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Post by sc74 on Apr 4, 2015 14:35:19 GMT -4
Officials in the Q have always been Bias towards the Quebec teams, other than the Maritime teams no idea why wasn't at the game so can't say why the Eagles lost; But I agree most of the officials in the Q are horrendous. There is a few like Thomander that have gotten better and let them play. Typical Moose fan with the Q referees bias towards Quebec teams' comment.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 14:54:19 GMT -4
Exactly. A season long issue with playing 60 minutes and being unable to defend leads has put a team that should have enough skill and talent to be a 2nd or 3rd round team be a low seed out in round 1 to a superior team. Thankfully 2 high 1st rounders should help replace some of what we lose for next year. So you see those 2 first rounders here ? No, not necessarily. They're assets which will likely be used to go after veterans or kept while a pile of other assets are traded with the logic of the 2 1sts giving other kids no room to make the team next year but they're the key part of it as having them gives us a trump card few contenders will have. I'd rather not get into making a lineup for next year while this year is still happening so we'll have lots of time to discuss that prior to the draft.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 14:57:17 GMT -4
Officials in the Q have always been Bias towards the Quebec teams, other than the Maritime teams no idea why wasn't at the game so can't say why the Eagles lost; But I agree most of the officials in the Q are horrendous. There is a few like Thomander that have gotten better and let them play. Typical Moose fan with the Q referees bias towards Quebec teams' comment. Yeah and to Quebec based fans the bias is towards the Maritime teams. To each side there is no debate it's so obvious. Watch a game with no crowd noise and have no allegiance to either side and you'll see a ton of missed stuff on both sides. Just last night....if Sullivan is the goalie taking the dive and getting the penalty there is a 15 page thread here already at how the ref could possible call a dive on a goalie being slashed 20 feet from his net. But it's supposed to be a sign of bias when it goes the other way.
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Post by sc74 on Apr 4, 2015 15:06:17 GMT -4
Typical Moose fan with the Q referees bias towards Quebec teams' comment. Yeah and to Quebec based fans the bias is towards the Maritime teams. To each side there is no debate it's so obvious. Watch a game with no crowd noise and have no allegiance to either side and you'll see a ton of missed stuff on both sides. Just last night....if Sullivan is the goalie taking the dive and getting the penalty there is a 15 page thread here already at how the ref could possible call a dive on a goalie being slashed 20 feet from his net. But it's supposed to be a sign of bias when it goes the other way. Exactly. The common feeling on the Quebec side is that the Mooseheads are one of the league's favorite teams while the Mooseheads fans think the league hates them!
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 4, 2015 15:59:16 GMT -4
Yeah and to Quebec based fans the bias is towards the Maritime teams. To each side there is no debate it's so obvious. Watch a game with no crowd noise and have no allegiance to either side and you'll see a ton of missed stuff on both sides. Just last night....if Sullivan is the goalie taking the dive and getting the penalty there is a 15 page thread here already at how the ref could possible call a dive on a goalie being slashed 20 feet from his net. But it's supposed to be a sign of bias when it goes the other way. Exactly. The common feeling on the Quebec side is that the Mooseheads are one of the league's favorite teams while the Mooseheads fans think the league hates them! I do not buy that the referees are biased in favor Quebec teams. Some of the officiating crews live in the Maritimes and this season the Mooseheads actually got better (perceived) officiating from Q based refs in Quebec games. Case in point count the Ehlers dives --how many were called by Q based officials?
The league office may prefer more Quebec based teams win for interest within Quebec in playoffs. The media up there certainly does. Renaud Lavoie for example will point out the odds improving that a Quebec based team will win the cup round by round as maritime teams fall off. (watch out Moncton..lol)
We have discussed this before. Halifax, Gatineau and Quebec have influence in this league. They get more global attention than other teams. Anything good or bad happens to them it can't be hidden. Everyone hears it.
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Post by dt281 on Apr 4, 2015 19:02:13 GMT -4
I wasn't at Game 3 so I have no idea how the refs were? Every time someone comments on refs you tell them the same story, that's the Q is deal with it. It's just as much part of the game as bad goaltending so since this is a public forum I have no problem when people bring it up. I said the linesmen were terrible for both teams. I said it wasn't the reason we lost, I said our 20yo weren't good enough, Sullivan missed played the puck etc. other than playing the puck I felt Sullivan played a decent game, just Fucale was better. Quebec are a solid team that seem to be getting their game together now. The shitty first half put us against them so it's our fault we drew this matchup. Too bad for the untimely injuries this series because I think we may have pulled it off. If you think the refs were good let us know? I agree that it shouldn't be an excuse for the loss but I have no problem with peoples criticism either. Didnt say they were good. Were mediocre and both sodes had some bad calls and bad missed calls. I am not saying you cant talk about it. Part of the public forum is discussion and defending opinion. When someone comes on some day and says the visiting team was robbed for once I will let you debate them. Until then the home team is about 1000 to 0 in terms of being screwed by mediocre Q officials. Do you not see the point? You will "let" me debate them? Lol. Thanks but I don't need your permission oh great one. I understand the whole home town bias but I don't find our board is any worse than others. I'm not naive to blame a loss entirely on refs but I have no problem when someone points out a missed or bad call. It's great that you are fine with it you can continue to stick your head in the sand or up your ass when calls are missed for all I care. Get off your fucking pedestal and stop telling people what they can and can't talk about.
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Post by aquilae on Apr 4, 2015 19:06:28 GMT -4
Huge loss for the Eagles. They'll be in tough having to win two in-a-row at the Coliseé. As far as the officiating goes: QMJHL referees are just bad. Has nothing do to with bias; just incompetence. The Mooseheads and the Cataractes got screwed by Leblanc, Langille last night at the Forum.
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Post by dt281 on Apr 4, 2015 19:41:15 GMT -4
So does Sullivan get the start in game 6? He played good enough last game but man he makes me nervous especially they way he handled the puck last game. I assume the correct answer to the question asked about which former player we would most want on this team if we could choose 1 would be Fleury or Pavelec!! We sure could use a goalie to steal a game for us right now.
I hope the extra days off recharge the energy levels. It was obvious the top guys were worn out by having to be overplayed the night before.
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Post by thetruth on Apr 4, 2015 20:04:05 GMT -4
Didnt say they were good. Were mediocre and both sodes had some bad calls and bad missed calls. I am not saying you cant talk about it. Part of the public forum is discussion and defending opinion. When someone comes on some day and says the visiting team was robbed for once I will let you debate them. Until then the home team is about 1000 to 0 in terms of being screwed by mediocre Q officials. Do you not see the point? You will "let" me debate them? Lol. Thanks but I don't need your permission oh great one. I understand the whole home town bias but I don't find our board is any worse than others. I'm not naive to blame a loss entirely on refs but I have no problem when someone points out a missed or bad call. It's great that you are fine with it you can continue to stick your head in the sand or up your ass when calls are missed for all I care. Get off your fucking pedestal and stop telling people what they can and can't talk about. I will second that one ?
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Post by looneytunes on Apr 4, 2015 23:01:39 GMT -4
Didnt say they were good. Were mediocre and both sodes had some bad calls and bad missed calls. I am not saying you cant talk about it. Part of the public forum is discussion and defending opinion. When someone comes on some day and says the visiting team was robbed for once I will let you debate them. Until then the home team is about 1000 to 0 in terms of being screwed by mediocre Q officials. Do you not see the point? You will "let" me debate them? Lol. Thanks but I don't need your permission oh great one. I understand the whole home town bias but I don't find our board is any worse than others. I'm not naive to blame a loss entirely on refs but I have no problem when someone points out a missed or bad call. It's great that you are fine with it you can continue to stick your head in the sand or up your ass when calls are missed for all I care. Get off your fucking pedestal and stop telling people what they can and can't talk about. Fleury - Only lets not forget he had quite a few gaffes himself at playing the puck. Dave Davenport + Martin Houle. Would be my tandem.
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Post by looneytunes on Apr 4, 2015 23:03:43 GMT -4
You will "let" me debate them? Lol. Thanks but I don't need your permission oh great one. I understand the whole home town bias but I don't find our board is any worse than others. I'm not naive to blame a loss entirely on refs but I have no problem when someone points out a missed or bad call. It's great that you are fine with it you can continue to stick your head in the sand or up your ass when calls are missed for all I care. Get off your fucking pedestal and stop telling people what they can and can't talk about. I will second that one ? You say hahahahaha when people say Sullivan is not getting the start as if he is a prodigy. You deserved the criticism.
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Post by dt281 on Apr 5, 2015 7:41:48 GMT -4
I will second that one ? You say hahahahaha when people say Sullivan is not getting the start as if he is a prodigy. You deserved the criticism. Not sure what you are talking about?
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Post by JPLAB on Apr 5, 2015 9:09:33 GMT -4
Arsenault has never officiated a good game at C200. He is a crappy ref, not consistent, the players never know what to expect, other then a crappy game.
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Post by thetruth on Apr 5, 2015 9:11:49 GMT -4
I will second that one ? You say hahahahaha when people say Sullivan is not getting the start as if he is a prodigy. You deserved the criticism. One thing is clear " I CAN GIVE IT BUT I CAN ALSO TAKE IT " Thank you for the criticism!
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Post by thetruth on Apr 5, 2015 9:24:07 GMT -4
An incidentally, I never said prodigy ..... HOWEVER, I CAN SEE "HE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A GREAT GOALTENDER".
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