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Post by Score on Nov 6, 2007 20:52:08 GMT -4
Just wondering about the Rocket's 3rd jersey. Can they where them as much as they want, or are teams allowed only a certain amount of games to wear them? Love their 3rd jersey, and would like to see them being worn more often. Perhaps a change is all that is needed ;D
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Post by coreyapple on Nov 6, 2007 20:59:47 GMT -4
I'm not really that keen on the Rocket's third jersey, though it's nice to see it once in a while.
Would have liked to see the Rocket logo displayed more prominently on the blue jersey, somehow.
It's OK, just not great.
The Rocket's red jersey, IMO, is one of the best uniforms in the league - right up there with Chicoutimi, Val d'Or, and Shawinigan's unis.
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Post by Score on Nov 6, 2007 21:04:53 GMT -4
I heard a rumor earlier on that the Rocket were planning on revealing a jersey similar to the one the old Charlottetown Islanders used to wear back in the day.
I was told that they were planning on wearing them when they hosted the Remparts.......but that was not the case.
Anyone hear anything on this, or was it just a "rumor" that went no where?
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Post by Fusion on Nov 6, 2007 21:24:16 GMT -4
The third jersey wouldn't be used until the last half of the season as it's dark, they wear the white ones for the first half... i think
Never heard anything about the islander like jerseys.
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Post by nolman29 on Nov 6, 2007 21:28:37 GMT -4
I personally hate the third jerseys.
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Post by reggiedunlop7 on Nov 6, 2007 21:56:20 GMT -4
If you look at the Season Ticket booklet (not sure of the date, in the 2nd half) there is a ticket with the old Charlottetown Junior Islanders jersey on it. The old yellow with maroon colour striping when they faced the Quebec Remparts in 1971 in the Eastern finals to determine who went to the Mem Cup.
From what I was told early on, the team is wearing full replicas of the uniforms and after the game the jersies are to be auctioned off. Whether that plan is still in the works...I hope so.
The Junior Islanders were a great team in their day and spawned such players as Bobby MacMillan, Hilliard Graves, Alan MacAdam, Angus Beck, Tom Steeves, Steve Van Diest, Luc Bedard, Max Roy, Kevin Devine to name a few.
i'd buy a replica jersey for that team.
And for you history buffs the attendance at those games during the regular season at the old Forum usually hovered at the 6-800 mark (even back then Island hockey fans waited until playoffs). When playoffs started and they advanced to the Eastern finals ownership of tickets were taken to court, mayors of Quebec City and Charlottetown weighed in, riots broke out. Playing for the Remparts that year....Guy Lafleur.
After the 1971 season junior hockey was then divided into two tiers...Major Junior and Tier I (Junior A) and the Islanders that season hosted the first Centennial Cup (now known as the Royal Bank Cup) and defeated the Halifax Atlantics coached by in his first ever head coaching job...Forbie Kennedy who had Robbie Ftorek on his team. Islanders won the Maritime title and faced the Thunder Bay team which featured a rough and tumble lineup including Bill "Goldy" Goldthorpe (inspiration for Ogie Olgethorpe in Slapshot), then moved onto the Detroit Jr Red Wings and faced Gordie Howe's boys...Mark and Marty. In the Centennial Cup final they lost the Red Deer Rustlers....in nets...John Davidson.
So endeth the lesson.
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Post by Score on Nov 6, 2007 21:59:13 GMT -4
From what I was told early on, the team is wearing full replicas of the uniforms and after the game the jersies are to be auctioned off. Whether that plan is still in the works...I hope so. Thats what I was told, but I was told that they were going to wear them Vs the Remps here at home. That game has passed.
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Post by coreyapple on Nov 7, 2007 9:13:28 GMT -4
If you look at the Season Ticket booklet (not sure of the date, in the 2nd half) there is a ticket with the old Charlottetown Junior Islanders jersey on it. The old yellow with maroon colour striping when they faced the Quebec Remparts in 1971 in the Eastern finals to determine who went to the Mem Cup. From what I was told early on, the team is wearing full replicas of the uniforms and after the game the jersies are to be auctioned off. Whether that plan is still in the works...I hope so. The Junior Islanders were a great team in their day and spawned such players as Bobby MacMillan, Hilliard Graves, Alan MacAdam, Angus Beck, Tom Steeves, Steve Van Diest, Luc Bedard, Max Roy, Kevin Devine to name a few. i'd buy a replica jersey for that team. And for you history buffs the attendance at those games during the regular season at the old Forum usually hovered at the 6-800 mark (even back then Island hockey fans waited until playoffs). When playoffs started and they advanced to the Eastern finals ownership of tickets were taken to court, mayors of Quebec City and Charlottetown weighed in, riots broke out. Playing for the Remparts that year....Guy Lafleur. After the 1971 season junior hockey was then divided into two tiers...Major Junior and Tier I (Junior A) and the Islanders that season hosted the first Centennial Cup (now known as the Royal Bank Cup) and defeated the Halifax Atlantics coached by in his first ever head coaching job...Forbie Kennedy who had Robbie Ftorek on his team. Islanders won the Maritime title and faced the Thunder Bay team which featured a rough and tumble lineup including Bill "Goldy" Goldthorpe (inspiration for Ogie Olgethorpe in Slapshot), then moved onto the Detroit Jr Red Wings and faced Gordie Howe's boys...Mark and Marty. In the Centennial Cup final they lost the Red Deer Rustlers....in nets...John Davidson. So endeth the lesson. Great write-up, Reggie, thank you! The reason they broke junior hockey up into two tiers is that the weaker teams used to get seriously beat up. The Charlottetown Islanders of 1971 were an exception, as they competed well with the Remparts. But in the 50s and 60s, the OHA (now Major Junior OHL) champions would slaughter one of the lesser teams from a regional league before going on to the Memorial Cup final against the west, and it was ugly to watch. Going to two tiers was a very good move.
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Post by reggiedunlop7 on Nov 7, 2007 9:54:26 GMT -4
Checked my ticket book this morning....the Islanders jersey is one the ticket for the Feb. 23 game versus Cape Breton I believe.
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Post by joust on Nov 7, 2007 15:25:42 GMT -4
If they do wear those Islander jerseys, it will be a special night for some. Hopefully they can lure some former Islander players and have a nice ceremony during the pregame.
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Post by hockeydog on Nov 7, 2007 16:22:28 GMT -4
actually, it wqas after the 69/70 season they split the junior leagues into 2 divisions.
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Post by hockeydog on Nov 7, 2007 17:26:31 GMT -4
oh, and one other thought!!! the reason the islanders drew low attendence, was jus tthe opposite of why the rocket's is down. they were TOO good. they bombed everyone, all year , so attendence dropped until playoff time. was not unusual for them to win games by double digits on a regular basis.
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Post by reggiedunlop7 on Nov 8, 2007 10:16:00 GMT -4
69-70 was not the year that they split into two tiers. Also that information was given to me by Jack Hynes, who coached the Islanders for the three years they were in existance from his personal scrapbooks.
When the junior ranks were further divided in 1934 between Junior 'A' and Junior 'B', the Memorial Cup served as the Junior 'A' championship trophy, and the Sutherland Cup became the Junior 'B' trophy. From 1937 the Memorial Cup was a best-of-five series, and in 1943 reverted back to a best-of-seven series.
For the 1971-1972 season, the Junior 'A' rank was further split into the Major Junior rank and a second-tier rank (referred nowadays as Junior 'A'), with the Memorial Cup serving as the Major Junior championship trophy, and the Manitoba Centennial Trophy, and later the Royal Bank Cup, serving as the second tier championship trophy.
Prior to the split regional champions competed in a round robin format. Maritime champions that competed for the Memorial Cup 1970 - Charlottetown Islanders 1969 - Halifax Canadians 1968 - Halifax Canadians 1967 - Halifax Canadians 1966 - Halifax Canadians 1965 - Sydney 1964 - Summerside 1963 - Charlottetown 1962 - Halifax King Fishers 1961 - Moncton Beavers 1960 - Moncton Beavers 1959 - Campbellton 1958 - Cape Breton All-Stars 1957 and 1956 - No Maritime league listed
1934, 1939, 1940, 1941 - Maritime junior titles won by Charlottetown, which at the time came under the Abegweit Athletic Association and the teams were called the Abbies. Also during those years the Abbies had a pretty good senior team as well featuring players like Ivan Nicholson, Jack Kane Sr, Johnny Squarebriggs, etc.
Junior hockey started in this province in 1930. The Abbies were the first junior team from the Island to win a Maritime title in 1934 and lost in the Memorial Cup semi-finals to eventual champion Toronto St. Mike's.
Halifax had great success as from 1946-1951 Halifax St. Mary's won the Maritime title.
In reference to the crowds you can go back to any period when a team was having success and find that the regular season was not a sellout every night. The Panthers in the mid-80's never sold out on a regular basis....soon as playoffs rolled around you couldn't squeeze any more bums into the Forum. Same with the Armour Fence Islanders and the Allan Cup. All season they drew decently, but get the final and lined up around the block for tickets.
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Post by coreyapple on Nov 8, 2007 10:34:06 GMT -4
Reggie and Hockeydog are saying the same thing regarding the splitting of Junior hockey into Major Junior and Everybody-else Junior.
The first year of the split was 1970-71.
The Red Deer Rustlers won the very first Centennial Cup (this was back in the days when cups, trophies, rinks and stadia didn't HAVE to be named after corporations) in the spring of 1971.
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Post by coreyapple on Nov 8, 2007 10:39:46 GMT -4
The Panthers in the mid-80's never sold out on a regular basis....soon as playoffs rolled around you couldn't squeeze any more bums into the Forum. Reggie, Panther playoff games at the old Forum in the mid-to-late 80s were terrific. The place was loud, and you could actually SEE the play. There was no constant loud music - you didn't NEED it, the fans were actually into the game and provided the noise and atmosphere. All playoff games were sold out, and tickets were hard to get - I remember lining up for 2 hours in '85 and '88, but in those days, once the box office opened, things really moved, as opposed to the way it is nowadays, where they have to print the tickets as they go, and it takes 2 or 3 minutes per customer, as opposed to 20 seconds. Some regular-season games were sold out too, though, especially when the Aigles Bleus would come to town. The old Forum wasn't good enough, so they built The Morgue, and we're all better off for it - aren't we?
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