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Aug 31, 2017 14:34:44 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 31, 2017 14:34:44 GMT -4
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Aug 31, 2017 15:15:39 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Aug 31, 2017 15:15:39 GMT -4
thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-budget/348631-opinion-thank-trump-for-our-economys-3-percent-growthCopied and pasted this paragraph from the article : "Yes, this is just a preliminary snapshot based only on three months, so I’m not trying to get carried away here. But more good news is that the GDP forecast for the third quarter of 2017 is now estimated at 3.4 percent, as the economy is clearly picking up speed. These 3 percent-plus growth rates are especially impressive given that the economy crawled forward at just 1.6 percent growth in President Obama’s last year in office." Fuck it, I'll copy and paste this as well : "The economy is also growing in the right places. Government spending actually shrank slightly in the last quarter, so the all-important private sector economy grew even faster than 3 percent. Also, the most vital lead indicator for growth is business spending and investing. That has grown sharply since the Trump election, and it follows a drought in business spending on computers, factories, technology and equipment. If businesses aren’t growing and investing, jobs are stagnant and wages flatten out. Pay raises are rare when businesses are in the fetal position, as they have been for the last decade. Energy production, regulatory relief and a pro-business orientation of the Trump administration account for the higher growth so far." "If the Republicans can get some kind of tax cut passed this year and a repeal of ObamaCare, 3 percent growth can rev up to 4 percent and boy will that feel good. It's been more than 15 years since we’ve seen that kind of prosperity. So the America-doubters and the never-Trumpers appear to be dead wrong. Slow 2 percent growth isn’t the upper bound pace of economic progress for the United States. The long-term growth path for America is closer to 3.3 percent, and in this technological age, there’s no reason we can’t grow even faster than that." So 1.6% for 2016 under Obama and then 3.0% under Trump so far in 2017. What has he done, other than start cutting regulations that protect the American people (financial/environmental)? Agree with Jimmy (and most sane thinking people)... the economy has been steadily rising since 2010. He's been dealing with bigotry/racism/russia/staff turnover - and failed health care bills for most of his time so far. There was a bump because investors are predicting he'll be cutting costs and taxes on companies, but there are many downsides to that too. Also, he is a terrible human being. With respect to financial regulation it doesn't appear he is going to do anything too rash : www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-promised-to-do-a-big-number-on-dodd-frank-that-looks-unlikely/2017/06/15/acefc50c-51ed-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html?utm_term=.7d6b610d13d1Trump has actually stated he wants a 21st century version of Glass-Steagall which was originally brought in 1933 in response to the Great Depression and separated investment and commercial banks but it won't happen. One huge part of Dodd-Frank that needs to be dealt with is with medium sized banks and their ability to make loans which fund the real economy- that should get done. And the Volcker Rule which prevents banks like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase etc is not being repealed. Cutting costs for companies is bad? You must think most economic activity has to be done by the government then right? |
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Aug 31, 2017 15:22:20 GMT -4
Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Aug 31, 2017 15:22:20 GMT -4
What has he done, other than start cutting regulations that protect the American people (financial/environmental)? Agree with Jimmy (and most sane thinking people)... the economy has been steadily rising since 2010. He's been dealing with bigotry/racism/russia/staff turnover - and failed health care bills for most of his time so far. There was a bump because investors are predicting he'll be cutting costs and taxes on companies, but there are many downsides to that too. Also, he is a terrible human being. With respect to financial regulation it doesn't appear he is going to do anything too rash : www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-promised-to-do-a-big-number-on-dodd-frank-that-looks-unlikely/2017/06/15/acefc50c-51ed-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html?utm_term=.7d6b610d13d1Trump has actually stated he wants a 21st century version of Glass-Steagall which was originally brought in 1933 in response to the Great Depression and separated investment and commercial banks but it won't happen. One huge part of Dodd-Frank that needs to be dealt with is with medium sized banks and their ability to make loans which fund the real economy- that should get done. And the Volcker Rule which prevents banks like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase etc is not being repealed. Cutting costs for companies is bad? You must think most economic activity has to be done by the government then right? Cutting costs like regulations can be terribly bad for the public is what I am saying. |
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Aug 31, 2017 15:49:45 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 31, 2017 15:49:45 GMT -4
Cutting costs like regulations can be terribly bad for the public is what I am saying. Especially environmental, health and consumer protection. Trump somehow assumes corporations are honorable despite the fact that his companies have not been! |
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Sept 1, 2017 13:23:23 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Sept 1, 2017 13:23:23 GMT -4
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Sept 1, 2017 13:47:44 GMT -4
Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Sept 1, 2017 13:47:44 GMT -4
1) Why are you arguing about Antifa here? Is anyone arguing how good they are? 2) Why would they concern you at all as fascists, if Trump's regime doesn't concern you? They have no political power right now, unlike Trump. |
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Sept 1, 2017 14:45:15 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Sept 1, 2017 14:45:15 GMT -4
1) Why are you arguing about Antifa here? Is anyone arguing how good they are? 2) Why would they concern you at all as fascists, if Trump's regime doesn't concern you? They have no political power right now, unlike Trump. I am arguing about Antifa here because they are just as bad as the KKK/NeoNazis that Trump also condemned after Charlottesville! |
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Sept 5, 2017 18:44:27 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 5, 2017 18:44:27 GMT -4
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Sept 6, 2017 9:09:59 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Sept 6, 2017 9:09:59 GMT -4
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Sept 6, 2017 9:36:00 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 6, 2017 9:36:00 GMT -4
Didn't Trump say he would fix the problems in Chicago if elected? So far he's like 1 for 10 on his election promises...not very good. |
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Sept 6, 2017 10:33:25 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Sept 6, 2017 10:33:25 GMT -4
Didn't Trump say he would fix the problems in Chicago if elected? So far he's like 1 for 10 on his election promises...not very good. Trump would have to send the military into Chicago, south side Chicago, to handle the gang problems there but then he would be accused of being a fascist. Maybe Emanuel could re-establish the anti-gang squad he stupidly disbanded in 2012 .... maybe the citizens of Chicago could stop voting Democrat by default and maybe their city would improve to the point that it wasn't nicknamed the murder capital of the USA. |
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Sept 6, 2017 10:50:50 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 6, 2017 10:50:50 GMT -4
Didn't Trump say he would fix the problems in Chicago if elected? So far he's like 1 for 10 on his election promises...not very good. Trump would have to send the military into Chicago, south side Chicago, to handle the gang problems there but then he would be accused of being a fascist. Maybe Emanuel could re-establish the anti-gang squad he stupidly disbanded in 2012 .... maybe the citizens of Chicago could stop voting Democrat by default and maybe their city would improve to the point that it wasn't nicknamed the murder capital of the USA. Trump is the weakest politician ever, he has a majority in senate and the house and can't get anything done...and it's always somebody else's fault. Who knew that his snake oil salesman tactics would not work... |
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Sept 7, 2017 11:22:24 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 11:22:24 GMT -4
With all the comedy in US politics, what is there possibly left to laugh at in the states ?
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Sept 7, 2017 14:00:01 GMT -4
Post by moosefan1994 on Sept 7, 2017 14:00:01 GMT -4
With all the comedy in US politics, what is there possibly left to laugh at in the states ? Hillary's book is out soon, that should be good for a few laughs. |
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Sept 7, 2017 19:12:02 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2017 19:12:02 GMT -4
With all the comedy in US politics, what is there possibly left to laugh at in the states ? Hillary's book is out soon, that should be good for a few laughs. She's part of the same political comedy as Trump and and all dems and rep and all others. the republicans and democrats are all hypocrites and it's shameful for posters to defend either side as neither can claim the moral high ground after all the political games that have been played at this point. |
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