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Post by lalalaprise on Jun 28, 2009 14:56:25 GMT -4
Small goalies that go down early are not commodities that NHL teams drool over. For all OBR has done in the Q, he's not a great pro prospect. So the #2 Ranking for N.A Goalies by "Professional Scouts" that do this for a living is not worth a crap.  Rankings are rankings...they dont mean anythign when the draft starts. In a weak goalie year, Roy lasted until the 5th round. So really it doesnt matter where the CSB had him, the actual team scouts didnt like him that much, which was evidence by all 30 teams passing on him numerous times. |
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Post by canucklehead on Jun 28, 2009 21:05:11 GMT -4
Olivier Roy just needs to fill out the kid is 6 feet tall so height isn't an issue nothing wrong with bring 6 feet. It's the 167lbs but don't forget he's only not even 18 years old for a couple more weeks. As far as going down to early that can be taught and a good goaltender coach should have no trouble working with an athletic goaltender like Olivier Roy. He's still a very good goaltender and a great pick in the 5th RD for the Edmonton Oilers! I thought he'd be gone in the 3rd Round personally but at least he was drafted  Weight doesnt matter for a goalie. MAF was 6'02 166 or something when he was drafted. Josh Tordjman is 140 lbs... Which further enforces the point that he can be taught he's a very athletic goaltender it's gonna take some work to fine tune a few things but he's young I think he'll learn. Still a very good value pick for a 5th Round! |
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Post by lalalaprise on Jun 28, 2009 21:25:03 GMT -4
Weight doesnt matter for a goalie. MAF was 6'02 166 or something when he was drafted. Josh Tordjman is 140 lbs... Which further enforces the point that he can be taught he's a very athletic goaltender it's gonna take some work to fine tune a few things but he's young I think he'll learn. Still a very good value pick for a 5th Round! Im not sure id peg Roy as a very athletic goalie. His reflexes are good, his positioning is good, he has some quickness. But theres something about him that I dont like heading into pro hockey. I dont get a good gut feeling with him. But like you said, great value in round 5. |
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Post by senatorz2 on Jun 29, 2009 6:38:52 GMT -4
Congrats Roy.. this might be the steal of the draft even tho you people dont seem to be thinking that.. never know because Roy might play in the league earlier then you guys think and win the vezna some day.. All the best Roy!!
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Post by canucklehead on Jun 29, 2009 7:05:39 GMT -4
Congrats Roy.. this might be the steal of the draft even tho you people dont seem to be thinking that.. never know because Roy might play in the league earlier then you guys think and win the vezna some day.. All the best Roy!! Whoa slow down there big fella lol |
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Post by Deer on Jun 29, 2009 10:42:15 GMT -4
I'm gathering Roy may have slipped due to size concerns, and opinions that he sometimes goes down too early and could as a result get picked apart in the top corners at the pro level.
But while all of these "technical" concerns may have their value, the reason I'm surprised all 30 teams passed on Olivier so many times is because I haven't seen many athletes at this level with his will to win. Patrick Roy entered the NHL with a style that many hockey experts doubted, and didn't exactly have sparkling numbers in junior, and as a result only went 51st overall in his draft year. But he had an irrepressable will to win that made up for everything else. I'm not exactly comparing Olivier Roy to Patrick Roy, but Olivier has that burning competitive edge that you want in a goalie..... possibly moreso than any other goalie we've had. That's saying a lot considering we've had Fleury, Houle, and Pavelec. That's why I'm surprised he fell so far...... you don't get his winning attitude in just any player you draft.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 29, 2009 13:14:24 GMT -4
I'm gathering Roy may have slipped due to size concerns, and opinions that he sometimes goes down too early and could as a result get picked apart in the top corners at the pro level. But while all of these "technical" concerns may have their value, the reason I'm surprised all 30 teams passed on Olivier so many times is because I haven't seen many athletes at this level with his will to win. Patrick Roy entered the NHL with a style that many hockey experts doubted, and didn't exactly have sparkling numbers in junior, and as a result only went 51st overall in his draft year. But he had an irrepressable will to win that made up for everything else. I'm not exactly comparing Olivier Roy to Patrick Roy, but Olivier has that burning competitive edge that you want in a goalie..... possibly moreso than any other goalie we've had. That's saying a lot considering we've had Fleury, Houle, and Pavelec. That's why I'm surprised he fell so far...... you don't get his winning attitude in just any player you draft. I'm with you, but i've also came to the realization that NHL teams and scouts treat the draft a lot differently then their fans do. What NHL scout, for example, actually sees Ashton Bernard being a better hockey player then Anthony and Casavant who are both a full year behind him in their development and already better players? We've seen it in the past with other "projects" going before legitimately talented kids while players like Max Talbot who do nothing but produce get picked apart for their flaws while ignoring the painfully obvious high end skill. I've given up trying to figure out what scouts are looking for, because outside the top 30-40 picks logic goes out the window. |
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Post by Hat Trick Swayze's on Jul 7, 2009 16:09:01 GMT -4
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