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Post by Score on Apr 3, 2024 9:02:26 GMT -4
and hopefully Horth gets healthy and has a successful next endeavour in his hockey future Which will probably be with University de Moncton. “I hope I can get something pro, like a contract. But if I don’t, I’m going to U-of-Moncton. I still want to play pro and be a hockey player for my career.” -Horth |
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Post by Mika on Apr 3, 2024 9:22:18 GMT -4
some of you get very sensitive lol it was obvious a year and a half ago we were in for a rebuild and should be moving assets to expedite the process it's not hindsight to say good thing we held onto Horth when I was a proponent of moving him over a year ago lol but go drink some kool aid we don't have near enough to build around ... it's gonna be a very long process to get back to contention unless some unpopular moves are made on a sidenote i was actually able to watch the game last night tho the play by play was trailing a good 5 seconds behind the picture...... kudos to the boys for battling back hopefully a better crowd for them tonight and a good off season ahead for Isles fans and hopefully Horth gets healthy and has a successful next endeavour in his hockey future Was that the Eastlink feed or the online one? The picture on the replay screen is off about that much too. As for trading players, there's a lot we just don't know. We don't know Hulton's asking price vs what was actually offered. It's not a good look on management to take way below the price you were looking for. But that logic works for any sale. If I'm selling my PS5 for say $500, well I wouldn't take an offer of $300. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 3, 2024 9:34:35 GMT -4
some of you get very sensitive lol it was obvious a year and a half ago we were in for a rebuild and should be moving assets to expedite the process it's not hindsight to say good thing we held onto Horth when I was a proponent of moving him over a year ago lol but go drink some kool aid we don't have near enough to build around ... it's gonna be a very long process to get back to contention unless some unpopular moves are made on a sidenote i was actually able to watch the game last night tho the play by play was trailing a good 5 seconds behind the picture...... kudos to the boys for battling back hopefully a better crowd for them tonight and a good off season ahead for Isles fans and hopefully Horth gets healthy and has a successful next endeavour in his hockey future Was that the Eastlink feed or the online one? The picture on the replay screen is off about that much too. As for trading players, there's a lot we just don't know. We don't know Hulton's asking price vs what was actually offered. It's not a good look on management to take way below the price you were looking for. But that logic works for any sale. If I'm selling my PS5 for say $500, well I wouldn't take an offer of $300. But what if your PS5 had a 5 year shelf life and you were negotiating the sale at the 4.5 year mark? If its going to die in 6 months....$50 or $100 could be justified if you want $500 and there's no offers. You might be better off investing in a game collection to get the maximum value out of the PS5's remaining life span. Or just take what you can get and bring in a PS4 for free that you might get 1.5 years out of. |
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Post by bois on Apr 3, 2024 12:46:16 GMT -4
man i have made my point on this so many times but will one last time
when you are in the rebuild mode early stages you need to replenish your draft stock
Hulton has been a fantastic GM here and I am so happy we found him and he stabilized our market and set us up for many years of sustained success..... but he failed miserably the past two years in addressing the replenishing of assets part of the job.... some was outside his control but some was not
You don't keep valuable assets to lose in 4 straight non competitive hockey games in late March when you don't have high draft picks to look forward to in the summer
anyways I sincerely hope he has a plan this year and next to get the team back to where it was...... because another year or two of this and you will see huge attendance drops..... especially in the current day economy
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Post by bois on Apr 3, 2024 12:47:58 GMT -4
some of you get very sensitive lol it was obvious a year and a half ago we were in for a rebuild and should be moving assets to expedite the process it's not hindsight to say good thing we held onto Horth when I was a proponent of moving him over a year ago lol but go drink some kool aid we don't have near enough to build around ... it's gonna be a very long process to get back to contention unless some unpopular moves are made on a sidenote i was actually able to watch the game last night tho the play by play was trailing a good 5 seconds behind the picture...... kudos to the boys for battling back hopefully a better crowd for them tonight and a good off season ahead for Isles fans and hopefully Horth gets healthy and has a successful next endeavour in his hockey future
As for trading players, there's a lot we just don't know. We don't know Hulton's asking price vs what was actually offered. It's not a good look on management to take way below the price you were looking for. But that logic works for any sale. If I'm selling my PS5 for say $500, well I wouldn't take an offer of $300. i'm pretty sure what i was able to get was the online feed from Baie Comeau with the audio broadcast from the radio station was very hard to watch and listen to..... wound up watching the halifax-bathurst feed as much as if not more since it was pretty well synched |
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Post by dutchinc on Apr 3, 2024 17:32:27 GMT -4
man i have made my point on this so many times but will one last time when you are in the rebuild mode early stages you need to replenish your draft stock Hulton has been a fantastic GM here and I am so happy we found him and he stabilized our market and set us up for many years of sustained success..... but he failed miserably the past two years in addressing the replenishing of assets part of the job.... some was outside his control but some was not You don't keep valuable assets to lose in 4 straight non competitive hockey games in late March when you don't have high draft picks to look forward to in the summer anyways I sincerely hope he has a plan this year and next to get the team back to where it was...... because another year or two of this and you will see huge attendance drops..... especially in the current day economy Agreed. We don’t have any high pics this year. We don’t really have anyone to trade. Next year with the loss of Cole, Gio and Horth….we can’t replace them cause we have nothing to deal. We will be bottom feeders next year. The year after will be better, marginally. I hope. |
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Post by jordo999 on Apr 3, 2024 18:55:34 GMT -4
man i have made my point on this so many times but will one last time when you are in the rebuild mode early stages you need to replenish your draft stock Hulton has been a fantastic GM here and I am so happy we found him and he stabilized our market and set us up for many years of sustained success..... but he failed miserably the past two years in addressing the replenishing of assets part of the job.... some was outside his control but some was not You don't keep valuable assets to lose in 4 straight non competitive hockey games in late March when you don't have high draft picks to look forward to in the summer anyways I sincerely hope he has a plan this year and next to get the team back to where it was...... because another year or two of this and you will see huge attendance drops..... especially in the current day economy Agreed. We don’t have any high pics this year. We don’t really have anyone to trade. Next year with the loss of Cole, Gio and Horth….we can’t replace them cause we have nothing to deal. We will be bottom feeders next year. The year after will be better, marginally. I hope. Not sure what the overall plan is but the islanders could pull a Saint John and trade one of their promising 17/18 YOs for more draft capital, similar to the sea dogs moving Burbidge |
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Post by bois on Apr 3, 2024 22:00:50 GMT -4
Agreed. We don’t have any high pics this year. We don’t really have anyone to trade. Next year with the loss of Cole, Gio and Horth….we can’t replace them cause we have nothing to deal. We will be bottom feeders next year. The year after will be better, marginally. I hope. Not sure what the overall plan is but the islanders could pull a Saint John and trade one of their promising 17/18 YOs for more draft capital, similar to the sea dogs moving Burbidge Thats the only way to do it people wont like it but its the wisest choice to make |
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Post by davo1997 on Apr 4, 2024 7:22:20 GMT -4
Getting Kearsey and Conrad where they did was elite for the Islanders i also like Alexis Michaud alot
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2024 8:52:20 GMT -4
man i have made my point on this so many times but will one last time when you are in the rebuild mode early stages you need to replenish your draft stock Hulton has been a fantastic GM here and I am so happy we found him and he stabilized our market and set us up for many years of sustained success..... but he failed miserably the past two years in addressing the replenishing of assets part of the job.... some was outside his control but some was not You don't keep valuable assets to lose in 4 straight non competitive hockey games in late March when you don't have high draft picks to look forward to in the summer anyways I sincerely hope he has a plan this year and next to get the team back to where it was...... because another year or two of this and you will see huge attendance drops..... especially in the current day economy Agreed. We don’t have any high pics this year. We don’t really have anyone to trade. Next year with the loss of Cole, Gio and Horth….we can’t replace them cause we have nothing to deal. We will be bottom feeders next year. The year after will be better, marginally. I hope. We have GM's who live in a competitive bubble. When they think they can win they're willing to trade picks years down the road. But fans still are expected to buy tickets for that season no different in the teams eyes than the winning years. Its such a disconnect and you would think that for the fans sake that the league would try and restrict some of the reckless moves for the competitive balance of the league. If you just sat through a bad season and have no 1st round pick to look forward to why are you coming back next year? Might as well come back in 2026 or 2027 when your team is ready to compete again. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2024 8:54:08 GMT -4
Not sure what the overall plan is but the islanders could pull a Saint John and trade one of their promising 17/18 YOs for more draft capital, similar to the sea dogs moving Burbidge Thats the only way to do it people wont like it but its the wisest choice to make Agreed. To not trade a Kearsey would be a mistake. Building a winner around him is basically impossible. And if you wait until he's 19 the return won't be anything like you can get at this years draft. |
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Post by davo1997 on Apr 4, 2024 9:41:17 GMT -4
Agreed. We don’t have any high pics this year. We don’t really have anyone to trade. Next year with the loss of Cole, Gio and Horth….we can’t replace them cause we have nothing to deal. We will be bottom feeders next year. The year after will be better, marginally. I hope. We have GM's who live in a competitive bubble. When they think they can win they're willing to trade picks years down the road. But fans still are expected to buy tickets for that season no different in the teams eyes than the winning years. Its such a disconnect and you would think that for the fans sake that the league would try and restrict some of the reckless moves for the competitive balance of the league. If you just sat through a bad season and have no 1st round pick to look forward to why are you coming back next year? Might as well come back in 2026 or 2027 when your team is ready to compete again. It sucks for sure but the attitude to have is to support your rookies and be there managment is terrible for sure especially to not have a 1st after this season is dreadful but its the name of the game sometimes. Charlettown Had one of best Q teams the league has seen in 2022 they just fumbled the finals. Asset managment wasnt handled properly at all this year but Kearsey will bring in the lot from anyone. it will be bright in the future just gonna take longer that its supposed to. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2024 10:17:50 GMT -4
We have GM's who live in a competitive bubble. When they think they can win they're willing to trade picks years down the road. But fans still are expected to buy tickets for that season no different in the teams eyes than the winning years. Its such a disconnect and you would think that for the fans sake that the league would try and restrict some of the reckless moves for the competitive balance of the league. If you just sat through a bad season and have no 1st round pick to look forward to why are you coming back next year? Might as well come back in 2026 or 2027 when your team is ready to compete again. It sucks for sure but the attitude to have is to support your rookies and be there managment is terrible for sure especially to not have a 1st after this season is dreadful but its the name of the game sometimes. Charlettown Had one of best Q teams the league has seen in 2022 they just fumbled the finals. Asset managment wasnt handled properly at all this year but Kearsey will bring in the lot from anyone. it will be bright in the future just gonna take longer that its supposed to. But it does not have to be the name of the game. No Q team should be sitting after a 2nd full on rebuild year and still not have their own 1st round pick. Thats an easy change the league just refuses to make. Why am I paying $20 to support a team when the team is willing to trade so deep that picks are gone years down the road and the inferior product now costs just as much as the good one did 2 years ago? What happens when some young GM comes in and has a radical mindset and trades picks even further out? It seems dangerous to me that the league doesn't enforce stricter protocol around the trading of picks considering its the only hope bad teams have during down seasons. And there might be no bigger kick in the gut then watching someone else draft the highly touted kid with our draft pick that we suffered for during a down season. |
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Post by davo1997 on Apr 4, 2024 10:35:00 GMT -4
It sucks for sure but the attitude to have is to support your rookies and be there managment is terrible for sure especially to not have a 1st after this season is dreadful but its the name of the game sometimes. Charlettown Had one of best Q teams the league has seen in 2022 they just fumbled the finals. Asset managment wasnt handled properly at all this year but Kearsey will bring in the lot from anyone. it will be bright in the future just gonna take longer that its supposed to. But it does not have to be the name of the game. No Q team should be sitting after a 2nd full on rebuild year and still not have their own 1st round pick. Thats an easy change the league just refuses to make. Why am I paying $20 to support a team when the team is willing to trade so deep that picks are gone years down the road and the inferior product now costs just as much as the good one did 2 years ago? What happens when some young GM comes in and has a radical mindset and trades picks even further out? It seems dangerous to me that the league doesn't enforce stricter protocol around the trading of picks considering its the only hope bad teams have during down seasons. And there might be no bigger kick in the gut then watching someone else draft the highly touted kid with our draft pick that we suffered for during a down season. i think the rule is you can trade picks up to 3 years right? Trading all three for assets to win is okay aslong as you are prepeared to recoup some the next season and thats what the islanders ultimatley failed to do. Had they won in 2022 it would have been worth it. Kearsey Michaud and sheilds next season will play like lottery picks. IMO what the Islanders do best is draft even when they dont have much they take really good players. |
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Post by dutchinc on Apr 4, 2024 10:41:28 GMT -4
We also lost players for nothing. Cormier, Trudeau for example. There’s other players that could be included as well. I think ppl forget those scenarios.
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