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Post by SteveUL on Mar 6, 2015 9:07:10 GMT -4
Moncton's Remaining Schedule
@ CB, @ SJ, Vs SJ, vs BAT, @ HAL, vs HAL, vs CHAR
Blainville-Boisbriand's remaining schedule
vs QUE, vs DRUM, vs ROU, vs CHIC, @ DRUM, @ ROU, @ VD
Rimouski's Remaining Schedule
vs DRUM, vs CHIC, @ CHIC, @ BC, @ BC, vs SHAW, @ QUE, vs QUE
Just looking at the remaining schedule for the 3 teams battling for 1st overall, Rimouski seems to have the toughest schedule, while BBA's is tougher than our's. Our's is not easy by any means but the highest ranked team we play sits in 8th today (SJ).
RIM is listed in 1st today with 60 GP, 41 W, 15 L, 2 OTL, 2 SOL for 86 pts. RIM have 3 OTW and 2 SOW. BBA is listed in 2nd today with 61 GP, 38 W, 14 L, 2 OTL, 7 SOL for 85 pts. BBA have 1 OTW and 4 SOW. MON is listed in 3rd today with 61 GP, 41 W, 17 L, 0 OTL, 3 SOL for 85 pts. MON have 3 OTW and 7 SOW.
I can't remember how the tie-breaker works but I know that wins is the first tie-breaker, but they subtract SOW and maybe OTW from your win total. Somebody else can chime in to confirm that or correct that.
The bottom line though is with 7 SOW, we likely won't win any tiebreakers against the other two teams. So that means we have to out-point them to get ahead of them. That is probably why we are listed in 3rd even though we are tied in points with BBA.
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Post by catnut on Mar 6, 2015 9:20:24 GMT -4
Moncton's Remaining Schedule @ CB, @ SJ, Vs SJ, vs BAT, @ HAL, vs HAL, vs CHAR Blainville-Boisbriand's remaining schedule vs QUE, vs DRUM, vs ROU, vs CHIC, @ DRUM, @ ROU, @ VD Rimouski's Remaining Schedule vs DRUM, vs CHIC, @ CHIC, @ BC, @ BC, vs SHAW, @ QUE, vs QUE Just looking at the remaining schedule for the 3 teams battling for 1st overall, Rimouski seems to have the toughest schedule, while BBA's is tougher than our's. Our's is not easy by any means but the highest ranked team we play sits in 8th today (SJ). RIM is listed in 1st today with 60 GP, 41 W, 15 L, 2 OTL, 2 SOL for 86 pts. RIM have 3 OTW and 2 SOW. BBA is listed in 2nd today with 61 GP, 38 W, 14 L, 2 OTL, 7 SOL for 85 pts. BBA have 1 OTW and 4 SOW. MON is listed in 3rd today with 61 GP, 41 W, 17 L, 0 OTL, 3 SOL for 85 pts. MON have 3 OTW and 7 SOW. I can't remember how the tie-breaker works but I know that wins is the first tie-breaker, but they subtract SOW and maybe OTW from your win total. Somebody else can chime in to confirm that or correct that. The bottom line though is with 7 SOW, we likely won't win any tiebreakers against the other two teams. So that means we have to out-point them to get ahead of them. That is probably why we are listed in 3rd even though we are tied in points with BBA. First tie breaker is wins before the shootout. Cats would still be tied with BBA Second tie breaker is GF-GA difference. BBA has an edge there.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 6, 2015 10:22:37 GMT -4
Moncton's Remaining Schedule @ CB, @ SJ, Vs SJ, vs BAT, @ HAL, vs HAL, vs CHAR Blainville-Boisbriand's remaining schedule vs QUE, vs DRUM, vs ROU, vs CHIC, @ DRUM, @ ROU, @ VD Rimouski's Remaining Schedule vs DRUM, vs CHIC, @ CHIC, @ BC, @ BC, vs SHAW, @ QUE, vs QUE Just looking at the remaining schedule for the 3 teams battling for 1st overall, Rimouski seems to have the toughest schedule, while BBA's is tougher than our's. Our's is not easy by any means but the highest ranked team we play sits in 8th today (SJ). RIM is listed in 1st today with 60 GP, 41 W, 15 L, 2 OTL, 2 SOL for 86 pts. RIM have 3 OTW and 2 SOW. BBA is listed in 2nd today with 61 GP, 38 W, 14 L, 2 OTL, 7 SOL for 85 pts. BBA have 1 OTW and 4 SOW. MON is listed in 3rd today with 61 GP, 41 W, 17 L, 0 OTL, 3 SOL for 85 pts. MON have 3 OTW and 7 SOW. I can't remember how the tie-breaker works but I know that wins is the first tie-breaker, but they subtract SOW and maybe OTW from your win total. Somebody else can chime in to confirm that or correct that. The bottom line though is with 7 SOW, we likely won't win any tiebreakers against the other two teams. So that means we have to out-point them to get ahead of them. That is probably why we are listed in 3rd even though we are tied in points with BBA. The Cats should be able to ride their soft schedule to 1st overall. They have a lot easier games than Boisbriand and Rimouski.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 6, 2015 12:23:32 GMT -4
Moncton's Remaining Schedule @ CB, @ SJ, Vs SJ, vs BAT, @ HAL, vs HAL, vs CHAR Blainville-Boisbriand's remaining schedule vs QUE, vs DRUM, vs ROU, vs CHIC, @ DRUM, @ ROU, @ VD Rimouski's Remaining Schedule vs DRUM, vs CHIC, @ CHIC, @ BC, @ BC, vs SHAW, @ QUE, vs QUE Just looking at the remaining schedule for the 3 teams battling for 1st overall, Rimouski seems to have the toughest schedule, while BBA's is tougher than our's. Our's is not easy by any means but the highest ranked team we play sits in 8th today (SJ). RIM is listed in 1st today with 60 GP, 41 W, 15 L, 2 OTL, 2 SOL for 86 pts. RIM have 3 OTW and 2 SOW. BBA is listed in 2nd today with 61 GP, 38 W, 14 L, 2 OTL, 7 SOL for 85 pts. BBA have 1 OTW and 4 SOW. MON is listed in 3rd today with 61 GP, 41 W, 17 L, 0 OTL, 3 SOL for 85 pts. MON have 3 OTW and 7 SOW. I can't remember how the tie-breaker works but I know that wins is the first tie-breaker, but they subtract SOW and maybe OTW from your win total. Somebody else can chime in to confirm that or correct that. The bottom line though is with 7 SOW, we likely won't win any tiebreakers against the other two teams. So that means we have to out-point them to get ahead of them. That is probably why we are listed in 3rd even though we are tied in points with BBA. The Cats should be able to ride their soft schedule to 1st overall. They have a lot easier games than Boisbriand and Rimouski. Even if we win all of our remaining games in regulation ... we still need help from others. MON can reach 99 pts, BBA can reach 99 pts, and RIM can reach 102. So we need RIM to lose at least 2 games .. and BBA to lose at least one. The more we lose, the more we need them to lose.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 6, 2015 16:05:13 GMT -4
The Cats should be able to ride their soft schedule to 1st overall. They have a lot easier games than Boisbriand and Rimouski. Even if we win all of our remaining games in regulation ... we still need help from others. MON can reach 99 pts, BBA can reach 99 pts, and RIM can reach 102. So we need RIM to lose at least 2 games .. and BBA to lose at least one. The more we lose, the more we need them to lose. Those teams have some tough games, BBA has Quebec and has to go to VD and RN. Rimouski has Quebec twice and 2 road games at BC. The Cats are playing all sub .500 teams and none of them have a record over .500 their last 10. VD is the hottest team in the Q. Quebec is 4th overall and BC is 5th.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 8, 2015 18:52:36 GMT -4
Even if we win all of our remaining games in regulation ... we still need help from others. MON can reach 99 pts, BBA can reach 99 pts, and RIM can reach 102. So we need RIM to lose at least 2 games .. and BBA to lose at least one. The more we lose, the more we need them to lose. Those teams have some tough games, BBA has Quebec and has to go to VD and RN. Rimouski has Quebec twice and 2 road games at BC. The Cats are playing all sub .500 teams and none of them have a record over .500 their last 10. VD is the hottest team in the Q. Quebec is 4th overall and BC is 5th. They both lost to bottom feeders today ... unexpected ... while we won a strong road game.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 9, 2015 6:40:13 GMT -4
The Q site lists Moncton in 1st this morning ... although we are tied with Rimouski for 89 pts. When you take away our 7 SOW, Rimouski should hold the first tie-breaker.
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Post by bois on Mar 9, 2015 8:58:36 GMT -4
First tie breaker is likely wins... you guys have 43... Rimouski has 42 thus you guys are first as of today
They do hold a game in hand tho
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Post by catnut on Mar 9, 2015 9:13:11 GMT -4
First tie breaker is likely wins... you guys have 43... Rimouski has 42 thus you guys are first as of today They do hold a game in hand tho First tie-breaker is wins before the shootout, which gives an edge to Rimouski over Moncton. The new Q site is not reliable at this time. THis morning, at the top of the page, I have a game involving Lewiston and one with PEI, from September 2010.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 9, 2015 9:55:19 GMT -4
First tie breaker is likely wins... you guys have 43... Rimouski has 42 thus you guys are first as of today They do hold a game in hand tho First tie-breaker is wins before the shootout, which gives an edge to Rimouski over Moncton. The new Q site is not reliable at this time. THis morning, at the top of the page, I have a game involving Lewiston and one with PEI, from September 2010. Yup ... if you go to the "daily stats" ... cluster.leaguestat.com/download.php?client_code=lhjmq&file_path=daily-report/daily-report.htmlRimouski is listed first, which I believe to be correct. Yesterday was an important day in helping us get 1st overall. I figured if we were going to lose any games in this last stretch, it would be a road game in SJ or in HAL. So we won on the road ... nice. It was very unexpected that RIM and BBA would lose to Chic and DRUM respectively ... I figured those were gimmees. Five of Rimouski's final 6 games are against Top 7 teams ... and the other game is vs the team they just lost to. We still need them to drop 3 pts to avoid the tie-breaker. Very possible with their schedule, but they could just as easily win out. BBA has a tough road game to close out the season against the surging Foreurs, but they SHOULD win the rest of them. But we are ahead of BBA now if we can win out ... now they need the help from one of our opponents. If I'm betting ... I say we finish 2nd overall ... and face one of Chic/Vic/Gat/CB. I hate all of those options. I know we have had our way against CB, but I always feel they play shitty against us and are so much better than what we see. Gat looked scary last week. Chic are better than their record ... IMO ... and are a big team. Vic always gives us fits in the playoffs ... I think we have faced them 3 or 4 times now. Edit: the Q site has now been corrected ... we are listed in 2nd.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Mar 9, 2015 19:08:42 GMT -4
Out of those four options you listed I definitely would rather not have any part of Gatineau in the first round. They're clearly the best of those four teams and are getting hot at the right time. That said, they've been a pretty dysfunctional team all season and I wouldn't be shocked to see that surface again in the playoffs.
I'd feel pretty confident playing any of the other three teams in the opening round.
Cape Breton maybe should be much better than what we've seen, but they've rarely showed it. They played quite well after the conclusion of the trade period and looked like they might start to soar up the standings. That really hasn't happened though and the franchise doesn't exactly have a sparkling track record of playoff success. Look no further than last year for proof of that. Quite a few people thought their series with Gatineau would be one of the more hotly contested in the first round. Instead it ended up being the most lopsided. Bathurst played Val-d'Or tougher than the Eagles did Gatineau. Think about that for a second.
Chicoutimi seems like another version of Cape Breton at best. They do play in the toughest division so there's definitely something to be said for that. For the most part thought it's been a team that probably should be better, but have never really got there. Had a nice stretch after bringing in Yanick Jean and then went back to being a mediocre hockey team after that. He might be one reason to not want to play them anyway.
Speaking of unpleasant memories...Victoriaville. Of course this would be a completely different scenario to 2012. They have some dangerous players and have been able to hang with the top teams on occasion, but overall they're a pretty young team. If I got to pick who the Cats faced in the first round this would be it.
There's not going to be any easy first round series this year, so it's really a case of pick your poison. One thing I'll say is that if Dubeau continues to play the way he has lately, then the Cats will have a pretty clear edge in goal in the first round against any of these teams.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 12, 2015 5:53:34 GMT -4
Rimouski adds a SOW to their totals (even though the Q doesn't keep track of them on their standings page) ... they still need to drop 3 pts. They have 3 SOW and we have 7 SOW ... so doubtful that ever moves into our favour with 5 games to go.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Mar 12, 2015 21:28:05 GMT -4
More good news for the Cats tonight - Blainville loses at home to Rouyn.
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Post by catnut on Mar 12, 2015 21:50:08 GMT -4
More good news for the Cats tonight - Blainville loses at home to Rouyn. Pretty much takes them out of the battle for first. 4 points back of Rimouski with just 4 games to go for them, with Rimouski having the edge in a tie.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 13, 2015 7:24:18 GMT -4
More good news for the Cats tonight - Blainville loses at home to Rouyn. Pretty much takes them out of the battle for first. 4 points back of Rimouski with just 4 games to go for them, with Rimouski having the edge in a tie. They can still beat out the Cats for #2, but will be hard, the WC have the easiest schedule and 5 games left. Right now teams probably want to avoid Gatineau, especially the ones with a Boston Pizza location, given how they are the hottest of the crappy teams...7-1-2 vs 5-5-0 vs 3-5-2).
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