State of the Sea Dogs rebuild

[juliansteed]

I imagine Guay will be captain next year. Deakin-Poot should get an "A" if he's back. Otherwise the new 20 could probably get an "A" but what about the other 2? Would they both goto 17 year olds. Not sure any of the 18 or 19 year olds are alternate captain material. Maybe Sibley?

[Slap Shooter]

If the Dogs do go out and get Oscar Plandowski like some of the rumors are suggesting on this board and the French board. We will have a very young and skilled defense. It might not be ready to contend this year but it should Key word is Should be a very good defense corp and ready to contend next year.

Villeneuve, William - 17
Poirier, Jérémie - 17
DesRoches, Charlie - 17
Lehmus, Joona 17
Plandowski, Oscar - 16
Roy, Sasha - 20
Sibley, Brendan - 18

This is Hockey Prospects scouting report from the Draft Guide. They also had him ranked 7th over all.

Plandowski, Oscar
RD – Selects Hockey Academy 15U (USHS) – 6’01” 170

Plandowski is a Halifax native, but played this past season with Selects Hockey Academy and the previous
year with OHA Edmonton prep. He comes from a hockey family, with his father being an NHL scout and his
mother a power-skating coach back home in Nova Scotia. This past season, the offensive defenseman had
53 points in 48 games, including 8 goals and an added 4 points in 6 games at the Canada Games playing
for Nova Scotia. He made some nice progress over the course of the season; mostly in terms of decisionmaking.
He kept his game more simple and cut down on the turnovers that we saw at the beginning of the
season. He’s a good defenseman to rush the puck out of his zone; he has above-average skating abilities
and is quick to retrieve pucks in his own zone. He’s got above-average puck skills, good poise with the puck
in the offensive zone and some good creativity with the puck to create scoring chances. He’s got a good
point shot with above-average velocity and does a good job keeping it low for tips and rebounds. He’s got a
good compete level, is good one-on-one and, if needed, will play a physical game along the boards. He had
a great showing at the Canada Games even if his province (Nova Scotia) was a disappointment in Red
Deer. He was a more consistent performer compared to Cam Whynot, the other highly-touted defenseman.
Plandowski is committed to play college hockey at Quinnipiac University, but teams in the QMJHL will
definitely make a strong effort to get him to report to them. In May he was drafted in the USHL by Green
Bay.
Poulin, Félix

[Slap Shooter]

Good read on Josh Roy.

chl.ca/article/sea-dogs-roy-using-hockey-canada-summer-camp-to-ready-for-qmjhl-debut

[WhiteTyAffair]

John Moore is reporting that Peter Reynolds will attend Saint John training camp.

[switchback]

No suprise bags of money will convince most. Seadogs are the crooks of the Q

[Judas In My Mind]

Jul 25, 2019 8:15:10 GMT -4 switchback said:

No suprise bags of money will convince most. Seadogs are the crooks of the Q

You do realize that it doesn't mean Reynolds is staying this year, right? You were very quiet when Reynolds said he wasn't coming, and when he signed to play this year out west at a lower level.

If we're the crooks of the Q then Bathurst is that black sheep of the family popping out kids just for the increased welfare and child tax cheques. Or little cousin Johnny whose family bought him a shiny new 4 wheeler at a young age and let him ride around without a helmet on. Now Johnny spells his first name HAM.

[seadogs10]

My guess is he reports next year.

[ldub23]

Jul 25, 2019 8:15:10 GMT -4 switchback said:

No suprise bags of money will convince most. Seadogs are the crooks of the Q

This "Sea Dogs are crooks" is pure unmitigated bullshit. Since Switchback - and likely others - missed my post in the Sea Dogs Development Camp thread, I'll re-post;

In 2009, the Sea Dogs draft Pierre Durepos and Jonathan Huberdeau - who stated that they were leaning towards a US education package. Both sign and are key contributors to 2 Presidents Cups and one Memorial Cup. Charlie Coyle leaves Boston to join the 2012 team and plays a huge role as well. Dirty Ba$tard$ those NCAA $ea Dog$.

2011 - draft Connor Brickley, Ryan Segala and Marc Beiga. None sign

2012 - Drew Michals and Wiley Sherman - nope

2013 - Jack Eichel (even after refusing Halifax) and Joey Daccord - Nada

2014 - Jack Massie, Monty Graham, Marshall Rafai and Lincoln Griffin - NO

2015 - Morgan Barron, Marc McLaughlin and Ben Miragaes - I don't think so, Bud

2016 - Shane Bowers (after saying no to Screaming Eagles), Simon Eisliger, Devan Newhook, Matt Gould, Matthew Steinberg and Derek Fournier. Say goodnight, Mr. Young

2017 - Lynden Breen (local player), Tim Noble, Luke Wilson, Justin Hryckowian, Patrick Moynihan and Robby Griffin. We have a winner - welcome to Saint John, young master Luke.

2018 - Josh Lawrence (Yes - after the draft), Charlie DesRoches (PEI boy, upset the Islanders didn't draft him, walks down to Sea Dogs table and signs a decommitment form - YES), Dawson Stairs (well, Josh is going, sounds like a good plan - YES), Kale McCallum (doubtful), Connor Bradford (nice city but New England is nicer), Jack Williams ("you guys are very good but it's hard to walk away from my favorite NCAA team"), Cade DeStafini (Isn't New Brunswick a city in New Jersey). Lahaie et al - "those dirty cheating ba$tard$ - paying hundreds of thousands to bring in these recalcitrant players. The QMJHL should launch a investigation".

2019 - VDO at 6 - Evan Nause, VIC at 7 - Guillaume Richard ($UMaine? But the Tigres are my hometown team - sure I'll put on the jersey and smile - "what a good boy!"), SHE at 9 - Cam Whynot ("but he's not there? Still good risk for a top D"), RIM at 14 - Zachary Bolduc ("sure it'll cost $26,000 to get him to waive his Prep school fees - but we need to draft the best available and he's worth the wait"), BAT at 16 - Cole Huckins ("I don't care if he has said he's going State side, he's from Fredericton and would be honoured to play in Bathurst for a recent Memorial Cup champ - great move, Sly"), CHI at 18 - Oscar Plandowski ("sure he's said he's going south but, hey, he could be a huge add for a cup run next season - you go, girl")
...
The Sea Dogs at 21 select Peter Reynolds ... "OH MY GOD, those cheating ba$tard$ are at it again ... every F'n year they spend well over $100,000 trying to buy a championship ... Mr. Commissioner - where do we stand with the investigation and the new rules to stop those cheaters in Saint John???"
...
At 22 GAT takes Charles-Alexis Legault, at 29 CHI takes Jacob Guevin, and at 41 SHA takes Tovar Tinling ("NCAA be damned, we need more players from Quebec staying closer to home")
...
At 51, the Sea Dogs are proud to select from Selects Academy, Cameron MacDonald ... "There they go again - buying more high-end players - BA$TARD$!!!"
...
At 59, CHA takes Ryan Greene - "Great risk for a first round talent ... way to go Islanders, good on ya".
...
I'm Patrick Roy, I think I'll draft William Rousseau (80) Mikael Huchette (83), James Malatesta (116) and Eli Barnett (118). "Oh, St. Patrick, what would the QMJHL do without strong willed guys like you to blaze the trail to keep more kids in Quebec. You da man!!!"


I realize that jealous fans from other teams will continue to hate … but at least get your facts straight before posting more bull shit on the Dog Pound.

[Jack Bauer]

Jul 25, 2019 14:10:09 GMT -4 ldub23 said:

I realize that jealous fans from other teams will continue to hate … but at least get your facts straight before posting more bull shit on the Dog Pound.

Those complaining are not interested in facts as that gets in the way of their "everyone but MY team isn't playing fair" self righteousness that they thrive on.

Speaking on my own behalf: Get the best talent into the league. As a paying customer I want to see the best product even if that means a 60 regular season wins team rolls through Sydney every couple of years.

My own team building properly has nothing to do with what you spend. The haters can cringe at that but it's the truth. Rouyn and Bathurst won doing their own thing. Not by being ultra focused on acquiring the best players who didn't want to play for them but by focusing on the best players who did.

And yet their fans still whine when a Saint John gets a "named" player to commit after the draft. It's too bad some can't let go of their inferiority complex.

[Citris]

I'd also like to point out that Reynolds reporting to camp means nothing. He's from Fredericton. Easy to pay his own way and preserve his NCAA eligibility.

Ethan Phillips and Stephen Davis both showed up to Halifax's camp last year. Neither are or likely will ever be Mooseheads.

[dogsfan1978]

Jul 25, 2019 8:15:10 GMT -4 switchback said:

No suprise bags of money will convince most. Seadogs are the crooks of the Q

OMG I laughed very hard when I read this lol thank you for the good laugh, I needed that 😊

[chsb]

Jul 25, 2019 14:54:21 GMT -4 Jack Bauer said:

Jul 25, 2019 14:10:09 GMT -4 ldub23 said:

I realize that jealous fans from other teams will continue to hate … but at least get your facts straight before posting more bull shit on the Dog Pound.

Those complaining are not interested in facts as that gets in the way of their "everyone but MY team isn't playing fair" self righteousness that they thrive on.

Speaking on my own behalf: Get the best talent into the league. As a paying customer I want to see the best product even if that means a 60 regular season wins team rolls through Sydney every couple of years.

My own team building properly has nothing to do with what you spend. The haters can cringe at that but it's the truth. Rouyn and Bathurst won doing their own thing. Not by being ultra focused on acquiring the best players who didn't want to play for them but by focusing on the best players who did.

And yet their fans still whine when a Saint John gets a "named" player to commit after the draft. It's too bad some can't let go of their inferiority complex.

Fake news!

Check your facts, Switchback is an Islanders fan.

But that was just too easy, you had to poke at the Titan.

[Jack Bauer]

Jul 25, 2019 16:39:32 GMT -4 chsb said:

Jul 25, 2019 14:54:21 GMT -4 Jack Bauer said:

Those complaining are not interested in facts as that gets in the way of their "everyone but MY team isn't playing fair" self righteousness that they thrive on.

Speaking on my own behalf: Get the best talent into the league. As a paying customer I want to see the best product even if that means a 60 regular season wins team rolls through Sydney every couple of years.

My own team building properly has nothing to do with what you spend. The haters can cringe at that but it's the truth. Rouyn and Bathurst won doing their own thing. Not by being ultra focused on acquiring the best players who didn't want to play for them but by focusing on the best players who did.

And yet their fans still whine when a Saint John gets a "named" player to commit after the draft. It's too bad some can't let go of their inferiority complex.

Fake news!

Check your facts, Switchback is an Islanders fan.

But that was just too easy, you had to poke at the Titan.

He's a small market fan whining about what others are doing.

The small market he's is is irrelevant.

But as usual great job at not understanding the point and getting involved in the actual discussion and trying to interject to make it about what it isn't about.

[berner]

Jul 25, 2019 14:10:09 GMT -4 ldub23 said:

Jul 25, 2019 8:15:10 GMT -4 switchback said:

No suprise bags of money will convince most. Seadogs are the crooks of the Q

This "Sea Dogs are crooks" is pure unmitigated bullshit. Since Switchback - and likely others - missed my post in the Sea Dogs Development Camp thread, I'll re-post;

In 2009, the Sea Dogs draft Pierre Durepos and Jonathan Huberdeau - who stated that they were leaning towards a US education package. Both sign and are key contributors to 2 Presidents Cups and one Memorial Cup. Charlie Coyle leaves Boston to join the 2012 team and plays a huge role as well. Dirty Ba$tard$ those NCAA $ea Dog$.

2011 - draft Connor Brickley, Ryan Segala and Marc Beiga. None sign

2012 - Drew Michals and Wiley Sherman - nope

2013 - Jack Eichel (even after refusing Halifax) and Joey Daccord - Nada

2014 - Jack Massie, Monty Graham, Marshall Rafai and Lincoln Griffin - NO

2015 - Morgan Barron, Marc McLaughlin and Ben Miragaes - I don't think so, Bud

2016 - Shane Bowers (after saying no to Screaming Eagles), Simon Eisliger, Devan Newhook, Matt Gould, Matthew Steinberg and Derek Fournier. Say goodnight, Mr. Young

2017 - Lynden Breen (local player), Tim Noble, Luke Wilson, Justin Hryckowian, Patrick Moynihan and Robby Griffin. We have a winner - welcome to Saint John, young master Luke.

2018 - Josh Lawrence (Yes - after the draft), Charlie DesRoches (PEI boy, upset the Islanders didn't draft him, walks down to Sea Dogs table and signs a decommitment form - YES), Dawson Stairs (well, Josh is going, sounds like a good plan - YES), Kale McCallum (doubtful), Connor Bradford (nice city but New England is nicer), Jack Williams ("you guys are very good but it's hard to walk away from my favorite NCAA team"), Cade DeStafini (Isn't New Brunswick a city in New Jersey). Lahaie et al - "those dirty cheating ba$tard$ - paying hundreds of thousands to bring in these recalcitrant players. The QMJHL should launch a investigation".

2019 - VDO at 6 - Evan Nause, VIC at 7 - Guillaume Richard ($UMaine? But the Tigres are my hometown team - sure I'll put on the jersey and smile - "what a good boy!"), SHE at 9 - Cam Whynot ("but he's not there? Still good risk for a top D"), RIM at 14 - Zachary Bolduc ("sure it'll cost $26,000 to get him to waive his Prep school fees - but we need to draft the best available and he's worth the wait"), BAT at 16 - Cole Huckins ("I don't care if he has said he's going State side, he's from Fredericton and would be honoured to play in Bathurst for a recent Memorial Cup champ - great move, Sly"), CHI at 18 - Oscar Plandowski ("sure he's said he's going south but, hey, he could be a huge add for a cup run next season - you go, girl")
...
The Sea Dogs at 21 select Peter Reynolds ... "OH MY GOD, those cheating ba$tard$ are at it again ... every F'n year they spend well over $100,000 trying to buy a championship ... Mr. Commissioner - where do we stand with the investigation and the new rules to stop those cheaters in Saint John???"
...
At 22 GAT takes Charles-Alexis Legault, at 29 CHI takes Jacob Guevin, and at 41 SHA takes Tovar Tinling ("NCAA be damned, we need more players from Quebec staying closer to home")
...
At 51, the Sea Dogs are proud to select from Selects Academy, Cameron MacDonald ... "There they go again - buying more high-end players - BA$TARD$!!!"
...
At 59, CHA takes Ryan Greene - "Great risk for a first round talent ... way to go Islanders, good on ya".
...
I'm Patrick Roy, I think I'll draft William Rousseau (80) Mikael Huchette (83), James Malatesta (116) and Eli Barnett (118). "Oh, St. Patrick, what would the QMJHL do without strong willed guys like you to blaze the trail to keep more kids in Quebec. You da man!!!"


I realize that jealous fans from other teams will continue to hate … but at least get your facts straight before posting more bull shit on the Dog Pound.

Switchback will never respond to this. What a joke of a post he made.

[Judas In My Mind]

Jul 25, 2019 16:39:32 GMT -4 chsb said:

Fake news!

Check your facts, Switchback is an Islanders fan.

But that was just too easy, you had to poke at the Titan.

I will take the heat for this one. I was the first person to state Switchback was a Bathurst fan. Everyone else who did the same after I did was possibly my responsibility.

From the bottom of my heart guys