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Post by canbeer on Aug 31, 2007 7:36:38 GMT -4
Can anyone say how, Smith vs. Main, Bona vs. Cliche and Goyens vs. Lessard went?
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Post by themagician on Aug 31, 2007 8:40:25 GMT -4
This PEI board is the worst around for recapping fights.
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Post by Score on Aug 31, 2007 8:43:25 GMT -4
This PEI board is the worst around for recapping fights. We go for the hockey, unlike the fans in SJ......... The fights? There were all crap IMO....very little punches thrown. |
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Post by habs24 on Aug 31, 2007 8:47:27 GMT -4
This PEI board is the worst around for recapping fights. Thats because we probably lost them all. |
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Post by mboyan on Aug 31, 2007 8:56:31 GMT -4
Comments like that show hoe little you actually uderstand about this game.  It's comments like yours, Score, that keep some knowledgeable fans (certainly not me!  ) from posting. While lataliberte's opinion, based on one game, may, or may not, be off the mark, it is his opinion, and he's entitled to it. |
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Post by Score on Aug 31, 2007 9:20:29 GMT -4
Comments like that show hoe little you actually uderstand about this game. It's comments like yours, Score, that keep some knowledgeable fans (certainly not me! ) from posting. While lataliberte's opinion, based on one game, may, or may not, be off the mark, it is his opinion, and he's entitled to it. As you said, it is his opinion. Just as it is mine. To make a comment like that, at this time, IMO shows very little. Have a good one. |
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Post by canbeer on Aug 31, 2007 9:24:24 GMT -4
Most of us go to watch the game but we do find the fights interesting, some want it out of the game... no big deal.
As a Moose fan, and like other Moose fans, I'm wondering if the team is going to be gritty and tough enough this year. Smith and Bona are two of the guys that some are hoping will step in that side of the game... so I was just wondering how they did. I think them dropping the gloves is likely a bit in respones to Voracek dropping them the other night. Goyens is the new guy so I'm wondering how he did as well. It's just nice to have a bit of a recap about your team when you can't see the game.
If all the fights were nothing draws then fine.
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Post by Score on Aug 31, 2007 9:27:55 GMT -4
Most of us go to watch the game but we do find the fights interesting, some want it out of the game... no big deal. As a Moose fan, and like other Moose fans, I'm wondering if the team is going to be gritty and tough enough this year. Smith and Bona are two of the guys that some are hoping will step in that side of the game... so I was just wondering how they did. I think them dropping the gloves is likely a bit in respones to Voracek dropping them the other night. Goyens is the new guy so I'm wondering how he did as well. It's just nice to have a bit of a recap about your team when you can't see the game. If all the fights were nothing draws then fine. IMO most, if not all the fights were "nothing" sraps......but i usually don't do a solid fight recap, reason to why I never did for these ones. Im sure someone will do a decent recap......ala HF99 or someone. |
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Post by wingman on Aug 31, 2007 10:33:01 GMT -4
Most of us go to watch the game but we do find the fights interesting, some want it out of the game... no big deal. As a Moose fan, and like other Moose fans, I'm wondering if the team is going to be gritty and tough enough this year. Smith and Bona are two of the guys that some are hoping will step in that side of the game... so I was just wondering how they did. I think them dropping the gloves is likely a bit in respones to Voracek dropping them the other night. Goyens is the new guy so I'm wondering how he did as well. It's just nice to have a bit of a recap about your team when you can't see the game. If all the fights were nothing draws then fine. The fights were ok, but one thing that I did notice about the Mooseheads was that they were sticking up for each other. There were a couple of borderline hits on them and when there was, there was always a Halifax player right there sticking up for him, which is something that the Rocket lacked last season. Not sure if that is what you are looking for but it was something that was noticed by a few people. |
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Post by Stuck in a Loop... on Aug 31, 2007 12:00:08 GMT -4
Didnt see the other fights but saw the CLiche fight, not sure youd call it a fight dont think Cliche got in any punches but the moosehead did 1 or 2 maybe it was more like dancing with Hockey players lol
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Post by countryboy on Aug 31, 2007 12:08:15 GMT -4
Every so often you go to an exhibition game with a... ho hum... still nice summer weather outside evening... attitude and you get treated to a game that's intense, physical and exciting. Certainly, the bad blood from the previous exhibition game in Halifax, combined with the fact that both teams dressed fairly strong lineups added fuel to the flame. I'll have to admit that even though it was only a nothing exhibition game, I jumped from my seat when Walker tied it up in the last 10 seconds. Last night was the type of game we need. It was the type of game where a casual fan might say.... 'man, that was exciting.... I should think about picking up tickets to the home opener and plan to go to a few games this fall'.
Anyway, here's my rundown of what I saw from the Rocket and the Herd....
Game started off with a bang, for sure. Main ran Smith from behind in the Rocket end and Smith was right in his face looking for retribution. Though it's completely irrelevant, off topic and meaningless in situation, I'll drop in Daniel Smith... cough, cough... Sebastien Laferriere, cough cough. Now that that's out of my system... It was a decent scrap. In my opinion, the best of the night with both guys landing a few shots. The most dramatic part of the fight was one fighter (not sure who) snapped off the other's visor with a shot. That drew a gasp from the CCC faithful. Hard to call it anything but a draw.
Shortly there after Cliche smoked someone from the Mooseheads in the Halifax end and Bona stepped right in and challenged Cliche. Cliche responded, but this was basically a hugfest, as the two big guys basically grappled for position using their strength. When Cliche's sweater came over his head, Bona let up and the linesemen intervened. Probably have to give the decision to Cliche for landing a couple of shots while jostling and tieng Cliche up in his sweater to the point where he couldn't do anything.
A few minutes later, Lessard through a hard hit near the penalty box and Goyens jumped in to defend his teammate. Lessard was game to stand up to the challenge, but I thought Goyens had the better of him.
By that point, we were five minutes in and three fight down, with the latter two being duds. I figured by that point the rough stuff was probably done for the night, with the exhibition fight rule quickly approaching.
The game was back and forth with both teams taking chances looking for the opener. It was the kind of first period where you got the sense that the first goal might go a long way.
The second period was kind of a dud and the Moose outplayed the Rocket. You kind of forget about the second due to the fact it was sandwiched between an exciting first and a rally in the 3rd by the Rocket.
Both teams had a lot of chances where bad bounces and/or pucks sliding past the far post were the end result of offensive opportunities. As well as both goaltenders played, both teams missed and had bad luck with a number of good chances.
I wasn't aware that OT games in exhibition went right to the shootout. At that point I knew we were probably toast, being that we had an inexperienced rookie in nets whereas Halifax had a guy with some experience there. Experience goes a long, long way for goaltenders in shootout situations.
The Mooseheads have a good second Euro in Knotek. He and Voracek looked good together. A comment on the Moose board pointed out his decent numbers in the faceoff circle. I noticed him being strong on defensive zone draws. In one sequence, he beat Morrison and Doyle (two quality faceoff guys) in consecutive draws.
Gelinas put up an impressive and surprising performance in his first showing with the Rocket. It was hard to tell just how much good luck was helping him out last night. He is an acrobatic, floppy goaltender who seems to be all over the place. Plus, he's small, so he doesn't cover the net. His goaltending style reminds me of the way some guys played nets in the late 80s in the NHL. Think of small, quick, acrobatic (and mediocre) guys like ... ok, going way out there... Allan Bester, Pokey Reddick, Daniel Berthiaume, Don Beaupre.
So, as much as Gelinas is unorthodox and difficult to assess, you can't argue the fact he stopped 40+, kept the Rocket in the game in the 2nd and garnered the first star. I know we're all looking at him as goaltending depth and that Mosher has much more upside, but if Gingras continues playing like he did last night, Mosher will need to put in a strong performance at some point in exhibition. Personally, I haven't seen a performance from Mosher to see his potential upside, simply because he played so infrequently (especially at home) last season. The backup job is still Mosher's to lose, and losing it is unlikely, but Gingras quickly made a name for himself last evening.
I, like Score, like the way Main plays. We've never really had one of those really hateable players from an opposition's point of view. I know he's dirty, and we'll see him hit more people from behind, but he adds an agitator's element we haven't seen in a Rocket uniform.
I really think Malouin is in a fight for icetime. What got him on the team as a 16 year old was keeping things simple, staying with his man and getting the puck out off the boards. There isn't a lot of upside to his game. Now, he's competing for work against rookies who aren't as big, but have more offensive upside. I see Malouin making poor decisions and not thinking with the puck. It looks as if he's feeling the heat from the likes of Deighan, Clow and Owens. I guess he's with us for now, because the CEGEP rules would likely apply to him, but as of now, it looks like he could end up lost somewhere in the shuffle. He needs to have a couple of good games next week vs. Moncton.
Deighan played like a 17 year old last night and we'll have games like that from him and Clow if we keep them. He was slower getting to the puck by times and rushed a couple of passes. Such is the life of 17 y/o's in the Q. But, he got a lot of power play time and I thought he looked good on the power play. He moves the puck with much more confidence 5 on 4 compared to even strength. Trends in the Q tend to follow trends in the NHL and you look at some of these PP specialist defencemen out there now (MA Bergeron, Tom Preissing, Joe Corvo) and Deighan looks to be along those lines. I think he's still got the inside track on a spot on the blueline.
I think Lucas McKinley might be sort of in tough along the lines of Malouin as difficult decisions approach. We haven't seen his knack for the net in exhibition play like was saw in last year's exhibition games. I see him trying to play more physical and his offensive game is suffering. Plus, he appeared to suffer an injury in the 1st that took him out of the game. He, like Malouin needs a couple of good games next week.
Kana had a couple of decent chances last night once again. I definitely think we've found a good one in him.
A big question mark is surrouding Schmidt. He's doing what he needs to do to make the team and that is producing offense every night he plays. Still, you look at his last years stats and the offensive production is really meagre. Plus, things don't quite add up if he makes this team based on his offense in exhibition but then gets put on a 3rd/4th line role (because that's where he's destined... he won't play on our top 2 lines ahead of guys like Locke and Lachaine). I think that there's probably going to end up being one job for DesRoches or Schmidt and the management will have to decide between the 17 y/o local with some offensive talents or the 19 y/o with little experience in the Q who gets on the board in every exhibition game he's played. It would be a tough call.
I like the fact that Cliche is willing to play physical and drop the gloves. With his size, he always has the option to do what he did last night and just hang on and try to tire his opponent out. I don't think he's going to be a Q heavyweight scrapper, but he will be able fare out satisfactory in most fights he gets into because he's so big and strong. Cliche had a couple of decent chances last night too, where he got his quick shot away. Did anybody else notice last night that it looked as if Cliche was using a longer stick. He didn't seem to be as hunched over when he was skating, I thought.
MacLean and Street looked a little lost out there and didn't see a lot of time becasue there was so much special teams play. MacLean's first round draft status and size will likely keep him on the team over Street. After that, Street is likely battling with Coon-Come for a roster spot on opening day... thought you could also say that Coon-Come is in the mix against DesRoches and Schmidt for a spot in the lineup Sept. 14.
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Post by Score on Aug 31, 2007 12:18:51 GMT -4
Awesome run down CB....
and yes, I am a big fan of Main. He's very aggresive, and as you said, we here could use a player like him. He's a keeper!
Thought that Swit looked just average last night again. With Mains solid play, could this be the chance the Rocket have to let Swit go and go after a 20yr old FW??
Lessard-Southy
Gervais-Clow
Main-Deighan/Malouin
Owens
or do you think that D lineup is to inexperienced?
Love seeing Main, Kana and Paynter out their banging and crashing.
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Post by wingman on Aug 31, 2007 12:46:28 GMT -4
I would be hesitant to put Clow in the top 4 pairing right now, I think he would be better suited on the third pairing for at least the start of the season.
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Post by Score on Aug 31, 2007 12:48:12 GMT -4
I would be hesitant to put Clow in the top 4 pairing right now, I think he would be better suited on the third pairing for at least the start of the season. Oh I agree.......I should have made it clear that this could wait to get done at the Christmas deadline. |
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Post by countryboy on Aug 31, 2007 13:07:17 GMT -4
What 20s might be available? I know Baie-Comeau didn't move Picard-Hooper before his deadline of the August trading period, but I wonder if he'd play if his rights are moved in the fall. I know he's committed to McGill, but you can leave your university team to play junior.... Yannick Charron left Carleton to play in Drummondville or Rimouski as a 20? I wouldn't wait till Christmas. I'd be on the ball and deal for Picard-Hooper now and get a jump on everyone else. cb Awesome run down CB.... and yes, I am a big fan of Main. He's very aggresive, and as you said, we here could use a player like him. He's a keeper! Thought that Swit looked just average last night again. With Mains solid play, could this be the chance the Rocket have to let Swit go and go after a 20yr old FW?? Lessard-Southy Gervais-Clow Main-Deighan/Malouin Owens or do you think that D lineup is to inexperienced? Love seeing Main, Kana and Paynter out their banging and crashing. |
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