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Post by jimmy on May 15, 2020 7:58:37 GMT -4
Stealing this idea from the Islanders board ...
The idea is to come up with your all-time Wildcats roster to win a 7 game series ...
My thread, my rules: 20 year olds and euros don't matter (i.e. no max on either); roles matter (i.e. need some checkers and stay at home D, not just scoring stars); no 1/2 year players; criteria is what they did while a Wildcat - so if they went on to star elsewhere, that doesn't factor in; you can pick 7 d-men and 13 forwards
Here we go.
Goalies: Corey Crawford, Nicola Riopel
Defense: Brandon Gormley, Mark Barberio, Keith Yandle, David Savard, Alexei Tezikov, Nathan Saunders, Andrew MacDonald
Forward: Conor Garland, Steve Bernier, Sebastien Roger, Ivan Barbashev, Jakob Pelletier, Alex Khovanov, Zach Sill, Christian Gaudet, Scott Brannon, Dmitrij Jaskin, Jonathan Roy, Martins Karsums, Simon Laliberte
Lots of tough choices ... couldn't find a spot for the likes of Bourdon, Sanford, Spence on the blueline ... the Saulniers, McKenna, Karl Gagne, Phil Dupuis, Marek Hrivik, Goulet up front ... Damphousse in net ... and several others who you could also make a case for.
Anyone else want to try?
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on May 15, 2020 8:36:29 GMT -4
I wont try the whole team but I want to put a plug in for Alex Dubeau at G.
3 seasons with the Cats he played 167 reg season games and had a GAA in the 2.85 range. In 2015 he played 16 playoff games with that team which really took advantage of him being back there all offense.
He had a knack for holding Cats in games. Over 4000 shots faced and 9500 minutes.
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Post by catnut on May 15, 2020 8:58:10 GMT -4
Great lineup Jimmy.
On the checking line, I would give a strong consideration to the Chairman of the boards, Jérome Samson. But who do you replace in there?
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 15, 2020 9:08:04 GMT -4
I wont try the whole team but I want to put a plug in for Alex Dubeau at G. 3 seasons with the Cats he played 167 reg season games and had a GAA in the 2.85 range. In 2015 he played 16 playoff games with that team which really took advantage of him being back there all offense. He had a knack for holding Cats in games. Over 4000 shots faced and 9500 minutes. Dubeau had a solid career, but no way I can put him ahead of Crawford or Rio. I would put Bourdon ahead of Saunders for a lot more mobility and would have Dupuis or Alex Saulnier ahead of Gaudet. |
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Post by Doug Glatt on May 15, 2020 9:22:27 GMT -4
What a testament to the talent Moncton has had over the years. So hard to whittle it down to a starting roster, but here goes.
Goalies:
Nicola Riopel
Corey Crawford,
Defense:
Brandon Gormley - Mark Barberio
Keith Yandle - David Savard
Alexei Tezikov - Luc Bourdon
Forward:
C.Garland - I.Barbashev - S.Roger
S.Bernier- A.Khovanov - M.Karsums
Z.Sill - C.Gaudet - S.Brannon
D.Jaskin - P. Dupuis - J.Pelletier
PP
C.Garland - I.Barbashev - S.Bernier
K.Yandle. - A.Khovanov
HM: 2 Honorable mentions for each position.
K.Baker (checking line)
D.Hudgin ((checking line)
T.Ettinger (Shutdown D)
Z.Malatesta (Shutdown d)
Alex & Allain Saulnier (scoring line)
JF Damphouse (starting goalie)
R. Will(starting goalie)
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 15, 2020 9:39:39 GMT -4
A couple of things that directly impact who you take.
If you are playing today's hockey with the current rules, guys like Hudgin Saunders and Ettinger can't really keep up with elite quick players.
Also, today's game is based more on puck possession and less on grinding, having a Dupuis or Saulnier(s) likely helps you more than a more one dimensional checker that you used to see. You could have a strong center line that plays well at both ends like Barbashev, Dupuis A.Saulnier, maybe have Roy as your more offensive C and play Khovanov on the wing.
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Post by SteveUL on May 15, 2020 9:44:54 GMT -4
I wont try the whole team but I want to put a plug in for Alex Dubeau at G. 3 seasons with the Cats he played 167 reg season games and had a GAA in the 2.85 range. In 2015 he played 16 playoff games with that team which really took advantage of him being back there all offense. He had a knack for holding Cats in games. Over 4000 shots faced and 9500 minutes. Dubeau had a solid career, but no way I can put him ahead of Crawford or Rio. I would put Bourdon ahead of Saunders for a lot more mobility and would have Dupuis or Alex Saulnier ahead of Gaudet. Luc Bourdon only played 39 games (regular season and playoffs combined) in Moncton ... seems to violate the rules. |
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Post by SteveUL on May 15, 2020 9:48:54 GMT -4
A couple of things that directly impact who you take. If you are playing today's hockey with the current rules, guys like Hudgin Saunders and Ettinger can't really keep up with elite quick players. Also, today's game is based more on puck possession and less on grinding, having a Dupuis or Saulnier(s) likely helps you more than a more one dimensional checker that you used to see. You could have a strong center line that plays well at both ends like Barbashev, Dupuis A.Saulnier, maybe have Roy as your more offensive C and play Khovanov on the wing. By that same criteria, the Saulniers were very slow footed. They were deadly inside the blueline but not so great in between the blue lines. |
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Post by jimmy on May 15, 2020 9:58:05 GMT -4
Dubeau had a solid career, but no way I can put him ahead of Crawford or Rio. I would put Bourdon ahead of Saunders for a lot more mobility and would have Dupuis or Alex Saulnier ahead of Gaudet. Luc Bourdon only played 39 games (regular season and playoffs combined) in Moncton ... seems to violate the rules. In my mind, because he played parts of two seasons, he is eligible under my rules. I had him on the list originally, but ultimately bumped him - since he only played a relatively short time, and was injured and less than 100% while here, to me he didn't do enough in a Cats uniform to make it. |
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Post by jimmy on May 15, 2020 9:59:46 GMT -4
A couple of things that directly impact who you take. If you are playing today's hockey with the current rules, guys like Hudgin Saunders and Ettinger can't really keep up with elite quick players. Also, today's game is based more on puck possession and less on grinding, having a Dupuis or Saulnier(s) likely helps you more than a more one dimensional checker that you used to see. You could have a strong center line that plays well at both ends like Barbashev, Dupuis A.Saulnier, maybe have Roy as your more offensive C and play Khovanov on the wing. Re: Saunders - is my memory correct that he won the top defensive d-man in the league award at one point? Plus he was tough as nails with a side of crazy ... so call it a sentimental pick on my behalf if nothing else. Agree that his game may not translate all that wel to the current style of play. |
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Post by jimmy on May 15, 2020 10:00:38 GMT -4
Great lineup Jimmy. On the checking line, I would give a strong consideration to the Chairman of the boards, Jérome Samson. But who do you replace in there? I agree - Samson would be a great candidate ... certainly worthy of consideration. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 15, 2020 10:18:58 GMT -4
Dubeau had a solid career, but no way I can put him ahead of Crawford or Rio. I would put Bourdon ahead of Saunders for a lot more mobility and would have Dupuis or Alex Saulnier ahead of Gaudet. Luc Bourdon only played 39 games (regular season and playoffs combined) in Moncton ... seems to violate the rules. Largely because he was hurt after they acquired him. He stayed in Moncton 12 months. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 15, 2020 10:28:40 GMT -4
A couple of things that directly impact who you take. If you are playing today's hockey with the current rules, guys like Hudgin Saunders and Ettinger can't really keep up with elite quick players. Also, today's game is based more on puck possession and less on grinding, having a Dupuis or Saulnier(s) likely helps you more than a more one dimensional checker that you used to see. You could have a strong center line that plays well at both ends like Barbashev, Dupuis A.Saulnier, maybe have Roy as your more offensive C and play Khovanov on the wing. By that same criteria, the Saulniers were very slow footed. They were deadly inside the blueline but not so great in between the blue lines. They were definitely not great skaters, but they had top flight hockey sense, they played under the current rules, which are different than how the game was from 1995-2005. |
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Post by bois on May 20, 2020 8:14:31 GMT -4
A couple of things that directly impact who you take. If you are playing today's hockey with the current rules, guys like Hudgin Saunders and Ettinger can't really keep up with elite quick players. Also, today's game is based more on puck possession and less on grinding, having a Dupuis or Saulnier(s) likely helps you more than a more one dimensional checker that you used to see. You could have a strong center line that plays well at both ends like Barbashev, Dupuis A.Saulnier, maybe have Roy as your more offensive C and play Khovanov on the wing. Re: Saunders - is my memory correct that he won the top defensive d-man in the league award at one point? Plus he was tough as nails with a side of crazy ... so call it a sentimental pick on my behalf if nothing else. Agree that his game may not translate all that wel to the current style of play. i remember when some of your vet posters had him as the best dman in the league or in wildcats history and accused me of being jealous when i said he was extremely overrated...... his game certainly would not have transferred to a modern style thats for sure |
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Post by SteveUL on May 20, 2020 8:30:20 GMT -4
Re: Saunders - is my memory correct that he won the top defensive d-man in the league award at one point? Plus he was tough as nails with a side of crazy ... so call it a sentimental pick on my behalf if nothing else. Agree that his game may not translate all that wel to the current style of play. i remember when some of your vet posters had him as the best dman in the league or in wildcats history and accused me of being jealous when i said he was extremely overrated...... his game certainly would not have transferred to a modern style thats for sure We all know that you hated Saunders ... sad that an Island boy didn't like another Island boy following his dream. But Nathan Saunders won the Kevin Lowe trophy in 04-05 for the top defensive Dman, so it wasn't just Wildcat posters saying how good he was. Nobody ever said he was the best in Wildcats history, but we didn't have any starry history back then anyway. He wasn't much at all offensively, but he was strong defensively. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Lowe_Trophy |
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