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Post by catnut on Nov 22, 2016 17:11:49 GMT -4
6 games for Dumulong.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Nov 22, 2016 17:34:05 GMT -4
Also, can we please all be adults here, When I or myself call someone like Resop garbage it is a few things. A. First and foremost a comment about his play, not him as a human. B. On a forum where we discuss the team not directed at him on say twitter C. Grow up "oh no bullies". Bullies are an important part of the social growth of children, it is more in the media today because of the tools created to amplify the act which is the problem. Cell Phones, Facebook, or likely in this case twitter. I highly doubt anyone from this forum is going to his twitter account and calling him garbage, so leave it at home Sally. Go tell that to the Parsons family. Very ignorant and stupid comment to make. Bullies are why LGBTQ kids have such a tough time through their adolescence. To defend that as normal and classify it as important is pretty pathetic. He is a Trump fan.
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Post by Reesor on Nov 22, 2016 17:50:45 GMT -4
theqmjhl.ca/video/dumulong-suspended-6-gamesDirect quote: •The player at fault propelled himself at impact and simultaneously hit the opponent’s body and head with force.Are the rules in the Q different than in the NHL? In the NHL, as long as you hit through the body, and the head isn't the principle point of contact, the hit is clean, regardless of there being a little contact with the head. If the rule is that there should be zero head contact, then fine. But man, Dumalong did all he could IMO to make this a clean hit, and still got six games. You can't judge an open-ice hit better than he did. They're going to take it out of the game completely. Meanwhile, Rafuse crosschecks someone in the neck... a non-hockey play... and gets one game. This league is so weird sometimes in the message they are trying to send.
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Post by emerz on Nov 22, 2016 18:04:13 GMT -4
theqmjhl.ca/video/dumulong-suspended-6-gamesDirect quote: •The player at fault propelled himself at impact and simultaneously hit the opponent’s body and head with force.Are the rules in the Q different than in the NHL? In the NHL, as long as you hit through the body, and the head isn't the principle point of contact, the hit is clean, regardless of there being a little contact with the head. If the rule is that there should be zero head contact, then fine. But man, Dumalong did all he could IMO to make this a clean hit, and still got six games. You can't judge an open-ice hit better than he did. They're going to take it out of the game completely. Sometimes, the people that are most powerful, just aren't very smart it would appear. I mean look at Q games, there's like on average 10+ powerplay's per game where as in the NHL there's lucky to be like 3 on each team, they're trying to police the games a little bit too hard right now if you ask me. Games on November 18th power play time stats. Volts vs Olympiques - 12 power plays Blainville vs R-N - 9 power plays SNB vs Bathurst - 11 power plays Sherbrooke vs B-C - 8 power plays Victo vs QC - 3 power plays Charlottetown vs Cape Breton - 14 power plays Halifax vs Moncton - 11 power plays It's like you actually can't even do anything remotely physical on the ice anymore without an INSTANT penalty being called. i dunno maybe im wrong but these numbers of powerplays seem ridiculously high.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Nov 22, 2016 19:10:42 GMT -4
theqmjhl.ca/video/dumulong-suspended-6-gamesDirect quote: •The player at fault propelled himself at impact and simultaneously hit the opponent’s body and head with force.Are the rules in the Q different than in the NHL? In the NHL, as long as you hit through the body, and the head isn't the principle point of contact, the hit is clean, regardless of there being a little contact with the head. If the rule is that there should be zero head contact, then fine. But man, Dumalong did all he could IMO to make this a clean hit, and still got six games. You can't judge an open-ice hit better than he did. They're going to take it out of the game completely. Meanwhile, Rafuse crosschecks someone in the neck... a non-hockey play... and gets one game. This league is so weird sometimes in the message they are trying to send. If that is a 6 game suspension, then you might as well stop "stepping up" to hit someone because you are propelling your body into the hit. I suppose only hits to take guys out where the bodies are generally moving the same way (like a D-man skating backwards and coming across to hit the man) would be allowed. Did he have a previous record that impacted this? (edit: saw the comments on the decision - yes he did) Jiri Suchy would have been suspended for like 10 games, every time he threw a hit lol. His most damaging hits were when he stepped up for a suicide pass or to take out a pass admiring forward.
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Post by Reesor on Nov 22, 2016 19:39:12 GMT -4
theqmjhl.ca/video/dumulong-suspended-6-gamesDirect quote: •The player at fault propelled himself at impact and simultaneously hit the opponent’s body and head with force.Are the rules in the Q different than in the NHL? In the NHL, as long as you hit through the body, and the head isn't the principle point of contact, the hit is clean, regardless of there being a little contact with the head. If the rule is that there should be zero head contact, then fine. But man, Dumalong did all he could IMO to make this a clean hit, and still got six games. You can't judge an open-ice hit better than he did. They're going to take it out of the game completely. Sometimes, the people that are most powerful, just aren't very smart it would appear. I mean look at Q games, there's like on average 10+ powerplay's per game where as in the NHL there's lucky to be like 3 on each team, they're trying to police the games a little bit too hard right now if you ask me. Games on November 18th power play time stats. Volts vs Olympiques - 12 power plays Blainville vs R-N - 9 power plays SNB vs Bathurst - 11 power plays Sherbrooke vs B-C - 8 power plays Victo vs QC - 3 power plays Charlottetown vs Cape Breton - 14 power plays Halifax vs Moncton - 11 power plays It's like you actually can't even do anything remotely physical on the ice anymore without an INSTANT penalty being called. i dunno maybe im wrong but these numbers of powerplays seem ridiculously high. The number of powerplays are going to be higher in junior hockey because the players aren't as good. Not as many silly penalties taken in the pros. I don't think there's a league-wide problem with refereeing. It's supplemental discipline that makes me scratch my head. I don't think I'll ever completely understand the rationale behind some suspensions.
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Post by Reesor on Nov 22, 2016 19:41:00 GMT -4
theqmjhl.ca/video/dumulong-suspended-6-gamesDirect quote: •The player at fault propelled himself at impact and simultaneously hit the opponent’s body and head with force.Are the rules in the Q different than in the NHL? In the NHL, as long as you hit through the body, and the head isn't the principle point of contact, the hit is clean, regardless of there being a little contact with the head. If the rule is that there should be zero head contact, then fine. But man, Dumalong did all he could IMO to make this a clean hit, and still got six games. You can't judge an open-ice hit better than he did. They're going to take it out of the game completely. Meanwhile, Rafuse crosschecks someone in the neck... a non-hockey play... and gets one game. This league is so weird sometimes in the message they are trying to send. If that is a 6 game suspension, then you might as well stop "stepping up" to hit someone because you are propelling your body into the hit. I suppose only hits to take guys out where the bodies are generally moving the same way (like a D-man skating backwards and coming across to hit the man) would be allowed. Did he have a previous record that impacted this? (edit: saw the comments on the decision - yes he did) Jiri Suchy would have been suspended for like 10 games, every time he threw a hit lol. His most damaging hits were when he stepped up for a suicide pass or to take out a pass admiring forward. I know I'd be afraid to make an open-ice hit right now in the CHL because unless the stars align and you line your hit up perfectly, you're probably getting a penalty... or getting suspended. If you're 3 inches or more taller than the person you're hitting, good luck not clipping their chin on an open-ice hit... regardless of how much "through the body" you are with the hit.
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Post by Joe Rogan on Nov 22, 2016 19:53:05 GMT -4
This league has no idea what it's doing in regards to discipline. It really is a joke.
I'm the first to get all up in arms when it goes against the Mooseheads, but I can be objective and also see that this suspension is not warranted.
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Post by yurireeka on Nov 22, 2016 20:17:40 GMT -4
That suspension. Ha Ha ha Ha ... what a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 21:16:21 GMT -4
I'm a Moosehead fan and I think this is a joke! That was a nice hit to a player that opened up his body to a poor position as Dumulong was coming at him. I've played a lot of contact hockey and when two guys collide the bodies often jolt up. Even worse, almost every hit on a player will make the head snap back a little....that today is a head shot regardless of whether the head was touched.
I'm glad the seventies hits are being taken out of hockey but if I was a player in the Q now I'd be worried about throwing a good check.
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Post by devinm on Nov 22, 2016 23:14:05 GMT -4
Also, can we please all be adults here, When I or myself call someone like Resop garbage it is a few things. A. First and foremost a comment about his play, not him as a human. B. On a forum where we discuss the team not directed at him on say twitter C. Grow up "oh no bullies". Bullies are an important part of the social growth of children, it is more in the media today because of the tools created to amplify the act which is the problem. Cell Phones, Facebook, or likely in this case twitter. I highly doubt anyone from this forum is going to his twitter account and calling him garbage, so leave it at home Sally. Go tell that to the Parsons family. Very ignorant and stupid comment to make. Bullies are why LGBTQ kids have such a tough time through their adolescence. To defend that as normal and classify it as important is pretty pathetic. I have no idea why your idiot posts make me want to reply to them, but they do. First off the Parsons family that situation was horrible, and I am not going to say it was not. However it was made 5000 times worse because of the factors I mentioned like cell phones and facebook etc etc. LGBTQ kids have a lot more then just bullies to worry about, Family, Teachers, friends etc etc Thirdly obviously there is a limit to what I would say is helpful when talking about bullies, clearly not beating the shit out of people or smearing naked pictures of people all over the internet is a good thing. However there is a level of Bullying that creates character, allows people to grow and take care of themselves. Also I would not of voted for Trump, people suggesting that all people who voted for Trump are intolerant, racists, and whatever else are no better.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 23, 2016 9:41:57 GMT -4
Go tell that to the Parsons family. Very ignorant and stupid comment to make. Bullies are why LGBTQ kids have such a tough time through their adolescence. To defend that as normal and classify it as important is pretty pathetic. I have no idea why your idiot posts make me want to reply to them, but they do. First off the Parsons family that situation was horrible, and I am not going to say it was not. However it was made 5000 times worse because of the factors I mentioned like cell phones and facebook etc etc. LGBTQ kids have a lot more then just bullies to worry about, Family, Teachers, friends etc etc Thirdly obviously there is a limit to what I would say is helpful when talking about bullies, clearly not beating the shit out of people or smearing naked pictures of people all over the internet is a good thing. However there is a level of Bullying that creates character, allows people to grow and take care of themselves. Also I would not of voted for Trump, people suggesting that all people who voted for Trump are intolerant, racists, and whatever else are no better. My idiot posts? Your post pretty much made you the biggest piece of shit asshole here based on how you're trying to justify(and STILL trying to...) bullying and how it has it's place in society. It. Does. Not. Did you even for one second bother to read the fucking garbage that you posted there? If family, teachers and friends have issues with someone who is LGBTQ because they are LGBTQ then they are also bullies. Why not share the level of bullying that creates character and how you think it's ok? I guarantee you people with children, especially ones with any sort of uniqueness about them, will rip your opinion a new asshole because you're using 1950's logic to defend a 2016 issue and you are 100% wrong on it and my idiot posts will gladly tell your redneck and pro-bullying posts that same thing. Who would have voted for Donald Trump has nothing to do with this. You are clearly very pro-making people miserable if you think you can defend it as character building. Never mind the fact that you're tearing down a persons character in order to build it, though, right? Your opinion on this honestly disgusts me.
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Post by mikeyp on Nov 28, 2016 16:21:51 GMT -4
Go tell that to the Parsons family. Very ignorant and stupid comment to make. Bullies are why LGBTQ kids have such a tough time through their adolescence. To defend that as normal and classify it as important is pretty pathetic. I have no idea why your idiot posts make me want to reply to them, but they do. First off the Parsons family that situation was horrible, and I am not going to say it was not. However it was made 5000 times worse because of the factors I mentioned like cell phones and facebook etc etc. LGBTQ kids have a lot more then just bullies to worry about, Family, Teachers, friends etc etc Thirdly obviously there is a limit to what I would say is helpful when talking about bullies, clearly not beating the shit out of people or smearing naked pictures of people all over the internet is a good thing. However there is a level of Bullying that creates character, allows people to grow and take care of themselves. Also I would not of voted for Trump, people suggesting that all people who voted for Trump are intolerant, racists, and whatever else are no better. What you appear unable to grasp is the fact that its 2016: you cannot separate the archaic behaviour you are defending from the technology at the disposal of the people who bully. Look I think we all understand that adversity builds character (which appears to be at the root of your argument) but unfortunately there aren't any ground rules or a "bully code of ethics" for "acceptable bullying".
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Post by devinm on Nov 29, 2016 5:20:47 GMT -4
I have no idea why your idiot posts make me want to reply to them, but they do. First off the Parsons family that situation was horrible, and I am not going to say it was not. However it was made 5000 times worse because of the factors I mentioned like cell phones and facebook etc etc. LGBTQ kids have a lot more then just bullies to worry about, Family, Teachers, friends etc etc Thirdly obviously there is a limit to what I would say is helpful when talking about bullies, clearly not beating the shit out of people or smearing naked pictures of people all over the internet is a good thing. However there is a level of Bullying that creates character, allows people to grow and take care of themselves. Also I would not of voted for Trump, people suggesting that all people who voted for Trump are intolerant, racists, and whatever else are no better. What you appear unable to grasp is the fact that its 2016: you cannot separate the archaic behaviour you are defending from the technology at the disposal of the people who bully. Look I think we all understand that adversity builds character (which appears to be at the root of your argument) but unfortunately there aren't any ground rules or a "bully code of ethics" for "acceptable bullying". Not exactly sure why you are hashing this up after we've clearly been avoiding it for days, but I can continue if you wish.
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