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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 8, 2016 16:08:45 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 9, 2016 8:37:29 GMT -4
Just my unbiased opinion but Dubois is a much better "potential pro player" than Sheppard was....., accident aside The main edge Dubois has is skating and hockey sense on Sheppard.
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Post by hal on Mar 9, 2016 10:18:55 GMT -4
Just my unbiased opinion but Dubois is a much better "potential pro player" than Sheppard was....., accident aside The main edge Dubois has is skating and hockey sense on Sheppard. and as long as he doesn't get drafted by The Leafs where Jacques Lemaire is a consultant .......he should prosper . James Sheppard had the mis-fortune of that not happening to him .
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Post by bois on Mar 9, 2016 10:57:15 GMT -4
The main edge Dubois has is skating and hockey sense on Sheppard. and as long as he doesn't get drafted by The Leafs where Jacques Lemaire is a consultant .......he should prosper . James Sheppard had the mis-fortune of that not happening to him . you guys really have to stop blaming Lemaire and Minnesota for Sheppard failing to live up to expectations professionally
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Post by Kingrat on Mar 9, 2016 11:58:30 GMT -4
should be lots of scouts this W/E in Bathurst ... an entourage of sorts with 20-30 teams booked at the Atlantic Host ... hehe
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 9, 2016 12:07:37 GMT -4
The main edge Dubois has is skating and hockey sense on Sheppard. and as long as he doesn't get drafted by The Leafs where Jacques Lemaire is a consultant .......he should prosper . James Sheppard had the mis-fortune of that not happening to him . Yeah you don't want Mike Babcock getting a hold of a player with elite talent...if you're not a Leafs fan... There's a reason Lemaire keeps getting hired.
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Post by hal on Mar 9, 2016 14:32:03 GMT -4
and as long as he doesn't get drafted by The Leafs where Jacques Lemaire is a consultant .......he should prosper . James Sheppard had the mis-fortune of that not happening to him . Yeah you don't want Mike Babcock getting a hold of a player with elite talent...if you're not a Leafs fan... There's a reason Lemaire keeps getting hired. .............to tick off the "FRENCH" Box in the Employment Equity Numbers ?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 9, 2016 14:36:22 GMT -4
Yeah you don't want Mike Babcock getting a hold of a player with elite talent...if you're not a Leafs fan... There's a reason Lemaire keeps getting hired. .............to tick off the "FRENCH" Box in the Employment Equity Numbers ? No, only Montreal fans care where their players and personnel are born and raised. To the other 29 teams that's not at all relevant. 40 years of experience and Cup wins in numerous eras is a good enough reason to give a man a job in the NHL...to imply it's only because he's French is simply laughable.
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Post by hal on Mar 9, 2016 16:24:43 GMT -4
I agree ........it's pretty funny !
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Post by sherwood1020 on Mar 9, 2016 16:43:47 GMT -4
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Post by Screamin'Seagle on Mar 9, 2016 18:18:05 GMT -4
Dubois has been getting tons of media attention this season, The Overdrive guys on TSN (formally "Leafs Lunch") have mentioned his name on multiple occasions this year and just the other day James Duthie mentioned him while on the program.
Svechnikov has been mentioned a few times this season on different programs and in articles as well. Plus being drafted in the first round last year and Dubois predicted to go very high this year just proves the point that if you are a player with high end talent you don't need to play in a large market to be noticed, or run the risk of being over looked.
This type of exposure is exactly what a small market like Cape Breton can build off of and thrive on hopefully for the coming seasons and distant future. Fans can only hope that the days of draft picks snubbing the Eagles and whatever stereotypes of playing in Cape Breton are now in the past and that the organization can move on from here.
Now you could argue coaching, money or whatever else as a factor but with Cape Breton getting National attention with these star players for the past two seasons I'd say these "small market" stereotypes could be put to rest. Sorry for the chapter I had typed but as a fan seeing Cape Breton getting attention across the CHL is nice for a change and a far cry from the turmoil a few seasons ago.
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Post by downthemiddle on Mar 10, 2016 0:17:27 GMT -4
CB hasn't really escaped that "turmoil" thought until the team can really get something done in the playoffs. Dubois is sure fun to watch tho
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 10, 2016 2:04:55 GMT -4
Dubois has been getting tons of media attention this season, The Overdrive guys on TSN (formally "Leafs Lunch") have mentioned his name on multiple occasions this year and just the other day James Duthie mentioned him while on the program. Svechnikov has been mentioned a few times this season on different programs and in articles as well. Plus being drafted in the first round last year and Dubois predicted to go very high this year just proves the point that if you are a player with high end talent you don't need to play in a large market to be noticed, or run the risk of being over looked. This type of exposure is exactly what a small market like Cape Breton can build off of and thrive on hopefully for the coming seasons and distant future. Fans can only hope that the days of draft picks snubbing the Eagles and whatever stereotypes of playing in Cape Breton are now in the past and that the organization can move on from here. Now you could argue coaching, money or whatever else as a factor but with Cape Breton getting National attention with these star players for the past two seasons I'd say these "small market" stereotypes could be put to rest. Sorry for the chapter I had typed but as a fan seeing Cape Breton getting attention across the CHL is nice for a change and a far cry from the turmoil a few seasons ago. It's never been about us not producing elite talent. How many other CHL teams with multiple NHL 1st rounders and the potential #1 CHL Draft eligible prospect are in the middle of their league standings? The issues go well beyond any stereotypes and end up landing on those arguments you bring up...coaching...resources...other factors. It's great to see positive attention, but you have to appreciate that to many in the hockey world this franchise is still in turmoil. This should have been a top 2 or 3 team in the league and was around .500 for the first 55 games or so. I really think the way to approach the whole thing is to look at a Hoyt vs Bowers situation and trade down from the kid who doesn't want to play for you and pick the kid who does. You can't force a Roy or Bowers to report if they're not interested but there's still high end kids who do want to report and play here. Focus on them as was the objective in the past, where we could focus on some NCAA players but worried about the ones local to Atlantic Canada who were more likely to report and even pick up the odd contributing free agent using the same approach. I think the exposure is mildly over-rated from the perspective that the team isn't really generating any extra income because of these 2 elite talents. Attendance is barely ahead of the awful years from a few years back. Come October if Dubois cracks a poor NHL roster there's not much left to see here from that elite talent without a major playoff upset in round 2 this year to give the fans some sort of positive memory outside of watching great talent play on mediocre teams. Without that, the turmoil is still kind of present. But that doesn't mean you can't find talented kids to play here. Smarter management and smarter handling of the draft will go a long way to fixing their reputation among agents and others in the hockey world. That will go a long way toward getting back to respectability. That and a new coach and GM.
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Post by hal on Mar 10, 2016 4:50:38 GMT -4
Dubois has been getting tons of media attention this season, The Overdrive guys on TSN (formally "Leafs Lunch") have mentioned his name on multiple occasions this year and just the other day James Duthie mentioned him while on the program. Svechnikov has been mentioned a few times this season on different programs and in articles as well. Plus being drafted in the first round last year and Dubois predicted to go very high this year just proves the point that if you are a player with high end talent you don't need to play in a large market to be noticed, or run the risk of being over looked. This type of exposure is exactly what a small market like Cape Breton can build off of and thrive on hopefully for the coming seasons and distant future. Fans can only hope that the days of draft picks snubbing the Eagles and whatever stereotypes of playing in Cape Breton are now in the past and that the organization can move on from here. Now you could argue coaching, money or whatever else as a factor but with Cape Breton getting National attention with these star players for the past two seasons I'd say these "small market" stereotypes could be put to rest. Sorry for the chapter I had typed but as a fan seeing Cape Breton getting attention across the CHL is nice for a change and a far cry from the turmoil a few seasons ago. It's never been about us not producing elite talent. How many other CHL teams with multiple NHL 1st rounders and the potential #1 CHL Draft eligible prospect are in the middle of their league standings? The issues go well beyond any stereotypes and end up landing on those arguments you bring up...coaching...resources...other factors. It's great to see positive attention, but you have to appreciate that to many in the hockey world this franchise is still in turmoil. This should have been a top 2 or 3 team in the league and was around .500 for the first 55 games or so. I really think the way to approach the whole thing is to look at a Hoyt vs Bowers situation and trade down from the kid who doesn't want to play for you and pick the kid who does. You can't force a Roy or Bowers to report if they're not interested but there's still high end kids who do want to report and play here. Focus on them as was the objective in the past, where we could focus on some NCAA players but worried about the ones local to Atlantic Canada who were more likely to report and even pick up the odd contributing free agent using the same approach. I think the exposure is mildly over-rated from the perspective that the team isn't really generating any extra income because of these 2 elite talents. Attendance is barely ahead of the awful years from a few years back. Come October if Dubois cracks a poor NHL roster there's not much left to see here from that elite talent without a major playoff upset in round 2 this year to give the fans some sort of positive memory outside of watching great talent play on mediocre teams. Without that, the turmoil is still kind of present. But that doesn't mean you can't find talented kids to play here. Smarter management and smarter handling of the draft will go a long way to fixing their reputation among agents and others in the hockey world. That will go a long way toward getting back to respectability. That and a new coach and GM. Which should happen unless this Team goes on a pretty good run......at least the 3rd round .
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Post by Screamin'Seagle on Mar 10, 2016 12:31:38 GMT -4
Dubois has been getting tons of media attention this season, The Overdrive guys on TSN (formally "Leafs Lunch") have mentioned his name on multiple occasions this year and just the other day James Duthie mentioned him while on the program. Svechnikov has been mentioned a few times this season on different programs and in articles as well. Plus being drafted in the first round last year and Dubois predicted to go very high this year just proves the point that if you are a player with high end talent you don't need to play in a large market to be noticed, or run the risk of being over looked. This type of exposure is exactly what a small market like Cape Breton can build off of and thrive on hopefully for the coming seasons and distant future. Fans can only hope that the days of draft picks snubbing the Eagles and whatever stereotypes of playing in Cape Breton are now in the past and that the organization can move on from here. Now you could argue coaching, money or whatever else as a factor but with Cape Breton getting National attention with these star players for the past two seasons I'd say these "small market" stereotypes could be put to rest. Sorry for the chapter I had typed but as a fan seeing Cape Breton getting attention across the CHL is nice for a change and a far cry from the turmoil a few seasons ago. It's never been about us not producing elite talent. How many other CHL teams with multiple NHL 1st rounders and the potential #1 CHL Draft eligible prospect are in the middle of their league standings? The issues go well beyond any stereotypes and end up landing on those arguments you bring up...coaching...resources...other factors. It's great to see positive attention, but you have to appreciate that to many in the hockey world this franchise is still in turmoil. This should have been a top 2 or 3 team in the league and was around .500 for the first 55 games or so. I really think the way to approach the whole thing is to look at a Hoyt vs Bowers situation and trade down from the kid who doesn't want to play for you and pick the kid who does. You can't force a Roy or Bowers to report if they're not interested but there's still high end kids who do want to report and play here. Focus on them as was the objective in the past, where we could focus on some NCAA players but worried about the ones local to Atlantic Canada who were more likely to report and even pick up the odd contributing free agent using the same approach. I think the exposure is mildly over-rated from the perspective that the team isn't really generating any extra income because of these 2 elite talents. Attendance is barely ahead of the awful years from a few years back. Come October if Dubois cracks a poor NHL roster there's not much left to see here from that elite talent without a major playoff upset in round 2 this year to give the fans some sort of positive memory outside of watching great talent play on mediocre teams. Without that, the turmoil is still kind of present. But that doesn't mean you can't find talented kids to play here. Smarter management and smarter handling of the draft will go a long way to fixing their reputation among agents and others in the hockey world. That will go a long way toward getting back to respectability. That and a new coach and GM. Just to clarify I didn't mean to say we've never produced highly skilled players or talent, just look at Shaw, Ellis, Fleury, Sheppard, Bourdon, etc. .. But well said, you bring up a lot of good points and some statements I've haven't given much thought. I suppose I'm still bitter about our first rounders not reporting, it's kind of a slap in the face in my mind, like whats wrong with us? or why not Cape Breton? I was looking at the situation from a fan perspective and was looking into the future of our organization. Getting some recognition this season is a nice change. You were bang on about the possibility of Dubois going to the NHL next year, If that is the case we're right back at the beginning of a rebuild without that high end talent on our ice. We should all, as fans, enjoy what we have and not focus on what we don't have. Enjoy the moment and the season and hope for a nice long playoff run. Along with the Russians, Joly, etc. we may not see a team of this caliber for some time.
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