topnet
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Dec 11, 2014 20:00:53 GMT -4
Post by topnet on Dec 11, 2014 20:00:53 GMT -4
Strange... McQuaid isn't playing tonight and there was no mention of an injury. Neither is Moody. Let the speculation run wild! McQuaid Moody, and a pick for Sweeney? Donaghey (healthy) comes at the draft and the pick goes back along with a moncton D from the system since we can't send back McQuaid or Moody.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 11, 2014 20:03:49 GMT -4
Strange... McQuaid isn't playing tonight and there was no mention of an injury. He may have been suspended ... he got a misconduct late in the game for some sort of interaction with the fans ... but I didn't see what he did.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 11, 2014 20:08:02 GMT -4
Neither is Moody. Let the speculation run wild! McQuaid Moody, and a pick for Sweeney? Donaghey (healthy) comes at the draft and the pick goes back along with a moncton D from the system since we can't send back McQuaid or Moody. Them keeping Donaghey to play for them is ludicrous. We still get him ... but require compensation while he is out of the lineup. He is the only player of any value in the trade ... he will be with us by the end of the trade period. He'll be ready to play in February.
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jazz
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Dec 11, 2014 23:51:13 GMT -4
Post by jazz on Dec 11, 2014 23:51:13 GMT -4
Hodge says Burke, Donaghey, Moody and Brassard and that the Wildcats have to agree to take an injured player under the QMJHL rules put in place two years ago. This will be interesting. I'm assuming the Tkachev for Burke and Brassard is a done deal and separate. Only the Sweeney, Donaghey and Moody part is subject to the agreement? Could it all be tied together from a league point of view?
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Dec 12, 2014 0:19:37 GMT -4
Post by Arnold Slick on Dec 12, 2014 0:19:37 GMT -4
Hodge says Burke, Donaghey, Moody and Brassard and that the Wildcats have to agree to take an injured player under the QMJHL rules put in place two years ago. This will be interesting. I'm assuming the Tkachev for Burke and Brassard is a done deal and separate. Only the Sweeney, Donaghey and Moody part is subject to the agreement? Could it all be tied together from a league point of view? Well like I said before I really doubt the Donaghey part of the trade was sent in to the league office and signed off on. This is definitely turning into quite the situation.
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topnet
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Dec 12, 2014 0:20:44 GMT -4
Post by topnet on Dec 12, 2014 0:20:44 GMT -4
Hodge says Burke, Donaghey, Moody and Brassard and that the Wildcats have to agree to take an injured player under the QMJHL rules put in place two years ago. This will be interesting. I'm assuming the Tkachev for Burke and Brassard is a done deal and separate. Only the Sweeney, Donaghey and Moody part is subject to the agreement? Could it all be tied together from a league point of view? When you say "Hodge says" where did you see that reported?
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jazz
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Dec 12, 2014 0:27:19 GMT -4
Post by jazz on Dec 12, 2014 0:27:19 GMT -4
Electronic version of the paper. Should be in tomorrow's paper version. He didn't mention Sweeney, I filled that in on the assumption.
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Dec 12, 2014 0:41:34 GMT -4
Post by joehockey on Dec 12, 2014 0:41:34 GMT -4
Hodge says Burke, Donaghey, Moody and Brassard and that the Wildcats have to agree to take an injured player under the QMJHL rules put in place two years ago. This will be interesting. I'm assuming the Tkachev for Burke and Brassard is a done deal and separate. Only the Sweeney, Donaghey and Moody part is subject to the agreement? Could it all be tied together from a league point of view? I just don't understand the Moody addition. He's nothing more than a marginal Q player and will be taking ice time from younger players who have higher upside. Makes zero sense to me. This feels like Shannon is doing nothing more than making a deal for the stake of making a deal (the Sweeney trade).
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Dec 12, 2014 5:57:27 GMT -4
Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Dec 12, 2014 5:57:27 GMT -4
If it is in fact Sweeney , that is an horrendous deal for Moncton. Don't understand that one at all. Burke and Moody' values are mid round picks ( 4th ) and Brassard is a 19 year old back up. Sweeney alone would have fetched a 1st , 2nd and a prospect. Donaghey is already NHL signed so he wouldn't have been here any longer than Sweeney(next season).
Shannon dropped the ball big time in this one. Wasn't even able to land Fiori or Sutton...
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Dec 12, 2014 8:26:58 GMT -4
Post by curtis on Dec 12, 2014 8:26:58 GMT -4
I think the fear is that Sweeney might get signed and not be back next season...Donaghey would be nearly guaranteed to be here.
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Dec 12, 2014 8:37:53 GMT -4
Post by Penguins23® on Dec 12, 2014 8:37:53 GMT -4
I think the fear is that Sweeney might get signed and not be back next season...Donaghey would be nearly guaranteed to be here. Donaghey is already signed while Sweeney isn't.
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Post by hockey1981 on Dec 12, 2014 8:39:26 GMT -4
I think the fear is that Sweeney might get signed and not be back next season...Donaghey would be nearly guaranteed to be here. Donaghey is already signed while Sweeney isn't. Sweeney could be signed and play pro while Donaghey it's NHL or Jr.
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Dec 12, 2014 8:39:39 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 12, 2014 8:39:39 GMT -4
I think the fear is that Sweeney might get signed and not be back next season...Donaghey would be nearly guaranteed to be here. Donaghey is already signed while Sweeney isn't. Sweeney is having a big year and a lot of teams are looking at him. Will likely be drafted, so they could easily send him AHL or ECHL instead of another year junior.
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Dec 12, 2014 9:55:10 GMT -4
Post by bois on Dec 12, 2014 9:55:10 GMT -4
Hodge says Burke, Donaghey, Moody and Brassard and that the Wildcats have to agree to take an injured player under the QMJHL rules put in place two years ago. This will be interesting. I'm assuming the Tkachev for Burke and Brassard is a done deal and separate. Only the Sweeney, Donaghey and Moody part is subject to the agreement? Could it all be tied together from a league point of view? I just don't understand the Moody addition. He's nothing more than a marginal Q player and will be taking ice time from younger players who have higher upside. Makes zero sense to me. This feels like Shannon is doing nothing more than making a deal for the stake of making a deal (the Sweeney trade). perhaps there are other players being moved out during the trade period and Moody is a filler much like what we did last year with some of our deals... you still need some players to ice a lineup after all
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Dec 12, 2014 10:01:39 GMT -4
Post by Arnold Slick on Dec 12, 2014 10:01:39 GMT -4
It's the logic of the deal that really bothers me. And by logic I mean there's none at all. You weaken yourself for this season by trading your best defenceman. A season in which you're currently sitting 5th overall and within striking distance of the division lead.
Does this deal really strengthen the team THAT much for next season when the division is stronger? Maybe a bit, but for me not enough to make a huge difference. If you're going to sell at least do it right and get fair value for your best defenceman and probably one of the top defenceman available during the trade period. Should at least be able to get a 1st round pick and a good young player.
It really makes very little sense and I have no idea what they're trying to accomplish with this deal aside from further angering the fans.
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