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The draft
Apr 25, 2016 9:13:57 GMT -4
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 25, 2016 9:13:57 GMT -4
There's a list of things that CB need to do this draft. I say number one on the list is figure out what your going to do with Bowers. Personally I think you let him go and take the 9th pick. I've read some stuff from people on this board and a lot of you think he worth Halifax's 7th overall pick because he can get the 9th overall pick. That simply not the case. If he played in the league this year maybe but he's not in the league and gave up a year already. His Value has gone down. Now he still might get 2 assets but not as high as the 9th pick. Now it was said earlier on this subject take the best player that will report. That's what has to happen here. This pick needs to count. The next thing I would do is definitely trade one 20 for some extra picks. From what I've read here through the playoffs and not watching any games it sounds like Carozza wasn't exactly giving his all. He has value, nothing near what you paid for him but he could get you I'd say a 3rd round pick plus either a 17yo player or a 5th rounder. Something like that. I said before on the Halifax board about keeping both LeBlanc and Leveille and then trade them in season they will be worth more then. Just look at Quebec with what they did with Murphy and Brouillard. CB's two guys are a step down from the other two but still applies. However I some what changed thinking on that and they should trade Leveille at the draft. He might not get you a boat load then but some team might give a 1st for him. If that happens take it and run. I think more realistic is to expect a starting point of a 2nd rounder and maybe another one or a 3rd rounder. Once again take it and run. Then you keep LeBlanc till teams that are looking to add a Top pairing defencemen for the playoffs comes calling. (Perfect fit might be where he came from) also I would do this very same thing with Giovanni, sort of like what Halifax did with Moynihan. That's just my thoughts. Doubt Leblanc is back as an overager. Leveille's value keeps getting worse. I'd move him at the draft for whatever I can to get him away from here out of fear of his 1st half further killing his value. Go with MacIntyre, Fiore, Carozza for the 1st half. Leblanc has yet to sign and the clock is ticking. Not saying isn't going too but usually when a player is 19 and done with his CHL team they Sign pretty quickly if he is in the NHL teams plans. Plus being a 7th round pick doesn't show they are super high on him. I think he will be back. And if he is I'd go with MacIntyre, Fiore and LeBlanc. Trade Carozza for some Extra picks. Need to jump start the rebuild.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 25, 2016 9:41:34 GMT -4
Doubt Leblanc is back as an overager. Leveille's value keeps getting worse. I'd move him at the draft for whatever I can to get him away from here out of fear of his 1st half further killing his value. Go with MacIntyre, Fiore, Carozza for the 1st half. Leblanc has yet to sign and the clock is ticking. Not saying isn't going too but usually when a player is 19 and done with his CHL team they Sign pretty quickly if he is in the NHL teams plans. Plus being a 7th round pick doesn't show they are super high on him. I think he will be back. And if he is I'd go with MacIntyre, Fiore and LeBlanc. Trade Carozza for some Extra picks. Need to jump start the rebuild. We have picks to jump start it no matter who is back. We could have 3 1st rounders without trading any roster players if we choose to do so.
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The draft
Apr 25, 2016 9:51:05 GMT -4
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Post by eagleog on Apr 25, 2016 9:51:05 GMT -4
If Leblanc doesn't sign with Columbus he'll find a contract somewhere being in the AHL or ECHL. Levielle killed his value with his play and attitude..
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The draft
Apr 25, 2016 12:03:31 GMT -4
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 25, 2016 12:03:31 GMT -4
Leblanc has yet to sign and the clock is ticking. Not saying isn't going too but usually when a player is 19 and done with his CHL team they Sign pretty quickly if he is in the NHL teams plans. Plus being a 7th round pick doesn't show they are super high on him. I think he will be back. And if he is I'd go with MacIntyre, Fiore and LeBlanc. Trade Carozza for some Extra picks. Need to jump start the rebuild. We have picks to jump start it no matter who is back. We could have 3 1st rounders without trading any roster players if we choose to do so. You can have 2 but there is no way you get Chicoutimis first for Comp of the whole Ranger thingy. It was the 19th pick overall the league won't give you guys the 9th pick for that slash 10th if you drop Bowers. Your looking more around there 2nd round pick. It's crazy to think other wise.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 25, 2016 12:05:27 GMT -4
We have picks to jump start it no matter who is back. We could have 3 1st rounders without trading any roster players if we choose to do so. You can have 2 but there is no way you get Chicoutimis first for Comp of the whole Ranger thingy. It was the 19th pick overall the league won't give you guys the 9th pick for that slash 10th if you drop Bowers. Your looking more around there 2nd round pick. It's crazy to think other wise. It's not opinion. Read a bit before you do your usual and go off on someone without knowing the full story.
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The draft
Apr 25, 2016 12:08:18 GMT -4
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 25, 2016 12:08:18 GMT -4
You can have 2 but there is no way you get Chicoutimis first for Comp of the whole Ranger thingy. It was the 19th pick overall the league won't give you guys the 9th pick for that slash 10th if you drop Bowers. Your looking more around there 2nd round pick. It's crazy to think other wise. It's not opinion. Read a bit before you do your usual and go off on someone without knowing the full story. I've have there is no way you will get the Chi 1st rounder it a top 10 pick for what was a pick that really should have been a 2nd rounder.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 25, 2016 12:09:49 GMT -4
It's not opinion. Read a bit before you do your usual and go off on someone without knowing the full story. I've have there is no way you will get the Chi 1st rounder it a top 10 pick for what was a pick that really should have been a 2nd rounder. Man...just stop making a fool of yourself and let me do your google work for you.... thechronicleherald.ca/sports/1303915-cape-breton-screaming-eagles%E2%80%99-ranger-signs-pro-deal-likely-to-play-in-echlShould Ranger not play in the Q this season, the Screaming Eagles will receive either a first-round pick in 2016 or 2017, or two second-round picks in 2016 from the Sagueneens. Cape Breton will activate one of those options following the season if Ranger doesn’t come back.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 25, 2016 12:12:22 GMT -4
The full deal was:
2015-06-05 Chicoutimi Cape Breton Ranger, Alexandre (1995-08-18) Rd_3, #50, 2015 Cape Breton Chicoutimi Rd_1, #19, 2015 Rd_2, #36, 2015 Rd_3, #55, 2015
Pick 19 and 36 for Pick 9 really isn't that crazy but please stat man enlighten us some more with your knowledge.
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The draft
Apr 25, 2016 13:30:01 GMT -4
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 25, 2016 13:30:01 GMT -4
The full deal was: 2015-06-05 Chicoutimi Cape Breton Ranger, Alexandre (1995-08-18) Rd_3, #50, 2015 Cape Breton Chicoutimi Rd_1, #19, 2015 Rd_2, #36, 2015 Rd_3, #55, 2015 Pick 19 and 36 for Pick 9 really isn't that crazy but please stat man enlighten us some more with your knowledge. There no way that remotely fair. That is how ever fair with their 26 and 27 picks. I guess we're using Cape Breton math slash logic there eh?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 25, 2016 13:40:54 GMT -4
The full deal was: 2015-06-05 Chicoutimi Cape Breton Ranger, Alexandre (1995-08-18) Rd_3, #50, 2015 Cape Breton Chicoutimi Rd_1, #19, 2015 Rd_2, #36, 2015 Rd_3, #55, 2015 Pick 19 and 36 for Pick 9 really isn't that crazy but please stat man enlighten us some more with your knowledge. There no way that remotely fair. That is how ever fair with their 26 and 27 picks. I guess we're using Cape Breton math slash logic there eh? Are you for real? There's no Cape Breton/Mainland/Nova Scotia/Halifax/Maritime/Atlantic Canada logic. It's facts that we're referencing from legitimate sources. Your opinion on what is/is not fair is fine, but does not apply to a scenario where we are addressing facts that a trusted journalist has in print. So, you can continue to be pretentious while trying to belittle me and where I live, but that doesn't change the facts that are being discussed. You had your facts completely incorrect yet think your opinion somehow matters because it disagrees with the facts. That must be the Halifax logic in you, eh? I'm sure you can call Chicoutimi up and let them know that a trade they negotiated is not remotely fair. Maybe you can work with them to get the terms adjusted. It's both hilarious and very petty watching people turn to personal attacks on an entire region because they disagree with a trade between 2 Q teams that they do not cheer for....and mostly because they didn't bother to read up on the terms of the deal before commenting on what the terms are. No point in continuing on here, you're very plainly in the wrong. So you can have the last word and try to save some face in a discussion that's gone downhill pretty quickly since you were badly exposed at how informed you were before bothering to discuss that deal and the compensation terms.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 25, 2016 13:44:41 GMT -4
If Leblanc doesn't sign with Columbus he'll find a contract somewhere being in the AHL or ECHL. Levielle killed his value with his play and attitude.. Agreed. Unless Leblanc has his heart set on schooling of some sort I believe he'll play pro somewhere.
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Post by cb67 on Apr 25, 2016 13:49:18 GMT -4
It's starting to really amaze me with the people on these boards that continue to go on and on after being presented facts that prove them wrong.
People need to learn when to tap the fuck out and just admit defeat.
Ain't no shame in being wrong about something.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 25, 2016 13:52:47 GMT -4
It's starting to really amaze me with the people on these boards that continue to go on and on after being presented facts that prove them wrong. People neee to learn when to tap the fuck out and just admit defeat. Ain't no shame in being wrong about something. Yes, and that's not even getting into their opinion that picks 26 and 27 for picks 19 and 36 is a fair deal but pick 9 for 19 and 36 is not. He's entitled to that opinion, even if people don't agree. But you can't be entitled to an opinion based on incorrect facts that you're trying to dispute with opinion and not any facts that may change the facts we're referencing.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Apr 25, 2016 14:25:10 GMT -4
There no way that remotely fair. That is how ever fair with their 26 and 27 picks. I guess we're using Cape Breton math slash logic there eh? Are you for real? There's no Cape Breton/Mainland/Nova Scotia/Halifax/Maritime/Atlantic Canada logic. It's facts that we're referencing from legitimate sources. Your opinion on what is/is not fair is fine, but does not apply to a scenario where we are addressing facts that a trusted journalist has in print. So, you can continue to be pretentious while trying to belittle me and where I live, but that doesn't change the facts that are being discussed. You had your facts completely incorrect yet think your opinion somehow matters because it disagrees with the facts. That must be the Halifax logic in you, eh? I'm sure you can call Chicoutimi up and let them know that a trade they negotiated is not remotely fair. Maybe you can work with them to get the terms adjusted. It's both hilarious and very petty watching people turn to personal attacks on an entire region because they disagree with a trade between 2 Q teams that they do not cheer for....and mostly because they didn't bother to read up on the terms of the deal before commenting on what the terms are. No point in continuing on here, you're very plainly in the wrong. So you can have the last word and try to save some face in a discussion that's gone downhill pretty quickly since you were badly exposed at how informed you were before bothering to discuss that deal and the compensation terms. Yeah I cringed when he took a shot at CB. There are a few on these boards that simply CANNOT just admit or apologize when they are wrong... just say "holy shit, sorry. That seemed too much to me but I was wrong". Whether it was too much in his opinion has no impact on whether it's true lol. As Neil DeGrasse Tyson says, "The great thing about science is that it's true whether you want to believe it or not"
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The draft
Apr 25, 2016 14:27:00 GMT -4
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Post by statsman18 on Apr 25, 2016 14:27:00 GMT -4
There no way that remotely fair. That is how ever fair with their 26 and 27 picks. I guess we're using Cape Breton math slash logic there eh? Are you for real? There's no Cape Breton/Mainland/Nova Scotia/Halifax/Maritime/Atlantic Canada logic. It's facts that we're referencing from legitimate sources. Your opinion on what is/is not fair is fine, but does not apply to a scenario where we are addressing facts that a trusted journalist has in print. So, you can continue to be pretentious while trying to belittle me and where I live, but that doesn't change the facts that are being discussed. You had your facts completely incorrect yet think your opinion somehow matters because it disagrees with the facts. That must be the Halifax logic in you, eh? I'm sure you can call Chicoutimi up and let them know that a trade they negotiated is not remotely fair. Maybe you can work with them to get the terms adjusted. It's both hilarious and very petty watching people turn to personal attacks on an entire region because they disagree with a trade between 2 Q teams that they do not cheer for....and mostly because they didn't bother to read up on the terms of the deal before commenting on what the terms are. No point in continuing on here, you're very plainly in the wrong. So you can have the last word and try to save some face in a discussion that's gone downhill pretty quickly since you were badly exposed at how informed you were before bothering to discuss that deal and the compensation terms. First off you are changing everything here. I said there's no way it's going to be the 9th/ 10th overall pick. I stand by that because there probably another per vision in there that say some thing like both teams have to agree or it can't be the top 10 pick in 2016. Now I don't know this for sure but been around the league long enough to know this is how they go down. Think about it why would they even bother putting 2 2nds in it if the pick wasn't protected. Right that would be LOGICAL. Second, I will never hide that I'm a moose first guy. But if the Moose are out the Eagles are the next team I go to. I want them to succeed and flourish. It's better for the region as a whole if they do. This I also have made known. But yourself with your head stuck up your ass on your own perch would over look that.
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