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Post by rockon on Jan 14, 2008 12:56:25 GMT -4
Latal has been invisable since Guy took over... Doyle is over a pt per game.......forgive the 17yr old if he doesn't perform up to par every game. It happens to the best of players. Doyle racks up a lot of points because he plays on the top PP unit with the best players and for much of the season was riding shotgun with Morrison and Walker. He was put in situations where it was almost difficult to NOT to pick up points. Some nights he looks like the best player on the ice, but more often than not he's been rather ineffective. Still playing well for a 17 yr old though. IMO, some of Guy's decisions over the road trip have been questionable at best. Latal and Lafleur both were in need of confidence boosters, yet he decided to sit the struggling Latal, who I might add just came off an impressive showing at the WJC, and start Lafleur vs. one of the best teams in the Q. I agree though, Latal hasn't been himself since Chouinard took over. Under Jean he was one of the "go to" players and really seemed to excel, but under the new coach his role has been signifigantly reduced. Could be a clash there, who knows, but if it does continue, it wouldn't surprise me to see him leave under these conditions and finish the season off in Europe. This team is going to need both Latal and Lafleur down the stretch, so Guy really needs to find a way to get the most out of those guys, which he hasn't been doing...... That would be another strike again the Rocket, letting a fan favorite go and play elsewhere. If they didn't intend on playing the guy then they should have moved him at trading time. |
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Post by Score on Jan 14, 2008 12:59:10 GMT -4
Doyle racks up a lot of points because he plays on the top PP unit with the best players and for much of the season was riding shotgun with Morrison and Walker. He was put in situations where it was almost difficult to NOT to pick up points. Some nights he looks like the best player on the ice, but more often than not he's been rather ineffective. Still playing well for a 17 yr old though. IMO, some of Guy's decisions over the road trip have been questionable at best. Latal and Lafleur both were in need of confidence boosters, yet he decided to sit the struggling Latal, who I might add just came off an impressive showing at the WJC, and start Lafleur vs. one of the best teams in the Q. I agree though, Latal hasn't been himself since Chouinard took over. Under Jean he was one of the "go to" players and really seemed to excel, but under the new coach his role has been signifigantly reduced. Could be a clash there, who knows, but if it does continue, it wouldn't surprise me to see him leave under these conditions and finish the season off in Europe. This team is going to need both Latal and Lafleur down the stretch, so Guy really needs to find a way to get the most out of those guys, which he hasn't been doing...... That would be another strike again the Rocket, letting a fan favorite go and play elsewhere. If they didn't intend on playing the guy then they should have moved him at trading time. Euro players are not easy to trade. Most "contending" teams alrady have there Euros on their roster. Especially 19yr old Euros. |
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Post by mboyan on Jan 14, 2008 14:20:35 GMT -4
I think Euros ca be traded at anytime, can't they?
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Post by wingman on Jan 14, 2008 14:30:28 GMT -4
I think Euros ca be traded at anytime, can't they? Yes they can. But the problem is that a team can only have 2 Euro players on their team and if a team already having 2 Euro players on their team trades for a third, they have to release or trade one of their current European players. With the trading period over, it makes it difficult to trade one of those European players because they can't be traded for players under the age of 20 and/or draft picks. |
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Post by bois on Jan 14, 2008 14:37:31 GMT -4
That would be another strike again the Rocket, letting a fan favorite go and play elsewhere. If they didn't intend on playing the guy then they should have moved him at trading time. Euro players are not easy to trade. Most "contending" teams alrady have there Euros on their roster. Especially 19yr old Euros. I would have agreed with you prior to this season.. however several Euros were dealt this year.. i think a new home for Latal could have been easily found |
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Post by ugluk on Jan 14, 2008 14:38:13 GMT -4
I think Euros ca be traded at anytime, can't they? I'm pretty sure Jan 8 was the deadline for any trades. Euros can be traded outside of the trading periods up to Jan 8. |
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Post by rockon on Jan 14, 2008 15:36:03 GMT -4
I think Euros ca be traded at anytime, can't they? I'm pretty sure Jan 8 was the deadline for any trades. Euros can be traded outside of the trading periods up to Jan 8. THE QMJHL ADMINISTRATIVE RULE BOOK 2.14.2 Trading Period The League declares that there will be three trading periods during the season. The first is held at the annual draft. The second in August and the third is held after the last game scheduled during mid-season until January 8th at noon. No trading shall be made outside these three periods, except for 20 year old players and the European players who may be traded at all times until January 8th at noon. In the case of European players, the by-laws of the CHL apply in compliance to the article 3.01.1.1. The league declares that there will be three transaction periods during the season. |
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Post by North Shore on Jan 14, 2008 19:18:35 GMT -4
It is tough to figure out what is going on with Marty. May be some issues with the coach and getting him to buy into the system.
I think Marty needs to be paired with Walker and Lachaine. A lot of our guys can not seem to feed him on the move because he is so fast. He also needs to improve his rush. When he crosses the blueline he needs to go laterally once in a while. He always heads for the corner and puts the brakes on. If he came in and made a lateral move and had Walker or Lachaine with him he'd either have a pass or a hard shot around the boards that could be picked up.
He has lots of potential but we just need to unleash it. He seems to have developped an attitude and yapps a lot on the ice and I wonder if he's carried this over into his dealings with the coach. He needs to get with Chouinards program.
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Post by p19peteg on Jan 15, 2008 12:43:23 GMT -4
Marty looked fast last year but I don't see it at all this year, right from game one. I thought he was trying to slow himself down to help his shooting and passing but I don't even see the effort that he gave us last year on the PK. I don't think he wants to be here
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Post by rockon on Jan 15, 2008 13:01:16 GMT -4
Marty looked fast last year but I don't see it at all this year, right from game one. I thought he was trying to slow himself down to help his shooting and passing but I don't even see the effort that he gave us last year on the PK. I don't think he wants to be here IMO. That's the problem with this year(or since Guy took over) he hasn't been able to get his game back and as for his PK time, there is none. I have to disagree on the "game one" point, when he came back from Phoenix training camp he looked very much like NHL draft material. |
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Post by p19peteg on Jan 15, 2008 13:22:02 GMT -4
Marty looked fast last year but I don't see it at all this year, right from game one. I thought he was trying to slow himself down to help his shooting and passing but I don't even see the effort that he gave us last year on the PK. I don't think he wants to be here IMO. That's the problem with this year(or since Guy took over) he hasn't been able to get his game back and as for his PK time, there is none. I have to disagree on the "game one" point, when he came back from Phoenix training camp he looked very much like NHL draft material. Have to disagree, haven't seen him blow past an opponent yet this year. Did it two or three times a game last year. |
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Post by Stuck in a Loop... on Jan 15, 2008 17:07:15 GMT -4
Yet Latal and MacKinley are the healthy scratches  Latal has been invisable since Guy took over... Doyle is over a pt per game.......forgive the 17yr old if he doesn't perform up to par every game. It happens to the best of players. Latal is in the Doghouse BIGTIME now...  |
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Post by rockon on Jan 16, 2008 9:15:45 GMT -4
Latal has been invisable since Guy took over... Doyle is over a pt per game.......forgive the 17yr old if he doesn't perform up to par every game. It happens to the best of players. Latal is in the Doghouse BIGTIME now... Oh yeah and that's too bad for the Rocket(and fans) and Latal. The Rocket could use his assets(experience and speed) with all the young talent in the lineup and Latal could use the opportunity to increase his odds in signing a pro contract. This would be a good time for Serge to step in and act as a mediator to help these guys move past their differences. |
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Post by IslandersHKY on Jan 16, 2008 10:41:56 GMT -4
This would be a good time for Serge to step in and act as a mediator to help these guys move past their differences. This is exactly what we don't want happening. Chouinard is an experienced coach and he should be allowed to coach this team how he sees fit. And, even if I haven't agreed with all of his decisions, so far I think he has really great job. Latal had an opportunity to play regular second line ice time against Drummondville and VdO. Obviously his performance wasn't up to expectations if he was a healthy scratch the following game. And I'm fine with that. I want a team who dresses and plays the players who are working the hardest and producing the most. I personally don't care about status. I agree with you Latal has the skill that he should really be a top forward on this team but he hasn't performed like one for a while now. |
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Post by rockon on Jan 16, 2008 11:40:42 GMT -4
This would be a good time for Serge to step in and act as a mediator to help these guys move past their differences. This is exactly what we don't want happening. Chouinard is an experienced coach and he should be allowed to coach this team how he sees fit. And, even if I haven't agreed with all of his decisions, so far I think he has really great job. Latal had an opportunity to play regular second line ice time against Drummondville and VdO. Obviously his performance wasn't up to expectations if he was a healthy scratch the following game. And I'm fine with that. I want a team who dresses and plays the players who are working the hardest and producing the most. I personally don't care about status. I agree with you Latal has the skill that he should really be a top forward on this team but he hasn't performed like one for a while now. Don't fool yourself in thinking that Serge has no say in the day to day hockey operations. This is not about status and there's more going on here then letting the coach run the team as he sees fit. Being a mediator is not necessarily telling the coach how to do his job and it could help resolve whatever the heck is going on here. We can certainly use that top forward down the stretch  |
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