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Post by SteveUL on Oct 3, 2015 6:14:54 GMT -4
I think Rumble has to look at himself a bit on this one. By his words they Moncton was playing a "coward team" two days after a 100 PIM game between the same two teams, this game too was obviously dirty and rough and he put Garland out on the PP with a 3 goal lead and less than 5 minutes left. He's pissed that Dumont Is using the Eagles to go after his star when he's the one using Garland to try and embarrass the Eagles. The game was over and that gamble didn't prove to be worth it. We had already had several players tossed so the bench was shortened. More risk for shit to happen at 5 on 5 than on a man advantage. If we had a full bench I agree 100%.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 3, 2015 8:48:04 GMT -4
Definitely an unfortunate turn of events. In a way it's good that he wants to stand up for himself, but on the flip side, guys like MacEwen and Klebanksyj(was he playing?) should be there to protect the league's leading scorer.
The Eagles definitely looked frustrated. They seemned caught off guard by how detyermined the WC were and basically got outworked all game. Not entirely unexpected after the 7-3 shellacking.
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Post by jazz on Oct 3, 2015 9:21:43 GMT -4
It will be interesting to see how the league deals with this. If anybody believes that the Wildcat players, being young men, are not going to target particular Cape Breton players, whether justified or not, they are dreaming in technicolor. If the league does not nip this off severely this is going to evolve into a significant problem.
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Post by gtsoc on Oct 3, 2015 9:53:38 GMT -4
I think Rumble has to look at himself a bit on this one. By his words they Moncton was playing a "coward team" two days after a 100 PIM game between the same two teams, this game too was obviously dirty and rough and he put Garland out on the PP with a 3 goal lead and less than 5 minutes left. He's pissed that Dumont Is using the Eagles to go after his star when he's the one using Garland to try and embarrass the Eagles. The game was over and that gamble didn't prove to be worth it. We had already had several players tossed so the bench was shortened. More risk for shit to happen at 5 on 5 than on a man advantage. If we had a full bench I agree 100%. Knowing that Garland is a marked man, your coach had not one single player on that bench that he could have tossed out to take the bumps and bruises? It was a lopsided, dirty game with 2 and a half minutes to go and you are throwing your MVP out there on a PP in a game this early on in the season? Absolutely stupid decision.
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Post by lirette on Oct 3, 2015 11:12:14 GMT -4
We had already had several players tossed so the bench was shortened. More risk for shit to happen at 5 on 5 than on a man advantage. If we had a full bench I agree 100%. Knowing that Garland is a marked man, your coach had not one single player on that bench that he could have tossed out to take the bumps and bruises? It was a lopsided, dirty game with 2 and a half minutes to go and you are throwing your MVP out there on a PP in a game this early on in the season? Absolutely stupid decision. It was only a 3 goal lead, people are acting like it was 10-1. He had not played much in the last 10 mins before that
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2015 12:34:21 GMT -4
Knowing that Garland is a marked man, your coach had not one single player on that bench that he could have tossed out to take the bumps and bruises? It was a lopsided, dirty game with 2 and a half minutes to go and you are throwing your MVP out there on a PP in a game this early on in the season? Absolutely stupid decision. It was only a 3 goal lead, people are acting like it was 10-1. He had not played much in the last 10 mins before that In a game with a 3 goal lead with 2 and a half minutes left that was as nasty as this game was I wouldn't have been playing Garland either and definitely not if I believed he had been targeted prior to the actual incident but that's just me.
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Post by Dugger on Oct 3, 2015 12:42:50 GMT -4
Knowing that Garland is a marked man, your coach had not one single player on that bench that he could have tossed out to take the bumps and bruises? It was a lopsided, dirty game with 2 and a half minutes to go and you are throwing your MVP out there on a PP in a game this early on in the season? Absolutely stupid decision. It was only a 3 goal lead, people are acting like it was 10-1. He had not played much in the last 10 mins before that Rumble and Garland both have to share a large portion of responsibility for what happened. Rumble for putting him on the ice when he didn't need to (considering how the game was shaping up) and Garland for initiating the fight. Garland has no business mixing it up unless he needs to protect himself, he got cocky and suffered the consequences, it's a shame it happened and I hope he's going to be alright but so many bad decisions were made in that situation that Rumble's coaching competency needs to be questioned and hopefully Garland learned a valuable lesson.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 3, 2015 14:15:08 GMT -4
It was only a 3 goal lead, people are acting like it was 10-1. He had not played much in the last 10 mins before that In a game with a 3 goal lead with 2 and a half minutes left that was as nasty as this game was I wouldn't have been playing Garland either and definitely not if I believed he had been targeted prior to the actual incident but that's just me. He hadn't really been targeted in that game ... no more than anybody else anyway. Wednesday he was targeted. The circus was from hits on Holwell, Malatesta, Crossman, Weiderer ... And Cormier pounded Bertand for jumping him earlier in the game.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 3, 2015 14:21:22 GMT -4
It was only a 3 goal lead, people are acting like it was 10-1. He had not played much in the last 10 mins before that Rumble and Garland both have to share a large portion of responsibility for what happened. Rumble for putting him on the ice when he didn't need to (considering how the game was shaping up) and Garland for initiating the fight. Garland has no business mixing it up unless he needs to protect himself, he got cocky and suffered the consequences, it's a shame it happened and I hope he's going to be alright but so many bad decisions were made in that situation that Rumble's coaching competency needs to be questioned and hopefully Garland learned a valuable lesson. We were down 3 forwards from ejection. Garland didn't play much in the 3rd. We had a PP and Garland did not come out to start it ... but did come out a bit later. When you have 9 forwards and are only using 8 ... you look for a chance to get the extra guy out. A PP is the best time because the defenders take a more passive approach. Nothing happens if Garland shrugs off the cross check ... not Rumble's fault at all.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Oct 3, 2015 14:25:16 GMT -4
Obviously not a good decision by Garland to fight, but that's awfully easy for all of us to say. We're not out there in the heat of the moment.
As for him being out there in the first place...it was a 5-2 game and the Cats had a power play so they're hardly embarrassing the Eagles by putting him out. You see top guys out in more lopsided games than that. Also when the other team is taking liberties you want to make them pay. Like Steve just said it's not like they were really targeting Garland much during the game anyway.
Did he NEED to be out there? That's debatable, but I hardly think this should lead to an inquisition on Rumble's competency.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 3, 2015 16:31:45 GMT -4
Stephane Leroux tweeted that he will be out a minimum of a week with concussion symptoms.
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Post by hockeyguy92 on Oct 4, 2015 2:47:36 GMT -4
I'm sorry but the Martineau suspension is a joke. If anything Svech should have gotten suspended. People are mad because Garland was the leading scorer last year. He instigated the fight with Martineau and like many fights a player landed on top of the other. I do not wish to see anyone get injured as I suffered concussions in Junior. But unfortunately those things happen. I wish all the best to Connor Garland and the Moncton Wildcats. These things happen and we have to move on
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 4, 2015 5:07:58 GMT -4
I'm sorry but the Martineau suspension is a joke. If anything Svech should have gotten suspended. People are mad because Garland was the leading scorer last year. He instigated the fight with Martineau and like many fights a player landed on top of the other. I do not wish to see anyone get injured as I suffered concussions in Junior. But unfortunately those things happen. I wish all the best to Connor Garland and the Moncton Wildcats. These things happen and we have to move on I haven't seen anybody mad about the incident. People are mad about about the pile if shit that CB brought to the last two games. Cheap and dirty hockey. But if Martineau did intentionally pull off his helmet there is an automatic one game suspension for that.
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Post by hockeyguy92 on Oct 4, 2015 5:24:49 GMT -4
I agree thing have gotten out of hand. One thing I don't agree with was the Garland spear in the first game. But like you said slot of tensions are boiling over due to both teams being frustrated. And if intact Martineau took the helmet off by all means suspension.
I like the Wildcats organization, I just hope both teams shake this play between each other. Because of both teams decided to play it could be a very skilled game to watch with the talent on both teams
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 4, 2015 6:50:20 GMT -4
I agree thing have gotten out of hand. One thing I don't agree with was the Garland spear in the first game. But like you said slot of tensions are boiling over due to both teams being frustrated. And if intact Martineau took the helmet off by all means suspension. I like the Wildcats organization, I just hope both teams shake this play between each other. Because of both teams decided to play it could be a very skilled game to watch with the talent on both teams Garland doesn't spear anybody if he doesn't have to deal with all the CB garbage all game ... it all goes back to trash hockey brought by CB. Everybody blames Garland for being yappy ... but he just yaps at players that are yapping at him. He gives and takes and keeps it going but he doesn't go out on the ice to start shit ... he just responds to it. He becomes a target because his is so good.
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