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Trump
Feb 5, 2020 18:22:25 GMT -4
Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 5, 2020 18:22:25 GMT -4
I never thought I would see the United States teetering this close to being a failing democracy. It is unbelievable how many checks and balances have been destroyed and undermined for Trump. It is pretty terrifying leading up to the election, to be wondering if it will all go smoothly and without interference.
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Trump
Feb 5, 2020 19:40:37 GMT -4
Post by Joe Rogan on Feb 5, 2020 19:40:37 GMT -4
I never thought I would see the United States teetering this close to being a failing democracy. It is unbelievable how many checks and balances have been destroyed and undermined for Trump. It is pretty terrifying leading up to the election, to be wondering if it will all go smoothly and without interference. They had no chance to impeach him but they wasted taxpayer time and money trying for their own pride to prove some kind of meaningless point, which will only serve to strengthen his power. The dems are close to failing as a party. It's hard to point the finger at Trump. They literally can't even put someone up to run against him without tripping over their own feet. What a complete mess. But don't let the mainstream media fool you into thinking there's chaos going on. The markets are going strong so the rich and powerful are happy with Trump. They don't care about this childish political drama. Behind the scenes they are just pulling the strings that have to be pulled to keep him in power. Meanwhile people (the working class peasants) are fixated on Trump's twitter nonsense. It's a perfect storm for the banks, wall st and corporate rulers to keep the machine rolling, systematically extracting wealth from the working class.
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Trump
Feb 6, 2020 11:12:42 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 6, 2020 11:12:42 GMT -4
I never thought I would see the United States teetering this close to being a failing democracy. It is unbelievable how many checks and balances have been destroyed and undermined for Trump. It is pretty terrifying leading up to the election, to be wondering if it will all go smoothly and without interference. Of course there will be interference. But the complete lack of ethics and morals are shared by both sides. Listening to Joe Biden is cringe worthy. Bernie Sanders is the only one who makes sense and they label him as a socialist who will bankrupt their country regardless of what examples you pull from around the world to explain how their system could easily allow for things like proper medicare and post-secondary access but the American system is built on classes and racism and making sure the rich white people get their entitlements. Those who fall through the cracks and also strike it big turn against their own and advocate for "hard work" being the mantra....as if the thousands of Asians putting our iPhones together aren't working hard. There's just no empathy or compassion towards humanity. That's the most depressing part of the politics down there.
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Trump
Feb 6, 2020 19:46:05 GMT -4
Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 6, 2020 19:46:05 GMT -4
I never thought I would see the United States teetering this close to being a failing democracy. It is unbelievable how many checks and balances have been destroyed and undermined for Trump. It is pretty terrifying leading up to the election, to be wondering if it will all go smoothly and without interference. Of course there will be interference. But the complete lack of ethics and morals are shared by both sides. Shared? Maybe 90/10. The Republican side is completely corrupt right now. It is astounding it got to these depths.
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Post by Joe Rogan on Feb 6, 2020 20:49:34 GMT -4
Of course there will be interference. But the complete lack of ethics and morals are shared by both sides. Shared? Maybe 90/10. The Republican side is completely corrupt right now. It is astounding it got to these depths. You're completely dem/lib biased if you believe that. Corruption is rampant in both parties. Hilary almost became President and was so corrupt she lost an election to Trump...
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Trump
Feb 7, 2020 9:39:31 GMT -4
Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 7, 2020 9:39:31 GMT -4
Shared? Maybe 90/10. The Republican side is completely corrupt right now. It is astounding it got to these depths. You're completely dem/lib biased if you believe that. Corruption is rampant in both parties. Hilary almost became President and was so corrupt she lost an election to Trump... What Trump has done is so far beyond what would be considered "normal" corruption. He is completely immoral and spiteful, and the GOP has fallen in line behind him. He now has a personal AG who will screen any requests for political investigations, among everything else. It is out of control.
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Post by Joe Rogan on Feb 7, 2020 11:11:07 GMT -4
You're completely dem/lib biased if you believe that. Corruption is rampant in both parties. Hilary almost became President and was so corrupt she lost an election to Trump... What Trump has done is so far beyond what would be considered "normal" corruption. He is completely immoral and spiteful, and the GOP has fallen in line behind him. He now has a personal AG who will screen any requests for political investigations, among everything else. It is out of control. Like I said, it's clear all you read is partisan news... The truth is the entire political system is broken, infiltrated and corrupted. There is no real democratic process anymore. The narrative is controlled by partisan news and people eat it up like chowder. The left blames the right, the right blames the left. And around and around we go.
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Trump
Feb 7, 2020 11:25:43 GMT -4
Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 7, 2020 11:25:43 GMT -4
What Trump has done is so far beyond what would be considered "normal" corruption. He is completely immoral and spiteful, and the GOP has fallen in line behind him. He now has a personal AG who will screen any requests for political investigations, among everything else. It is out of control. Like I said, it's clear all you read is partisan news... The truth is the entire political system is broken, infiltrated and corrupted. There is no real democratic process anymore. The narrative is controlled by partisan news and people eat it up like chowder. The left blames the right, the right blames the left. And around and around we go. I read all major paper articles and watch multiple news sources. And I have eyes. And common sense. GFTO with your "you must only read partisan news" shit. The Mueller report alone resulted in 8 guilty Trump associates. Trump stole from his charity, and defrauded students at Trump U. He takes taxpayer money and pays his own properties excessive rates for him to golf every weekend. And everything about the Ukraine issue and "trial" was beyond justification. This is next level corruption, well beyond what you typically see. Of course politics has corruption and shady deals, pay for play etc. But the current Trump GOP is an idiot mafia.
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Trump
Feb 7, 2020 13:45:53 GMT -4
Post by yoyomamajoe on Feb 7, 2020 13:45:53 GMT -4
Like I said, it's clear all you read is partisan news... The truth is the entire political system is broken, infiltrated and corrupted. There is no real democratic process anymore. The narrative is controlled by partisan news and people eat it up like chowder. The left blames the right, the right blames the left. And around and around we go. I read all major paper articles and watch multiple news sources. And I have eyes. And common sense. GFTO with your "you must only read partisan news" shit. The Mueller report alone resulted in 8 guilty Trump associates. Trump stole from his charity, and defrauded students at Trump U. He takes taxpayer money and pays his own properties excessive rates for him to golf every weekend. And everything about the Ukraine issue and "trial" was beyond justification. This is next level corruption, well beyond what you typically see. Of course politics has corruption and shady deals, pay for play etc. But the current Trump GOP is an idiot mafia. Substitute Clinton for Trump and Libia for Ukraine and you understand what Joe Rogan means
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Trump
Feb 7, 2020 14:34:00 GMT -4
Post by SteveUL on Feb 7, 2020 14:34:00 GMT -4
Like I said, it's clear all you read is partisan news... The truth is the entire political system is broken, infiltrated and corrupted. There is no real democratic process anymore. The narrative is controlled by partisan news and people eat it up like chowder. The left blames the right, the right blames the left. And around and around we go. I read all major paper articles and watch multiple news sources. And I have eyes. And common sense. GFTO with your "you must only read partisan news" shit. The Mueller report alone resulted in 8 guilty Trump associates. Trump stole from his charity, and defrauded students at Trump U. He takes taxpayer money and pays his own properties excessive rates for him to golf every weekend. And everything about the Ukraine issue and "trial" was beyond justification. This is next level corruption, well beyond what you typically see. Of course politics has corruption and shady deals, pay for play etc. But the current Trump GOP is an idiot mafia. All the major newspapers are against Trump because he declared war on them. Nothing you can read or hear on this whole fiasco can be considered reliable and above board. I'm not defending Trump ... he is crook, a pig and an asshole ... but the Dems are just as bad. They seem to think that their only job is to find dirt on Trump while the business of the country just sits and waits for attention ... all so they can hopefully win the next election, a clear conflict of interest. From an outside view, its like the media and the Dems are very close to becoming Enemy of the State ... essentially trying to derail the President running the country. I have a feeling that this past weeks acquittal is going to result in something big and nasty happening ... like an assassination attempt. The whole US system is a shit show and if you think the Dems are not a major problem then you are an idiot ... they are off the rails. Trump is clearly a problem and we can all agree on that.
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Trump
Feb 7, 2020 15:52:50 GMT -4
Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Feb 7, 2020 15:52:50 GMT -4
I read all major paper articles and watch multiple news sources. And I have eyes. And common sense. GFTO with your "you must only read partisan news" shit. The Mueller report alone resulted in 8 guilty Trump associates. Trump stole from his charity, and defrauded students at Trump U. He takes taxpayer money and pays his own properties excessive rates for him to golf every weekend. And everything about the Ukraine issue and "trial" was beyond justification. This is next level corruption, well beyond what you typically see. Of course politics has corruption and shady deals, pay for play etc. But the current Trump GOP is an idiot mafia. All the major newspapers are against Trump because he declared war on them. Nothing you can read or hear on this whole fiasco can be considered reliable and above board. I'm not defending Trump ... he is crook, a pig and an asshole ... but the Dems are just as bad. They seem to think that their only job is to find dirt on Trump while the business of the country just sits and waits for attention ... all so they can hopefully win the next election, a clear conflict of interest. From an outside view, its like the media and the Dems are very close to becoming Enemy of the State ... essentially trying to derail the President running the country. I have a feeling that this past weeks acquittal is going to result in something big and nasty happening ... like an assassination attempt. The whole US system is a shit show and if you think the Dems are not a major problem then you are an idiot ... they are off the rails. Trump is clearly a problem and we can all agree on that. I will never agree that the Dems are as bad as Trump. Not even close. I could list 100 Trump/GOP actions that are blatantly conflicted or non-traditional - most of which are done for his or the GOP benefit only. I doubt anyone could come up with a list anywhere near 100 Democrat actions that appear only to benefit them - And you can probably go back to 2008 for that. Trump's activities over that same period is a novel, leading right into his first term as POTUS. If every major media outlet and journalist are against Trump, who are you guys listening to that tell the real unbiased story of US Politics?
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Post by lirette on Feb 7, 2020 18:19:38 GMT -4
A purple heart recipient in Vindman fired from the NSC for doing nothing but tell the truth under oath. His twin brother fired in the retaliation as well who had nothing to do with the testimony.
Normal corruption indeed.
The US is now under a dictatorship & it is surreal to watch.
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Trump
Feb 10, 2020 11:01:53 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 10, 2020 11:01:53 GMT -4
Shared? Maybe 90/10. The Republican side is completely corrupt right now. It is astounding it got to these depths. You're completely dem/lib biased if you believe that. Corruption is rampant in both parties. Hilary almost became President and was so corrupt she lost an election to Trump... Hillary Clinton is nowhere near the same level of corruption as Trump, you're falling into the "both sides" media narrative where Trump will throw baseless claims about others(usually things he feels about himself) and the media falls for it. Trump had his DOJ investigate Clinton's e-mail thing and his DOJ(led by his apointees) found nothing, it was all a campaign strategy. He is trying the same with Sanders(socialst!!!) and Biden(going after his son). Trump has so many scandals that the media doesn't have time to cover them all. Most administrations have 1 or 2 scandals over 4 years, Trump has 1 or 2 per month. Just since he was acquitted he has fired those that testified in retribution as a warning to those who would blow the whistle on corruption.
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Trump
Feb 10, 2020 11:03:59 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 10, 2020 11:03:59 GMT -4
I read all major paper articles and watch multiple news sources. And I have eyes. And common sense. GFTO with your "you must only read partisan news" shit. The Mueller report alone resulted in 8 guilty Trump associates. Trump stole from his charity, and defrauded students at Trump U. He takes taxpayer money and pays his own properties excessive rates for him to golf every weekend. And everything about the Ukraine issue and "trial" was beyond justification. This is next level corruption, well beyond what you typically see. Of course politics has corruption and shady deals, pay for play etc. But the current Trump GOP is an idiot mafia. Substitute Clinton for Trump and Libia for Ukraine and you understand what Joe Rogan means You have no clue what went on in Libya if you are comparing the two.
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Trump
Feb 10, 2020 11:08:42 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 10, 2020 11:08:42 GMT -4
I read all major paper articles and watch multiple news sources. And I have eyes. And common sense. GFTO with your "you must only read partisan news" shit. The Mueller report alone resulted in 8 guilty Trump associates. Trump stole from his charity, and defrauded students at Trump U. He takes taxpayer money and pays his own properties excessive rates for him to golf every weekend. And everything about the Ukraine issue and "trial" was beyond justification. This is next level corruption, well beyond what you typically see. Of course politics has corruption and shady deals, pay for play etc. But the current Trump GOP is an idiot mafia. All the major newspapers are against Trump because he declared war on them. Nothing you can read or hear on this whole fiasco can be considered reliable and above board. I'm not defending Trump ... he is crook, a pig and an asshole ... but the Dems are just as bad. They seem to think that their only job is to find dirt on Trump while the business of the country just sits and waits for attention ... all so they can hopefully win the next election, a clear conflict of interest. From an outside view, its like the media and the Dems are very close to becoming Enemy of the State ... essentially trying to derail the President running the country. I have a feeling that this past weeks acquittal is going to result in something big and nasty happening ... like an assassination attempt. The whole US system is a shit show and if you think the Dems are not a major problem then you are an idiot ... they are off the rails. Trump is clearly a problem and we can all agree on that. You can say the papers are against Trump but with Sinclair and Faux News he has two streams of propaganda that keep his/GOP supporters in the dark about what is really happening. His behavior is now seen as the new "normal" and his weekly scandals don't hit home as they should. His behavior is so far off the scale of outrageous it's not even funny. You're the one that seems to have a bias on reality, if you listen to the debates and town halls, 90% of the time the Democrats are not talking about Trump. The Dem controlled house has passed 400+ bills that the GOP won't even put through a vote in the Senate. Similar to how McConnell blocked documents and witnesses in the Trump Trial. They can't win on facts so they obstruct.
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