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Post by Score on Oct 9, 2007 22:24:12 GMT -4
Pretty sure a team can carry 4 20yrs olds until Christmas.....but only allowed to dress 3. No reason to hang onto Swit until then......give the ice time to deighan and Clow. I know Swit hasnt been very good (and definately not a good 20 in the league), but he ~was~ an experienced defenseman. Now you lose him, and go with an even younger defense, to add a 3rd liner (at best) on a team where Jean doesnt play his bench. It seems like your already last place team just lost a bit more. Do you think, 9 games in, that the rocket are heading towards a selling mode? Main who is 19 will move back to the blueline I am guesing. Lessard(19)-Southorn(17) Gervais(19)-Clow(17) Main(19)- Deighan(17) Malouin(17) and No........by losing Swit the Rocket shouldn't fall back any. It will just give more ice time to Clow and Deighan, who both showed that they are just as good as Swit IMO. Jean needs to play the bench, we all know that. I am just hoping that with the addition of Gallant (who can actually play) that Jean feels more comfortable with throwin the 3rd line out more often........ No, I don't think the Rocket Brass are thinking "selling" right now. Come Christmas time, im sure they'll evaluate their team/options and go from there. If they are still struggling........im sure Savard will listen to offers for Morrison. The way I see it......the Rocket are better off with Gallant then they were with Swit. Neither will make this team a contender, but Gallant is a better overall option then Swit.
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Post by wingman on Oct 10, 2007 5:21:08 GMT -4
If Savard and Jean wanted to give more ice time to Clow and Deighan, they don't have to get rid of Swit to do that, all they simply had to do was not dress him. There isn't a rule saying that you have to dress all 3 of your 20 yr olds.
If anything, the trade for Gallant makes me wonder what Savard is actually trying to accomplish. Picard-Hooper could have been acquired and eventually one of Ryan, Bergeron or Lacroix from the Remparts is going to be available. Picard-Hooper and Lacroix are top 6 forwards that the Rocket sorely need while Bergeron or Ryan could have been that solid experienced defenseman that the Rocket also need. But instead Savard goes out and gets a 4th line player, a 3rd line player at best. The 3rd and 4th line players that we have now are already not getting enough ice time as it is, so they acquire another one. Getting Gallant does bring more toughness to the team, but isn't that what Main and Paynter have already been doing and been doing well?
If Gallant would have been from Nova Scotia or Quebec instead of being a local player, would people have liked this trade? Last year Swit had more points than Gallant. I'm not saying that Gallant is a crappy player or anything, but Savard could have made better use of the 20 yr old spot again.
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Post by Fusion on Oct 10, 2007 6:42:41 GMT -4
This doesn't make any sense... at all. Jeezus!
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Post by rocketlauncher on Oct 10, 2007 7:25:02 GMT -4
I don't think it was a bad decision. He only gave a up a 12th ound pick for Gallant. Theres no guarantee him or Swit will still be with the team at Christmas, but in the meantime, he can evaluate to see if he adds something to the team. As for adding an impact player, it could always be a 19n year old....does not necessarilly have be a 20 or if neither Swit not Gallant work out...add a 20 and cut both of them
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Post by rocketlauncher on Oct 10, 2007 7:32:27 GMT -4
My questio now is who goes to open up a spot for Gallant.....wondering if it will be Wright or DesRoches or Schmidt
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Post by Krang7 on Oct 10, 2007 7:55:12 GMT -4
Wright seems to be the logical choice. He'd be better served playing Junior A and then becoming a more prominent tough guy for us next year. No need to carry a 17 year old when you have a 20 year old who can do the exact same thing, except better.
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Post by Krang7 on Oct 10, 2007 8:07:26 GMT -4
I really like this move, even though it may not seem completely logical at the moment. I know that it's not necessarily an upgrade on our 20 spot, it does a number of things, a few that people are missing, I think. 1) Provides depth up front, which we don't have much of. I'm not saying that he's going to provide much secondary offence or anything along those lines, but he'll be a veteran set of legs to throw out there and give our top guys a rest (if Jean will use him, which remains to be seen). 2) A tough, physical presence who will drop the gloves when needed which, frankly, we don't have. I like Paynter and Main a ton, but they can't be called on to do that, that's just not their game. 3) He will be a fan favorite and will put butts in the seats that may not have normally been there, I guarantee that. 4) He provides a veteran leadership presence in the room and on the ice that by all accounts our other 20 year old acquisition was not. Certainly not on the ice as we could all see. 5) He'll give us a lot more stability in our final 20 spot if we can't upgrade at Christmas. I agree with the sentiment that he isn't going to help put us over the top, not even close. However I'd much rather be stuck with him then Swit if something can't be worked out, wouldn't you? If nothing else, the kid's got an excellent last name!
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Post by rocketlauncher on Oct 10, 2007 8:40:08 GMT -4
Great post Krang. Excellent points!
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Post by Stuck in a Loop... on Oct 10, 2007 13:00:07 GMT -4
3) He will be a fan favorite and will put butts in the seats that may not have normally been there, I guarantee that. I dont really agree he will put more butts in the seats, maybe the season ticket holders who dont show up to every game may come now but for the fans who are touch and go and arent really following the Rocket now due to our great preformance so far, they could really care less, he may get a few extra tickets sold but nothing to brag about and face it the price which still is in question for the tickets is too high for this poor of a product right now, only way we get more fans in the seats is come playoff timee and we are in the top 3 of our division and have a chance of going somewheres but thats a bit off
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 10, 2007 16:50:15 GMT -4
3) He will be a fan favorite and will put butts in the seats that may not have normally been there, I guarantee that. I dont really agree he will put more butts in the seats, maybe the season ticket holders who dont show up to every game may come now but for the fans who are touch and go and arent really following the Rocket now due to our great preformance so far, they could really care less, he may get a few extra tickets sold but nothing to brag about and face it the price which still is in question for the tickets is too high for this poor of a product right now, only way we get more fans in the seats is come playoff timee and we are in the top 3 of our division and have a chance of going somewheres but thats a bit off Yup. Every time a team acquires a fighter, whether heavyweight, middleweight or whatever some fans go on about how many people will now buy tickets. While there may be a few people waiting for your team to acquire a physical presence before buying tickets, the amount of tickets actually sold because of him being on the team is VERY small. Especially when you consider the types of budgets these teams work on.
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Post by rocketfan44 on Oct 10, 2007 17:21:34 GMT -4
I've finally just gave up trying to figure out what this organization does, and why they do it.
Hoping now to just get a few points this weekend in Quebec.
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Post by nolman29 on Oct 10, 2007 17:24:36 GMT -4
What number will he be wearing? His number was 11 in Cape Breton but Latal has it. I think he'll take Street's #16 jersey.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 10, 2007 18:41:52 GMT -4
Its simple on D now ... cut Swit and dress Bobby Little.
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Post by topcon81 on Oct 10, 2007 18:42:08 GMT -4
I personally yhink that this is a good move by the rocket brass... most of you said last year that after adding lafferier the team played better because the guys didnt have to worry about all the cheap shots and could concentrate on playing hockey. I am sure that Gallant will provide the same thing for the guys this year. As for filling the seats I dont think it will happen , sure everyone loves to see a great tilt , but they also want to see a winning team , and if jean doesnt get rid of swit and atart playing dieghan and clowe more this wont happen....with locke injured gallant should get to play if jean starts using the bench which i think will povide some great offense and defense , if he doesnt use the bench soon he should be benched like his 3rd and 4th line
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Post by Krang7 on Oct 10, 2007 18:49:08 GMT -4
I dont really agree he will put more butts in the seats, maybe the season ticket holders who dont show up to every game may come now but for the fans who are touch and go and arent really following the Rocket now due to our great preformance so far, they could really care less, he may get a few extra tickets sold but nothing to brag about and face it the price which still is in question for the tickets is too high for this poor of a product right now, only way we get more fans in the seats is come playoff timee and we are in the top 3 of our division and have a chance of going somewheres but thats a bit off Yup. Every time a team acquires a fighter, whether heavyweight, middleweight or whatever some fans go on about how many people will now buy tickets. While there may be a few people waiting for your team to acquire a physical presence before buying tickets, the amount of tickets actually sold because of him being on the team is VERY small. Especially when you consider the types of budgets these teams work on. Difference is though is this kid is an Islander, and he comes here with a bigger reputation then any fighter we've ever acquired because of it. It won't make a huge difference, but it will make some.
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