsistent, he can be good or terrible. the one redemming thing is that you can tell very early in the piece if he is on his game or not. As far as Sullivan is concerned, just add him to the long list of goaltenders who Dumont has thrown under the bus.IMO, I would take Sullivan over Belanger.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 1, 2015 14:48:48 GMT -4
They are thin up front and are especially thin if Lazarev does not report. The picks will have to be put to good use. Martineau is better than a 4th liner. The kid really grew on me. I don't see much of an issue with Belanger. He is not a star but he has shown in the series against Quebec that he is more than capable to adding stability to the crease. I find Belanger is not a starting goalie in the league. In the playoffs he plays gets blowin out, Sullivan plays and loses 3-1, Belanger goes back in and gets blowen again. We need a coach who can handle good goalies, Dumont has let Chase Marchand, Zac Fortin (because he traded for Brassard) and now he'll end up letting Sullivan go Belanger won an elimination game in Quebec City in overtime. That trumps losing 3-1 at home in a much much tighter game then either 6-5 decision.
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