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Post by Qfan69 on Jul 14, 2011 8:26:40 GMT -4
Ok here's my question now. If Nathan is so good and all and Lala you said Drouin isn't that far of, how good are these 2? Who are players that you can compare them to? Like Mackinnon is the same as Crosby(he's not I know just example). Drouin is like St-louis? I just am trying to wrap my head around there styles.
Looking at this team and models of team in the past. I do see a big comparison to Crosby's first year with Rimoski. They were young and very skilled and then the next summer grab one of the leagues best all time QB defense men. Well we all know in moose country what happened that year.
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Post by mooseinfo on Jul 14, 2011 9:00:31 GMT -4
It will come down to Goaltending for Halifax...the defense is inexperienced and Terenzio is untested as a #1...if the goaltending holds up I expect Halifax to finish in the top half of the league. Lala.....Do u think the Moose will be able to hang on all Season without a experienced Goaltender? If Terenzio can't handle the workload and they want to bring Fucale along slowly do u see them trading Terenzio and getting a veteran goalie? He certainly is getting his work in and by this article they look committed to him. www.halifaxmooseheads.ca/article/terenzio-in-good-company
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Post by defresh101 on Jul 14, 2011 9:00:44 GMT -4
How high is the ceiling on Fucale? Best goalie in the league at 19 would be his ceiling...who knows if he will reach that potential but he has a lot of things going for him...he is confident in himself, he has great character and he has top notch work ethic...the skill are evident, but in order to play goalie at this level you need some swagger and work work ethic, which he has. I realize the Mooseheads are not as good as Saint John, but we must remember a goalie gets better with the team in front of him. Now this can only go so far but look at Corbiel starting with the Moose last year to being traded to the Sea Dogs. He went from a goalie who could'nt last a 3 periods to a goalie who piled up some wins. Trenzio SHOULD br better than last year just based on the team in front of him. Makes it easier for a goalie to have a more mature Frk, Ashley, Andrews plus Drouin, MacKinnon and a Healthy Ciampini. Compared to a rookie squad with Betty(no offense to Betty) and Grant. Fucale has a way better chance adjusting to the 2011 team compared to the 2010 team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2011 10:17:30 GMT -4
Ok here's my question now. If Nathan is so good and all and Lala you said Drouin isn't that far of, how good are these 2? Who are players that you can compare them to? Like Mackinnon is the same as Crosby(he's not I know just example). Drouin is like St-louis? I just am trying to wrap my head around there styles. Looking at this team and models of team in the past. I do see a big comparison to Crosby's first year with Rimoski. They were young and very skilled and then the next summer grab one of the leagues best all time QB defense men. Well we all know in moose country what happened that year. That's what I've been comparing them too. He's followed an eerily similiar path to Sid and has potential to rip up the league and go #1 in 2013. Maybe Frk can be oir Dany Roussin, and Drouin our M-A Pouliot.... nobody right now that can fill Scalzo or Coloumbe but a D should come with time. I wouldn't mind if this team was the 2003-2005 Oceanic! ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by fireball on Jul 14, 2011 10:42:18 GMT -4
This year might be like the 97 Moosehead team, hopefully !
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Post by howitzer on Jul 14, 2011 10:55:47 GMT -4
This year might be like the 97 Moosehead team, hopefully ! Ya never know. I think we have the potential to be better then expected. If Terenzio establishes himself as a legit #1 and the defense is steady, we could have a good season. Age wise we're still a year away. However, we've got some high end young talent who have the potential to peak before the average player. Look no further then SJ this year. No one expected Phillips and Huberdeau to take off like they did. Not saying I expect a SJ type year, but the possibility exists that some of our young guys could take off as well.
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Post by lalalaprise on Jul 14, 2011 11:03:41 GMT -4
Ok here's my question now. If Nathan is so good and all and Lala you said Drouin isn't that far of, how good are these 2? Who are players that you can compare them to? Like Mackinnon is the same as Crosby(he's not I know just example). Drouin is like St-louis? I just am trying to wrap my head around there styles. Looking at this team and models of team in the past. I do see a big comparison to Crosby's first year with Rimoski. They were young and very skilled and then the next summer grab one of the leagues best all time QB defense men. Well we all know in moose country what happened that year. To be honest I dont like comparing players to established NHLers...even in style...every player is unique in their own way... The only thing I can say is Halifax added 2 of the best offensive players available in the 2011 Draft (from what ive seen, I havent seen Shea or Erne). Drouin and MacKinnon are also chippy, they compete, they have leadership abilities, they skate well, they are top notch in terms of smarts, they can score just as well as they can set guys up... They arent your typical soft, peremitre type offensive players...they get involved and go to the dirty area's to get shit done...these are the kind of players I like...to me Drouin is 5'08 but he plays like a bull, he has fire to his game and he competes...his size isnt going to be an issue at all at this level.
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Post by howitzer on Jul 14, 2011 11:07:19 GMT -4
Ok here's my question now. If Nathan is so good and all and Lala you said Drouin isn't that far of, how good are these 2? Who are players that you can compare them to? Like Mackinnon is the same as Crosby(he's not I know just example). Drouin is like St-louis? I just am trying to wrap my head around there styles. Looking at this team and models of team in the past. I do see a big comparison to Crosby's first year with Rimoski. They were young and very skilled and then the next summer grab one of the leagues best all time QB defense men. Well we all know in moose country what happened that year. To be honest I dont like comparing players to established NHLers...even in style...every player is unique in their own way... The only think I can say is Halifax added 2 of the best offensive players available in the 2011 Draft (from what ive seen, I havent seen Shea or Erne). Drouin and MacKinnon are also chippy, they compete, they have leadership abilities, they skate well, they are top notch in terms of smarts, they can score just as well as they can set guys up... They arent your typical soft, peremitre type offensive players...they get involved and go to the dirty area's to shit done...these are the kind of players I like...to me Drouin is 5'08 but he plays like a bull, he has fire to his game and he competes...his size isnt going to be an issue at all at this level. Is it fair or unfair to expect both these guys to contribute right away? Not so much lead the team offensively, but consistently produce? These 2 aren't your "typical" rookies right? Or do we need to just back off on expectations a bit?
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Post by lalalaprise on Jul 14, 2011 11:10:28 GMT -4
To be honest I dont like comparing players to established NHLers...even in style...every player is unique in their own way... The only think I can say is Halifax added 2 of the best offensive players available in the 2011 Draft (from what ive seen, I havent seen Shea or Erne). Drouin and MacKinnon are also chippy, they compete, they have leadership abilities, they skate well, they are top notch in terms of smarts, they can score just as well as they can set guys up... They arent your typical soft, peremitre type offensive players...they get involved and go to the dirty area's to shit done...these are the kind of players I like...to me Drouin is 5'08 but he plays like a bull, he has fire to his game and he competes...his size isnt going to be an issue at all at this level. Is it fair or unfair to expect both these guys to contribute right away? Not so much lead the team offensively, but consistently produce? These 2 aren't your "typical" rookies right? Or do we need to just back off on expectations a bit? To put things in perspective...Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Brett Connelly, Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, etc etc...all put up over a ppg in their 16 year old season....if MacKinnon cant do that than he probably isnt as good as a lot of people think... I think MacKinnon will produce right away and be one of Halifax best players night in and night out....Drouin will probably go through some rookie lumps, maybe some 4th line time, but then he will get put on a scoring like an dhave 7 pts in 3 games...that sort of thing...more of an up and down year.
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Post by howitzer on Jul 14, 2011 11:13:04 GMT -4
Is it fair or unfair to expect both these guys to contribute right away? Not so much lead the team offensively, but consistently produce? These 2 aren't your "typical" rookies right? Or do we need to just back off on expectations a bit? To put things in perspective...Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Brett Connelly, Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, etc etc...all put up over a ppg in their 16 year old season....if MacKinnon cant do that than he probably isnt as good as a lot of people think... I think MacKinnon will produce right away and be one of Halifax best players night in and night out....Drouin will probably go through some rookie lumps, maybe some 4th line time, but then he will get put on a scoring like an dhave 7 pts in 3 games...that sort of thing...more of an up and down year. Ya ok. Pretty much what I'm expecting as well. I think we'll see MacKinnon at 80-90 pts this year.
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Post by canbeer on Jul 14, 2011 11:18:42 GMT -4
It will come down to Goaltending for Halifax...the defense is inexperienced and Terenzio is untested as a #1...if the goaltending holds up I expect Halifax to finish in the top half of the league. I think your point remains true it terms of goaltending being vital with a... average... D squad in front Terenzio but I don't think inexperienced is the right word. Experience is kind of their saving grace with Gillard, Abeltshauser and Hannay entering their 3rd year, Lewis, Goulet.... maybe Parisien. Sort of different from the rest of them team, experienced but a lack of high end abilities.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Jul 14, 2011 13:38:25 GMT -4
Ok here's my question now. If Nathan is so good and all and Lala you said Drouin isn't that far of, how good are these 2? Who are players that you can compare them to? Like Mackinnon is the same as Crosby(he's not I know just example). Drouin is like St-louis? I just am trying to wrap my head around there styles. Looking at this team and models of team in the past. I do see a big comparison to Crosby's first year with Rimoski. They were young and very skilled and then the next summer grab one of the leagues best all time QB defense men. Well we all know in moose country what happened that year. To be honest I dont like comparing players to established NHLers...even in style...every player is unique in their own way... The only thing I can say is Halifax added 2 of the best offensive players available in the 2011 Draft (from what ive seen, I havent seen Shea or Erne). Drouin and MacKinnon are also chippy, they compete, they have leadership abilities, they skate well, they are top notch in terms of smarts, they can score just as well as they can set guys up... They arent your typical soft, peremitre type offensive players...they get involved and go to the dirty area's to get shit done...these are the kind of players I like...to me Drouin is 5'08 but he plays like a bull, he has fire to his game and he competes...his size isnt going to be an issue at all at this level. So maybe can we get you back to being a moosehead fan, since you are a big fan of these guys? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by howitzer on Jul 14, 2011 14:41:05 GMT -4
To be honest I dont like comparing players to established NHLers...even in style...every player is unique in their own way... The only thing I can say is Halifax added 2 of the best offensive players available in the 2011 Draft (from what ive seen, I havent seen Shea or Erne). Drouin and MacKinnon are also chippy, they compete, they have leadership abilities, they skate well, they are top notch in terms of smarts, they can score just as well as they can set guys up... They arent your typical soft, peremitre type offensive players...they get involved and go to the dirty area's to get shit done...these are the kind of players I like...to me Drouin is 5'08 but he plays like a bull, he has fire to his game and he competes...his size isnt going to be an issue at all at this level. So maybe can we get you back to being a moosehead fan, since you are a big fan of these guys? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) He'll always bleed Moose colours.....but good luck trying to get him to admit it LOL.
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Post by Smiley on Jul 14, 2011 17:43:24 GMT -4
So maybe can we get you back to being a moosehead fan, since you are a big fan of these guys? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) He'll always bleed Moose colours.....but good luck trying to get him to admit it LOL. What, Lala bleeds green? So lala is in fact a Vulcan. I always thought he was. :-)
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Post by MikeC on Jul 14, 2011 18:10:27 GMT -4
To put things in perspective...Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Brett Connelly, Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, etc etc...all put up over a ppg in their 16 year old season....if MacKinnon cant do that than he probably isnt as good as a lot of people think... RNH and Connolly were under a PPG as 16 year olds; barely under but still under (RNH: 65 PTS in 67 GP, Connolly 60 in 65). Hall was way over 84 in 63 and Seguin was 67 in 61.
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