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Post by InsideScoop on Aug 23, 2007 11:35:18 GMT -4
He has given up the NCAA thing now has he not, hes been in camp way more then 48hours?
Atlantic Jr Hockey League, seems like a decent league. His numbers 77 pts in 42 games, is pretty close to Knox 80 somthing in 50ish games? I'm not saying we get rid of Knox, but i think Charland should be on his way out unless somthing dramatic happens tonight/this weekend.
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Aug 23, 2007 12:23:34 GMT -4
Umm...what? Cut Francis Charland because he might get hurt, in favor of a guy that played in a league it sounds like all/most of us have no idea the calibre of? Oh yeah and this guy is so small you have to wonder how long it would be before he gets hurt.
The injuries to Francis Charland last year were a broken jaw and a broken foot. I have no idea how they happened but it's not like they are knee/concussion/something-that-could-happen-repeatedly. Sure he's never played a full 70 game schedule. Alot of players don't. He's likely to get dinged up again this year, but so are players like Knox and Resendes.
Funny thing about this suggestion is I got crapped on for suggesting you cut Fullerton, a 20 year old backup goalie, for Resendes or some other 20 year old scorer. Now we got people suggesting we cut an established Q player in favor of going with 2 unproven 20's up front.
I haven't been able to watch every practice and scrimmage but I'll say this. Francis Charland has looked much better out there than Jordan Knox, the times I've been there, and I'm one of the people pulling hard for Knox to do good at this level. From what I've seen though if we had to cut one of Knox and Charland, I'd cut Knox.
I wouldn't cut Knox or Charland though. The choice to me would be whether or not to keep Fullerton as a backup versus having a third 20 year old forward.
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Post by canucklehead on Aug 23, 2007 12:36:36 GMT -4
Umm...what? Cut Francis Charland because he might get hurt, in favor of a guy that played in a league it sounds like all/most of us have no idea the calibre of? Oh yeah and this guy is so small you have to wonder how long it would be before he gets hurt. The injuries to Francis Charland last year were a broken jaw and a broken foot. I have no idea how they happened but it's not like they are knee/concussion/something-that-could-happen-repeatedly. Sure he's never played a full 70 game schedule. Alot of players don't. He's likely to get dinged up again this year, but so are players like Knox and Resendes. Funny thing about this suggestion is I got crapped on for suggesting you cut Fullerton, a 20 year old backup goalie, for Resendes or some other 20 year old scorer. Now we got people suggesting we cut an established Q player in favor of going with 2 unproven 20's up front. I haven't been able to watch every practice and scrimmage but I'll say this. Francis Charland has looked much better out there than Jordan Knox, the times I've been there, and I'm one of the people pulling hard for Knox to do good at this level. From what I've seen though if we had to cut one of Knox and Charland, I'd cut Knox. I wouldn't cut Knox or Charland though. The choice to me would be whether or not to keep Fullerton as a backup versus having a third 20 year old forward. I'm not suggesting we get rid of F. Charland but I am concerned about his health issues in the past and in training camp as well and the fact that it would be a shame to lose a guy like Resendes who would be a quality replacement. I'm not sure he'll make it because I don't see JB getting rid of Charland after he just traded to get him and your absolutely right he is a proven Q league player all the more reason for him to stick I would be shocked if he let Charland go just not gonna happen. The best option if any is to have Fullerton play Jr A and keep Mayer & Dopud and it might be possible Resendes is still here for a reason. That way they don't need to bail on Fullerton yet just incase Mayer isn't what they thought he was although I think he is guess we'll find out soon enough. |
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Post by habh8er on Aug 23, 2007 12:38:49 GMT -4
LIMH, I never said they should cut charland, but that it was another option ,which I hadn't considered..."why not".... thats all I said.."tough decision glad its not up to me" ...sure you're glad of that also.lol
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Post by canucklehead on Aug 23, 2007 12:43:32 GMT -4
In JB we trust!
Better him then me that's why he gets the bug bicks ;D
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Aug 23, 2007 12:43:35 GMT -4
Glad it's not me? Yes and no. I kinda wish it was me because I would cut Fullerton and add a third 20 year old. I'd prefer a Pridham/Peters type from Halifax though, who rumors have as possibly available, but I have no idea what price they are asking. Likely too much for us.
I'm glad it's not me though because I know how risky cutting Fullerton is, and how badly it could backfire. It would be a move that if it went wrong it causes the fans to turn against you and likely gets you fired. That's a risk I'd take though if I was confident I could get a third 20 year old that would definitely help the offense.
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Post by dogbert on Aug 23, 2007 12:47:45 GMT -4
I haven't been able to watch every practice and scrimmage but I'll say this. Francis Charland has looked much better out there than Jordan Knox, the times I've been there, and I'm one of the people pulling hard for Knox to do good at this level. From what I've seen though if we had to cut one of Knox and Charland, I'd cut Knox. In the game I saw Knox did very little, but he looked very good in yesterday's practice . He, Dido, and Liske theoretically make a very strong line; though Liske has been a bit of a puck-hog. I think they'll work it out and put up some big numbers. |
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Post by habh8er on Aug 23, 2007 12:50:45 GMT -4
Glad it's not me? Yes and no. I kinda wish it was me because I would cut Fullerton and add a third 20 year old. I'd prefer a Pridham/Peters type from Halifax though, who rumors have as possibly available, but I have no idea what price they are asking. Likely too much for us. I'm glad it's not me though because I know how risky cutting Fullerton is, and how badly it could backfire. It would be a move that if it went wrong it causes the fans to turn against you and likely gets you fired. That's a risk I'd take though if I was confident I could get a third 20 year old that would definitely help the offense. I was actually inferring that you are probably glad its not ME  |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Aug 23, 2007 12:58:16 GMT -4
Oh! Haha! Well yeah that too I suppose. I'm just in favor of taking chances, especially after missing the playoffs twice now. As the division stands right now, its going to be a war. People are banking on Cape Breton selling the farm and rebuilding but they've proven in the past not to follow that philosophy, and no way in hell CB finishes last if they keep all/most of the lineup they got now.
We need to gamble on Mayer being what he is supposed to be...better than Fullerton? Why? Because even by keeping Fullerton, I don't know if Fullerton's play would be enough to get us out of last place. Like I have said in the past we could improve from last year by 10 wins and still maybe miss the playoffs anyway.
So we need to gamble on Mayer being better than Fullerton. The bonus in that gamble is we get a third 20 year old forward into the mix and add some offense. The two combined? Likely get us in the playoffs. If the gamble fails? We miss them again. Something that might have happened anyway with Fullerton in net and no extra 20 year old forward.
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Post by killer on Aug 23, 2007 13:10:20 GMT -4
Umm...what? Cut Francis Charland because he might get hurt, in favor of a guy that played in a league it sounds like all/most of us have no idea the calibre of? Oh yeah and this guy is so small you have to wonder how long it would be before he gets hurt. The injuries to Francis Charland last year were a broken jaw and a broken foot. I have no idea how they happened but it's not like they are knee/concussion/something-that-could-happen-repeatedly. Sure he's never played a full 70 game schedule. Alot of players don't. He's likely to get dinged up again this year, but so are players like Knox and Resendes. Funny thing about this suggestion is I got crapped on for suggesting you cut Fullerton, a 20 year old backup goalie, for Resendes or some other 20 year old scorer. Now we got people suggesting we cut an established Q player in favor of going with 2 unproven 20's up front. I haven't been able to watch every practice and scrimmage but I'll say this. Francis Charland has looked much better out there than Jordan Knox, the times I've been there, and I'm one of the people pulling hard for Knox to do good at this level. From what I've seen though if we had to cut one of Knox and Charland, I'd cut Knox. I wouldn't cut Knox or Charland though. The choice to me would be whether or not to keep Fullerton as a backup versus having a third 20 year old forward. I'm not suggesting we get rid of F. Charland but I am concerned about his health issues in the past and in training camp as well and the fact that it would be a shame to lose a guy like Resendes who would be a quality replacement. I'm not sure he'll make it because I don't see JB getting rid of Charland after he just traded to get him and your absolutely right he is a proven Q league player all the more reason for him to stick I would be shocked if he let Charland go just not gonna happen. The best option if any is to have Fullerton play Jr A and keep Mayer & Dopud and it might be possible Resendes is still here for a reason. That way they don't need to bail on Fullerton yet just incase Mayer isn't what they thought he was although I think he is guess we'll find out soon enough. How the hell do you know Resendes will be a quality replacement ?? He has done nothing but put up points in a Junior "B" equivalent league This whole Renddes thing is getting alittle silly with all the hype he is getting because he looks good against a bunch of Q practice dumbies....................like I have said this entire time Resendes will soon fizzle out. The idea to cut Charland is about as crazy as cutting Gallant for Mugford. It's bad enough to start the season with 1 unproven 20 year old but 2 would be certainly come back to haunt us. I can;t wait for Resendes to get cut and end this Unwarranted hype because it is getting a bit out of hand. There are plenty of 20's vying for for spots around the league who are solid Q league players and would be a much better option. Dupod is not a Q caliber goaltender from what I have seen of him this season and last, even as backup I don;t think he could get the job done. Scary thought if Mayer went down and Dupod was tossed in the lead us to the playoffs just not a wise move |
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Post by canucklehead on Aug 23, 2007 13:18:15 GMT -4
Well Killer I've been to a bunch of practices and watched during the scrimmage which is a good start I suppose.
I never said cut Charland that's not gonna happen and I already said that. What I meant was that if injured Resendes would be a solid replacement that's just my opinion maybe I'm wrong and if I am I'll admit it.
Even if they don't use Resendes they could really use another 20 year old forward as opposed to a 20 used on a backup take the risk.
If things don't work out then call Fullerton up from Jr A
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Post by InsideScoop on Aug 23, 2007 13:27:36 GMT -4
The league Resends played in is way better then Jr.B...go look it up, you'll notice most guys on every team are playing at least D III now...out of all Nova Scotias Jr. B league last year there is only 1 playing University hockey this year and he tore the league apart. Pridham from Halifax would be interesting, his little brother goes to school here. Maybe it'd be a good fit... I haven't seen any of this Mayer kid but if he is the bonafide starter, then fullerton could be sent to Jr.A?
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Aug 23, 2007 13:27:52 GMT -4
Mostly to Killer:
1. As already stated, Resendes is looking better than a lot players we have returning from the team last year. Not just the "practice dumbies" as you put it.
2. As already stated, the preferred option over Resendes for myself would be a Peters/Pridham type player.
3. We can cut Fullerton and not use one of our current young guys as backup. I doubt acquiring an established backup would cost very much at all really. The key is it just can't be a 20 year old.
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Post by canucklehead on Aug 23, 2007 13:30:41 GMT -4
Peters from Halifax might be the best deal for us alot cheaper then Pridham I'd go for that one.
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Post by killer on Aug 23, 2007 13:32:44 GMT -4
Peters from Halifax might be the best deal for us alot cheaper then Pridham I'd go for that one. I have been saying that for a few days now..................... |
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