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Post by jboyz on May 17, 2014 21:54:06 GMT -4
Yes heard that with Brassard , a Quebec web site has a three way trade with Quebec, drummondville and the eagles involving a bunch of players. They said one or two young defenseman, going to drummondville, Darcy to Quebec and Brassard and another forward coming our way. Can't see it, no need to get a 20 year old goalie, also who are you moving, Leveille, Lalonde or Bell? This team according to Coach Dumont is going for it the following year, find a young goalie, maybe draft one and you would have to give a lot of ice to those three defense. Anyway like the thread says, rumors. What website?
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Post by seagle on May 18, 2014 0:25:37 GMT -4
Still puzzled by why at this stage we need a 20 year old goaltender, this really baffles me. The same thing happened last year by bringing in Legace, causing us to lose a good 20 year old forward (Michael Clarke). I really think Dumont has done a very commendable job since he arrived here, but i am really exasperated by his handling of the goaltenders. Yup. We pretty much know that we acquired Val D'ors pick for ours in a series of moves So with them in the running information will be tighter until after the Mem Cup. I would think that a replacement would be in place for Bureau before he was moved. So we will just have to wait it out. A 20 year old goalie makes no sense.......at this point anyway. edit Upon further review. Some form of swap of 20's would make sense. But the cost of a goalie for next year will have to be part of the equation
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Post by jboyz on May 20, 2014 22:12:06 GMT -4
Any idea who we take when we get the 13th pick? Possibly a defensemen?
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Post by seagle on May 22, 2014 18:13:23 GMT -4
IF..... there is any validity to the Q central scouting.
They have Balmas at 11. I could be wrong here but would that make him the highest ranked caper ever going into the Q draft. I like the thoughts of that.
I look at our 3? remaining 2nd Rd picks as trade bait. Perhaps using one to trade up again.
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Post by seαωo|f on May 22, 2014 18:22:30 GMT -4
Any idea who we take when we get the 13th pick? Possibly a defensemen? Guillaume Beck would be nice. If I were Eagles GM, I'd pick Fitzgerald 5th and Balmas 13th if he's still around (which I think he will be). If Balmas isn't around, I'd pick P-L Dubois - son of Oceanic asst. coach, Eric Dubois.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 22, 2014 23:06:56 GMT -4
IF..... there is any validity to the Q central scouting. They have Balmas at 11. I could be wrong here but would that make him the highest ranked caper ever going into the Q draft. I like the thoughts of that. I look at our 3? remaining 2nd Rd picks as trade bait. Perhaps using one to trade up again. Aaron Johnson went 9th to Rimouski in 99.
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Post by jamesnorris on May 23, 2014 9:52:07 GMT -4
Any idea who we take when we get the 13th pick? Possibly a defensemen? Guillaume Beck would be nice. If I were Eagles GM, I'd pick Fitzgerald 5th and Balmas 13th if he's still around (which I think he will be). If Balmas isn't around, I'd pick P-L Dubois - son of Oceanic asst. coach, Eric Dubois. Balmas isn't dropping out of the top 8. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he went before CB picked at 5. CSR might have him low but CSR don't watch the Cape Breton Tradesmen too often haha If those were the CB targets, I could see them doing the opposite of what you just said. Pick Balmas at 5 and then go for Fitzpatrick at 13 (or move up using all those picks they have) People are putting too much stock in the CSR list and forgetting how often goalies drop despite being the clear cut top goalie in the draft. Teams are moving away from picking goalies high in the first round because their so difficult to project properly. Mason McDonald was ranked #7 and dropped to 20 two years ago. Dumont was in Val d'Or the last time a goalie was picked top 5, it was Francois Tremblay. He's an alright goalie but they could have had a top skater and went for a goalie like Domenic Graham, Carl Hozjan, Antoine Bibeau, Brandon Whitney, Sebastien Auger, or Jacob Brennan way later in the draft.
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Post by statsman18 on May 23, 2014 10:38:30 GMT -4
Guillaume Beck would be nice. If I were Eagles GM, I'd pick Fitzgerald 5th and Balmas 13th if he's still around (which I think he will be). If Balmas isn't around, I'd pick P-L Dubois - son of Oceanic asst. coach, Eric Dubois. Balmas isn't dropping out of the top 8. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he went before CB picked at 5. CSR might have him low but CSR don't watch the Cape Breton Tradesmen too often haha If those were the CB targets, I could see them doing the opposite of what you just said. Pick Balmas at 5 and then go for Fitzpatrick at 13 (or move up using all those picks they have) People are putting too much stock in the CSR list and forgetting how often goalies drop despite being the clear cut top goalie in the draft. Teams are moving away from picking goalies high in the first round because their so difficult to project properly. Mason McDonald was ranked #7 and dropped to 20 two years ago. Dumont was in Val d'Or the last time a goalie was picked top 5, it was Francois Tremblay. He's an alright goalie but they could have had a top skater and went for a goalie like Domenic Graham, Carl Hozjan, Antoine Bibeau, Brandon Whitney, Sebastien Auger, or Jacob Brennan way later in the draft. I've talked to people in the hockey world around here and everyone has said that Fitzpatrick is the real deal. Also they have said Balmas has fallen off. Good but just didn't keep up his pace. I think your over valuing what you might have seen and not have seen. I think there's a chance Balmas falls to 13. I don't however see Fitzpatrick fall to 10. And as for your argument with Mason MacDonald that could be the worst example. There 17 other team that wish they picked him instead of letting him go to AB at 20. Look at him now.
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Post by jamesnorris on May 23, 2014 11:06:39 GMT -4
I've talked to people in the hockey world around here and everyone has said that Fitzpatrick is the real deal. Also they have said Balmas has fallen off. Good but just didn't keep up his pace. I think your over valuing what you might have seen and not have seen. I think there's a chance Balmas falls to 13. I don't however see Fitzpatrick fall to 10. And as for your argument with Mason MacDonald that could be the worst example. There 17 other team that wish they picked him instead of letting him go to AB at 20. Look at him now. Mason McDonald is actually a perfect example if you understood what I was saying. Like Fitzpatrick he was the clear cut top goalie in the draft, he was coming out of NSMMHL (underscouted by most of the league), he was ranked high on the CSR list, and a lot of people thought he was going to be the real deal which he's proving to be. That didn't stop teams from passing on him though. That's because there's a long list of goalies drafted in the later rounds that prove to be quality QMJHL starters. I find it unlikely that teams will change their philosophy on goalies in the first round for Fitzpatrick based on McDonald's success... they're two different guys. Based on that logic McDonald should have been taken high because Fucale was an 11th overall pick. I'm not saying I agree with it and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a team gambled a high pick on him, I'm just saying that's the trend and don't be surprised if he's the one dropping. As for Balmas, anyone who thinks he fell off haven't paid close attention. He was on a Tradesmen team that won 5 games all year because they were so bad and yet he still finished with 46 points in 29 games. Add in 8 points in 4 games at the Don Johnson Cup with Strait Pirates against way better teams where he was often the best player on the ice and another 8 points in 5 games at the QGC where he lived up to his high ranking by independent scouting services. I find it way more likely that a team would pick him early. CSR are the only ones dropping Balmas and they're not exactly competent.
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