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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 29, 2008 22:26:41 GMT -4
I undersand that you don't have 2 lines of 8 guys that are pure offence. But in the top guys i would rather than famin as my top offensive guys are Cameron, Eagles, Brannon, Brown, Stephans, Bissonette, Lessard. Sills line plays so much because they are a great shut down line plus brannon has been scoring. the fourth line does play but if we do acquire a PPG player that is on the second line then someone would have to drop and since sill's line is playing so well you wouldn't break them up so where would famin be anyways? Even if they don't the Cat's were just fine when he was away. Common the kid was supposed to be the best belerussian at the under 18 last year and went home to Belerus for the group B WJC and got cut. Cats won't miss a beat with out him As for Flynn/AHL comment i understand about the veterans and yes there are more coaches with the AHL team all i am saying is that you have the credentials that Flynn has and the pro experience of fabian joseph ... i think the cats are fine in the coaching department. The only way the Cats don't miss a beat is if they get a PPGM 20 year old forward. Otherwise that trade makes no sense. I don't care about Team Belarus, he was scoring goals in limited ice time for the Cats and not costing anything defensively, he was +10 playing in the bottom 6. I still don't see any logical hockey reason for the Kings to send Voynov to the Cats. |
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Post by Dugger on Dec 29, 2008 22:32:28 GMT -4
I undersand that you don't have 2 lines of 8 guys that are pure offence. But in the top guys i would rather than famin as my top offensive guys are Cameron, Eagles, Brannon, Brown, Stephans, Bissonette, Lessard. Sills line plays so much because they are a great shut down line plus brannon has been scoring. the fourth line does play but if we do acquire a PPG player that is on the second line then someone would have to drop and since sill's line is playing so well you wouldn't break them up so where would famin be anyways? Even if they don't the Cat's were just fine when he was away. Common the kid was supposed to be the best belerussian at the under 18 last year and went home to Belerus for the group B WJC and got cut. Cats won't miss a beat with out him As for Flynn/AHL comment i understand about the veterans and yes there are more coaches with the AHL team all i am saying is that you have the credentials that Flynn has and the pro experience of fabian joseph ... i think the cats are fine in the coaching department. ...I still don't see any logical hockey reason for the Kings to send Voynov to the Cats. Unless there is a deal with Rimouski involving Voynov, Memorial Cup could be the drawing card. |
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Post by tal on Dec 29, 2008 23:02:38 GMT -4
...I still don't see any logical hockey reason for the Kings to send Voynov to the Cats. Unless there is a deal with Rimouski involving Voynov, Memorial Cup could be the drawing card. What drawing card? He's already drafted, he gains nothing from the exposure of the Mem Cup, and as others have pointed out, he gains nothing hockey-wise from playing Major Junior - he's shown he's ready to play at the AHL level. The only reason I can think of to move him away from Manchester (down to Junior, that is), would be an off-ice issue, where a change of scenery might benefit him. I've heard nothing and am not suggesting there is such a reason - just saying that's the only reason I could think of to justify sending Voinov to Junior. (But, would love to see him in Moncton just the same ......) |
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Post by Dugger on Dec 29, 2008 23:17:27 GMT -4
Just to speculate for a while, why would Moncton draft a Euro that at best would be here for one year (or not at all) on a team that initially wasn't considered to be a contender if not to trade that player to a team that would be in need of someone of his quality *cough*Rimouski*cough*.
Just trying to fathom out some of the decision making of the Cat's organization.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 29, 2008 23:32:31 GMT -4
Unless there is a deal with Rimouski involving Voynov, Memorial Cup could be the drawing card. What drawing card? He's already drafted, he gains nothing from the exposure of the Mem Cup, and as others have pointed out, he gains nothing hockey-wise from playing Major Junior - he's shown he's ready to play at the AHL level. The only reason I can think of to move him away from Manchester (down to Junior, that is), would be an off-ice issue, where a change of scenery might benefit him. I've heard nothing and am not suggesting there is such a reason - just saying that's the only reason I could think of to justify sending Voinov to Junior. (But, would love to see him in Moncton just the same ......) Maybe off ice he might adapt quicker with a billet than in an appartment. Maybe $$$ is a factor if the Cats pay his salary for the 2nd half, who knows. |
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Post by senators19 on Dec 29, 2008 23:47:40 GMT -4
Didn't he score on his own rebound? Yup. He pounded it off of the defencemans shinpads right back to his own stick and then slid the shot between the goalies legs. Nice quick release but not as quick as Famins'. |
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Post by sakss on Dec 29, 2008 23:51:20 GMT -4
Just to speculate for a while, why would Moncton draft a Euro that at best would be here for one year (or not at all) on a team that initially wasn't considered to be a contender if not to trade that player to a team that would be in need of someone of his quality *cough*Rimouski*cough*. Just trying to fathom out some of the decision making of the Cat's organization. We debated that question a while ago. I agree that it didnt make much sense to draft him unless there was a guarantee of him being in Moncton. And even for that, i would have drafted the best possible prospect that could have played 2 or 3 years for them. |
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Post by Sébastien on Dec 30, 2008 0:27:03 GMT -4
As far as the addition of Morgan to the Wildcats goes, couldn't be as simple as the fact that Val-d'Or wanted to open up a euro spot to acquire Famin? They already had two euros, unless I'm mistaken, which means they had to drop one to get Famin.
Instead of cutting him he could have simply been thrown into the trade. Maybe because of contract obligations, I have no idea, but I wouldn't be overly analyzing the fact that they acquired Morgan as such. Val-d'Or posters seem to say that he simply wasn't a QMJHL level player, plain and simple. I doubt we'll see him wear a Wildcats' jersey for more then a couple of games if even that.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 30, 2008 0:31:46 GMT -4
As far as the addition of Morgan to the Wildcats goes, couldn't be as simple as the fact that Val-d'Or wanted to open up a euro spot to acquire Famin? They already had two euros, unless I'm mistaken, which means they had to drop one to get Famin. Instead of cutting him he could have simply been thrown into the trade. Maybe because of contract obligations, I have no idea, but I wouldn't be overly analyzing the fact that they acquired Morgan as such. Val-d'Or posters seem to say that he simply wasn't a QMJHL level player, plain and simple. I doubt we'll see him wear a Wildcats' jersey for more then a couple of games if even that. Moragan was their only Euro. The Swedish goalie they drafted never came. Maybe the Cats think someone will want him. |
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Post by Sébastien on Dec 30, 2008 0:38:13 GMT -4
As far as the addition of Morgan to the Wildcats goes, couldn't be as simple as the fact that Val-d'Or wanted to open up a euro spot to acquire Famin? They already had two euros, unless I'm mistaken, which means they had to drop one to get Famin. Instead of cutting him he could have simply been thrown into the trade. Maybe because of contract obligations, I have no idea, but I wouldn't be overly analyzing the fact that they acquired Morgan as such. Val-d'Or posters seem to say that he simply wasn't a QMJHL level player, plain and simple. I doubt we'll see him wear a Wildcats' jersey for more then a couple of games if even that. Moragan was their only Euro. The Swedish goalie they drafted never came. Maybe the Cats think someone will want him. My bad, I thought Hazen was European. I never bothered to check.  |
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Post by 1fan on Dec 30, 2008 1:05:52 GMT -4
Just to speculate for a while, why would Moncton draft a Euro that at best would be here for one year (or not at all) on a team that initially wasn't considered to be a contender if not to trade that player to a team that would be in need of someone of his quality *cough*Rimouski*cough*. Just trying to fathom out some of the decision making of the Cat's organization. Don't over think the reasoning....I think it was a decision to try and go for it....either go for it this year or trade the player if the plans to go for fell through. Same thing happened with Filatov when a team decided to gamble on him and he made the NHL. |
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Post by morecowbell on Dec 30, 2008 1:36:57 GMT -4
Holy Crap...First of all is there anyone on this board besides Dugger And SteveUl that has any faith that the Cats brain Trust know what they are doing? There is a plan...not just for one year but for many years to come a la Gatineau...
Second of all CAREY PRICE....do you believe the crap you type? Seriously? If you were right just half as much as you are wrong you would be an NHL GM....Famin is a fringe player if he was better he wouldn't be a fringe player he would be on the top two lines and powerplay...he isn't . You fall in love with players(like Carey Price apparently) and you inflate their worth...May I point out Dube...a crappy borderline player in Moncton who you had pegged for 40 goals when they mercifully traded him( he scored a whopping 30 points after the trade). Lavoie who you cried about I think had like 19 points. Labelle who I think scored a huge 8 points after being traded...that hurt. My personal favourite of all tim ewas the dumping of Parenteau for Caron a 100 point center for a weak defenceman you had pegged as a Chris Pronger type defenceman....hahahhahahahahahahaha. Are you ever right about a player?
Just step away from the keyboard stop typing crap and realize that you don't know half as much as you think you do and you are Moncton's CHSB...congrats.
By the way thanks for the Famin getting 40 remark that is good stuff...good stuff. If he does he will outscore all the other superstars that we let go according to you....
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Post by thesource on Dec 30, 2008 7:09:44 GMT -4
???Come on carey, brown NOT defensive... do you watch the games or just spew garbage on these boards Brown is an offensive player. maybe you need more sources. Your last sentence is funny considering your 1st post.  Don't bother deflecting attention off yourself with meathead comments. My first 2 posts were merely made for humor purposes only. Now Brown has really good offensive skills but by no means is purely offensive. Quite often when he is on the ice is the first one back in his own end. Plays PK and is on his way to be one of the better 2 way players in the q at 18, and 19 year old seasons. That is all i was trying to say. Brown should not be grouped with stephens and bissonette |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 30, 2008 8:01:14 GMT -4
Brown is an offensive player. maybe you need more sources. Your last sentence is funny considering your 1st post. Don't bother deflecting attention off yourself with meathead comments. My first 2 posts were merely made for humor purposes only. Now Brown has really good offensive skills but by no means is purely offensive. Quite often when he is on the ice is the first one back in his own end. Plays PK and is on his way to be one of the better 2 way players in the q at 18, and 19 year old seasons. That is all i was trying to say. Brown should not be grouped with stephens and bissonette Not sure about being one of the better 2 way players in the Q. Brown is not bad defensively, but he was drafted to score and because he has some jam. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 30, 2008 8:05:17 GMT -4
Holy Crap...First of all is there anyone on this board besides Dugger And SteveUl that has any faith that the Cats brain Trust know what they are doing? There is a plan...not just for one year but for many years to come a la Gatineau... Second of all CAREY PRICE....do you believe the crap you type? Seriously? If you were right just half as much as you are wrong you would be an NHL GM....Famin is a fringe player if he was better he wouldn't be a fringe player he would be on the top two lines and powerplay...he isn't . You fall in love with players(like Carey Price apparently) and you inflate their worth...May I point out Dube...a crappy borderline player in Moncton who you had pegged for 40 goals when they mercifully traded him( he scored a whopping 30 points after the trade). Lavoie who you cried about I think had like 19 points. Labelle who I think scored a huge 8 points after being traded...that hurt. My personal favourite of all tim ewas the dumping of Parenteau for Caron a 100 point center for a weak defenceman you had pegged as a Chris Pronger type defenceman....hahahhahahahahahahaha. Are you ever right about a player? Just step away from the keyboard stop typing crap and realize that you don't know half as much as you think you do and you are Moncton's CHSB...congrats. By the way thanks for the Famin getting 40 remark that is good stuff...good stuff. If he does he will outscore all the other superstars that we let go according to you.... What crap do I type? State examples, feel free to quote one of my posts instead of sprewing wild BS about stuff I never said. How does getting Mitch freaking Morgan for Famin improve the Cats chances? As I said if it's linked to another trade, then it might make more sense, we'll have to see. If you have seen him play you know he can score, scoring 40 or 50 over 105 or so games(1 1/2 years) is not out of reach if he gets top 6 ice time and regular PP time. |
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