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Post by eagleog on Apr 20, 2016 19:03:16 GMT -4
when do you think we will know ? 19 days I'll be home from down south around that time, perfect news to make me feel better about going back to work. I hope you're right! |
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Post by pivotman95 on Apr 20, 2016 19:06:29 GMT -4
Instead of a letter composed by one fan, why not have a petition signed by all the disgruntled fans and presented to the Board? It's happy fans that give them their bread and butter. seriously yes we should and I would do that |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2016 19:10:21 GMT -4
In a way the board could look at it like this.
Dumont cost them a lot of profit.
Take a minimum of 2 home games the next round.
9800 ppl x 15 per ticket = 147,000
9800 ppl x 10 concession spending = 98,000 x 25 % (Eagles Cut Estimated)= 24,500
Expenses = 2 plane trips, staff, related expenses = 50,000 (a guess)
These are only estimated but it seems like Dumonts poor coaching could have cost the Eagles close to or over 100,000
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Post by Clubber Lang on Apr 20, 2016 22:09:51 GMT -4
In a way the board could look at it like this. Dumont cost them a lot of profit. Take a minimum of 2 home games the next round. 9800 ppl x 15 per ticket = 147,000 9800 ppl x 10 concession spending = 98,000 x 25 % (Eagles Cut Estimared) = 24,500 Expenses = 2 plane trips, staff, related expenses = 50,000 (a guess) These are only estimated but it seems like Dumonts poor coaching could have cost the Eagles close to or over 100,000 |
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Post by hal on Apr 21, 2016 4:10:55 GMT -4
That is a pretty powerful message................but are the "right people" listening ?
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Post by dt281 on Apr 21, 2016 6:21:12 GMT -4
How do you figure? What is the harm? I think they make take it and fire it in garbage, read and file it whatever but i am missing the harm then good? Do you mean they may keep him (Dumont)? No. I am saying 1 letter with misinformation coming from the "fans" can harm any attempt to get through to people who are dealing in business decisions and not emotional decisions. We have no idea about how the owners think or what the expectations were that they had. Trying to get a message through to people when you don't know their agenda and don't have all the same information they do(financial and personal) can be difficult and if not done properly really not help the cause any. I disagree. It doesn't matter if we know what financial expectations the board has for this team. As paying customers to this business, we have expectations of the product we are paying to see. Pointing out to them in a letter that you are concerned that our coach has no structure and his inability to add to the D hurt this years team, can't hurt. Do you think it bothers them more to get 1 well constructed letter from a customer or hundreds of not so well written ones? They aren't teachers grading these papers, they will get the mob mentality of so many threatening to not spend their money on this product till changes are made. That is their financial plan to add customers not lose them!! |
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Post by dt281 on Apr 21, 2016 6:26:59 GMT -4
That message will get the board listening. The threat of losing one of their top sponsors should not be taken lightly. The money lost from this sponsor could have made the difference between us adding a coach/GM that would run things right (Joseph) or getting another Choules/Dumont. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 21, 2016 8:44:09 GMT -4
No. I am saying 1 letter with misinformation coming from the "fans" can harm any attempt to get through to people who are dealing in business decisions and not emotional decisions. We have no idea about how the owners think or what the expectations were that they had. Trying to get a message through to people when you don't know their agenda and don't have all the same information they do(financial and personal) can be difficult and if not done properly really not help the cause any. I disagree. It doesn't matter if we know what financial expectations the board has for this team. As paying customers to this business, we have expectations of the product we are paying to see. Pointing out to them in a letter that you are concerned that our coach has no structure and his inability to add to the D hurt this years team, can't hurt. Do you think it bothers them more to get 1 well constructed letter from a customer or hundreds of not so well written ones? They aren't teachers grading these papers, they will get the mob mentality of so many threatening to not spend their money on this product till changes are made. That is their financial plan to add customers not lose them!! There's all kinds of paying customers. Not all opinions from them hold the same weight. As they shouldn't in a business like this. If some people wrote a letter using some of the misinformation they post here combined with the poor grammar we see...even if the overall point was accurate...it wouldn't hold the same weight as something done properly. Judging by the news article last night, if a few more sponsors spoke out to their expectations I think we would all get what we're looking for. |
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Post by dt281 on Apr 21, 2016 9:27:13 GMT -4
I disagree. It doesn't matter if we know what financial expectations the board has for this team. As paying customers to this business, we have expectations of the product we are paying to see. Pointing out to them in a letter that you are concerned that our coach has no structure and his inability to add to the D hurt this years team, can't hurt. Do you think it bothers them more to get 1 well constructed letter from a customer or hundreds of not so well written ones? They aren't teachers grading these papers, they will get the mob mentality of so many threatening to not spend their money on this product till changes are made. That is their financial plan to add customers not lose them!! There's all kinds of paying customers. Not all opinions from them hold the same weight. As they shouldn't in a business like this. If some people wrote a letter using some of the misinformation they post here combined with the poor grammar we see...even if the overall point was accurate...it wouldn't hold the same weight as something done properly. Judging by the news article last night, if a few more sponsors spoke out to their expectations I think we would all get what we're looking for. I hope you're right with regards to the sponsors but a paying season ticket holder should carry some weight regardless of his grammar. I agree certain people writing wouldn't hold as much clout as others but none the less they should voice there opinion with the coach. Maybe not get into too much detail just say they are unhappy with the coach and would like to see changes. |
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Post by bois on Apr 21, 2016 10:15:53 GMT -4
That message will get the board listening. The threat of losing one of their top sponsors should not be taken lightly. The money lost from this sponsor could have made the difference between us adding a coach/GM that would run things right (Joseph) or getting another Choules/Dumont. I didn't see/hear a threat of losing a sponsor in that piece and the piece loses alot of value by adding at the end that maybe next year will be your year any fool can see next year has no chance of being your year to go deep |
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Post by bois on Apr 21, 2016 10:17:19 GMT -4
In a way the board could look at it like this. Dumont cost them a lot of profit. Take a minimum of 2 home games the next round. 9800 ppl x 15 per ticket = 147,000 9800 ppl x 10 concession spending = 98,000 x 25 % (Eagles Cut Estimated)= 24,500 Expenses = 2 plane trips, staff, related expenses = 50,000 (a guess) These are only estimated but it seems like Dumonts poor coaching could have cost the Eagles close to or over 100,000 devils advocate better coach gets you thru Chicoutimi in 4 games and Saint John in 5.. actually better coach means likely completely different playoff matchups altogether but whatever..... then run into Rouyn and go down in 4 same number of playoffs home dates under that scenario |
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Post by catnut on Apr 21, 2016 10:35:48 GMT -4
In a way the board could look at it like this. Dumont cost them a lot of profit. Take a minimum of 2 home games the next round. 9800 ppl x 15 per ticket = 147,000 9800 ppl x 10 concession spending = 98,000 x 25 % (Eagles Cut Estimated)= 24,500 Expenses = 2 plane trips, staff, related expenses = 50,000 (a guess) These are only estimated but it seems like Dumonts poor coaching could have cost the Eagles close to or over 100,000 devils advocate better coach gets you thru Chicoutimi in 4 games and Saint John in 5.. actually better coach means likely completely different playoff matchups altogether but whatever..... then run into Rouyn and go down in 4 same number of playoffs home dates under that scenario Better coach would have had them finish higher in the standings and possibly avoid R-N until the finals. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 21, 2016 11:06:34 GMT -4
That message will get the board listening. The threat of losing one of their top sponsors should not be taken lightly. The money lost from this sponsor could have made the difference between us adding a coach/GM that would run things right (Joseph) or getting another Choules/Dumont. I didn't see/hear a threat of losing a sponsor in that piece and the piece loses alot of value by adding at the end that maybe next year will be your year any fool can see next year has no chance of being your year to go deep Agreed. A proper story would have mentioned that the team now enters another rebuilding phase. This isn't the NHL where your momentum carries over in your returning team. We lose almost everyone who would be considered an impact player. I do like the idea of speaking to sponsors like the MacDonald group who work a lot with the team. They have an opinion that has to be respected. |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 21, 2016 12:29:01 GMT -4
In a way the board could look at it like this. Dumont cost them a lot of profit. Take a minimum of 2 home games the next round. 9800 ppl x 15 per ticket = 147,000 9800 ppl x 10 concession spending = 98,000 x 25 % (Eagles Cut Estimated)= 24,500 Expenses = 2 plane trips, staff, related expenses = 50,000 (a guess) These are only estimated but it seems like Dumonts poor coaching could have cost the Eagles close to or over 100,000 They hired him ... watched him Coach for how many seasons now ... 3 ? The only one to blame for falling short is the ownership group. Then you are assuming that a better Coach gets you past SJ ... but I think the better team won. |
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Post by dt281 on Apr 21, 2016 12:45:21 GMT -4
In a way the board could look at it like this. Dumont cost them a lot of profit. Take a minimum of 2 home games the next round. 9800 ppl x 15 per ticket = 147,000 9800 ppl x 10 concession spending = 98,000 x 25 % (Eagles Cut Estimated)= 24,500 Expenses = 2 plane trips, staff, related expenses = 50,000 (a guess) These are only estimated but it seems like Dumonts poor coaching could have cost the Eagles close to or over 100,000 They hired him ... watched him Coach for how many seasons now ... 3 ? The only one to blame for falling short is the ownership group. Then you are assuming that a better Coach gets you past SJ ... but I think the better team won. A better coach and I doubt they are playing The Sea Dogs. Our last 2 years which were our go for it years we finished 13th and 7th this year. No way we should have had to face a team like Quebec first round last year. I think they would have had 4 more wins this season with a better coach which wins us the division and gets us a more favourable match up. In the end you are right that ownership made the blunder but it's time they correct the problem. |
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