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Post by ysj28 on Jun 18, 2020 9:27:23 GMT -4
Reports on Twitter that the Sea Dogs will be announcing Greg Gilbert as their new head coach imminently
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jun 18, 2020 10:13:31 GMT -4
Not sure how I feel about this hiring. He does have alot of experience as a player and as a coach. But he is another forward, when we need someone that can help the D.
I know this doesn't tell the whole story but he hasn't won any Championships as a coach.
He was a part of one or two of the Islanders cup years as a player.
Time will tell!
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Post by j3e4 on Jun 18, 2020 10:24:43 GMT -4
Not sure how I feel about this hiring. He does have alot of experience as a player and as a coach. But he is another forward, when we need someone that can help the D. I know this doesn't tell the whole story but he hasn't won any Championships as a coach. He was a part of one or two of the Islanders cup years as a player. Time will tell! My thoughts as well. We need a defenseman on this coaching staff. Hopefully I'm wrong and this turns out to be the right move. |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 18, 2020 10:32:14 GMT -4
You don’t hire a head coach based on what position they played ... and you don’t get to be an NHL head coach without having a pretty damn good understanding of how to play defense regardless of what position you used to play.
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Post by j3e4 on Jun 18, 2020 10:44:22 GMT -4
You don’t hire a head coach based on what position they played ... and you don’t get to be an NHL head coach without having a pretty damn good understanding of how to play defense regardless of what position you used to play. No, but normally you would already have a true defense coach coaching the defense. Georgie also said not long ago that they weren't necessarily looking for a head coach but a 3rd coach to join the coaching staff, leaving the option open to hire a defense coach and keep Cowan on as head coach. |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 18, 2020 10:49:17 GMT -4
You don’t hire a head coach based on what position they played ... and you don’t get to be an NHL head coach without having a pretty damn good understanding of how to play defense regardless of what position you used to play. No, but normally you would already have a true defense coach coaching the defense. Georgie also said not long ago that they weren't necessarily looking for a head coach but a 3rd coach to join the coaching staff, leaving the option open to hire a defense coach and keep Cowan on as head coach. It is a minor detail ... Danny Flynn was a forward, and you would be hard pressed to find anyone better at developing d-men in this league than him. |
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Post by j3e4 on Jun 18, 2020 10:58:54 GMT -4
No, but normally you would already have a true defense coach coaching the defense. Georgie also said not long ago that they weren't necessarily looking for a head coach but a 3rd coach to join the coaching staff, leaving the option open to hire a defense coach and keep Cowan on as head coach. It is a minor detail ... Danny Flynn was a forward, and you would be hard pressed to find anyone better at developing d-men in this league than him. That's fine but is Greg Gilbert Danny Flynn? Is he known for being great at working with defensemen? The 2nd question is not rhetorical. If the answer is yes, then great! Flynn had Paul Bouthillier working as a defense coach when he was in SJ. Did he have forwards as defense coaches in any of his other coaching jobs? Giving up 40+ plus shots almost every game last season makes me think that maybe it is not such a minor detail. When your goalie let's in 7 goals and still gets one of the 3 stars, what does that tell you? I get that their youth was part of the problem so they should be better this year, but a proven defensive coach would certainly help. |
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Post by j3e4 on Jun 18, 2020 11:20:52 GMT -4
That being said, I'm glad that they finally hired someone. Aside from my previously mentioned concerns, I do like his experience.
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Post by Briwhel on Jun 18, 2020 11:23:08 GMT -4
I hope Gilbert brings his aggressive forecheck.
Also, you should look at some of the D that has played for him before you question his ability to coach D.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 18, 2020 11:25:00 GMT -4
It is a minor detail ... Danny Flynn was a forward, and you would be hard pressed to find anyone better at developing d-men in this league than him. That's fine but is Greg Gilbert Danny Flynn? Is he known for being great at working with defensemen? The 2nd question is not rhetorical. If the answer is yes, then great! Flynn had Paul Bouthillier working as a defense coach when he was in SJ. Did he have forwards as defense coaches in any of his other coaching jobs? Giving up 40+ plus shots almost every game last season makes me think that maybe it is not such a minor detail. When your goalie let's in 7 goals and still gets one of the 3 stars, what does that tell you? I get that their youth was part of the problem so they should be better this year, but a proven defensive coach would certainly help. Flynn looked after the d-men in Moncton on two championship winning teams built around the blueline. I am not suggesting defensive play is a minor detail - complete contrary. I am saying having a former d-man on coaching staff is not a big deal - lots of successful coaches can work with d-men without having been one themselves. |
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Post by j3e4 on Jun 18, 2020 11:34:47 GMT -4
That's fine but is Greg Gilbert Danny Flynn? Is he known for being great at working with defensemen? The 2nd question is not rhetorical. If the answer is yes, then great! Flynn had Paul Bouthillier working as a defense coach when he was in SJ. Did he have forwards as defense coaches in any of his other coaching jobs? Giving up 40+ plus shots almost every game last season makes me think that maybe it is not such a minor detail. When your goalie let's in 7 goals and still gets one of the 3 stars, what does that tell you? I get that their youth was part of the problem so they should be better this year, but a proven defensive coach would certainly help. Flynn looked after the d-men in Moncton on two championship winning teams built around the blueline. Thank you. Good to know. I liked Cowan as a coach working with forwards and as an interm coach but so far I've not been impressed with him as a defense coach. Obviously Georgie sees something in him. Maybe he figures Cowan has learned enough from Flynn and Bouthillier. This upcoming season is when we will find out I guess, since this will be the strongest D group he's had to work with since taking over that role. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jun 19, 2020 11:05:09 GMT -4
Still haven't seen anything from the Dogs on the hiring but Louis Jean and Mikaël Lalancette are both tweeting that it's a done deal. So looks like we have a new coach.
Louis Jean
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Huge hire by the
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. Three-time Stanley Cup champion and former NHL coach, Greg Gilbert has been hired as head coach.
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Mikaël Lalancette
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On me confirme que c’est chose faite. Greg Gilbert est le nouvel entraîneur-chef des Sea Dogs.
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I am confirmed that it is done. Greg Gilbert is the new head coach of the Sea Dogs.
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jun 19, 2020 11:56:47 GMT -4
There it is. sjseadogs.com/article/sea-dogs-name-greg-gilbert-head-coachThe Sea Dogs have named former NHL forward and coach Greg Gilbert as their new Head Coach. Gilbert, a former 3-time Stanley Cup champion as a player, has 20 years of Head Coaching experience, including 189 games coached in the NHL with the Calgary Flames. Gilbert began the 2000-2001 season with the Flames as an Assistant before taking over Head Coach duties. The 58-yer-old has spent a total of nine seasons as Head Coach in the American Hockey League (AHL), four with St. Louis Blues affiliate Worcester IceCats (1996-2000), three with Toronto Maple Leafs affiliate Toronto Marlies (2006-2009), and two with Philadelphia Flyers affiliate Adirondack Phantoms (2009-2011). He received AHL Coach of the Year honours in 1997. “I’m so happy and grateful for the opportunity that Trevor and Mr. McCain have given me,” Gilbert said. “My job is to get this team where everybody wants it to be, champions, not only in the QMJHL but the Memorial Cup. It’s a great opportunity and a big challenge, no question about it – I’m really looking forward to it.” In junior hockey, Gilbert spent a total of eight seasons as Head Coach in the Ontario Hockey League (OHL), three seasons with the Mississauga IceDogs (2003-2006) and five seasons with the Saginaw Spirit (2011-2016). He received OHL Coach of the Year honours in 2012. Following the 2015-2016 season with Saginaw, Gilbert took a four-season hiatus from coaching and joined TSN as an NHL analyst. “This was a lengthy process and an important one,” said Sea Dogs President & General Manager, Trevor Georgie. “We cast a wide net and had many compelling candidates. Our ideal candidate needed to have NHL Head Coaching and Playing Experience, CHL Head Coaching experience, won as either a player or coach, and fit well with the team that we have in place. Greg fit all of our criteria. We expect our talented team to play hard, accountable, structured, and disciplined hockey. Winning is hard and Greg’s won three Stanley Cups. He will show our young men what they need to do and the sacrifices they need to make in order to win at the highest level.” As a player, Gilbert played in 837 NHL Regular Season Games and 133 NHL Playoff Games over fifteen seasons. His playoff total ranks 101st all-time for NHL forwards. He won two Stanley Cups with the New York Islanders (1981-1982 and 1982-1983) and one Stanley Cup with the New York Rangers (1993-1994). Gilbert finished his NHL career with 157 goals, 261 assists, and 738 penalty minutes (regular season and playoffs total). Gilbert credits both his Stanley Cup Champion Head Coaches, Al Arbour and Mike Keenan, for his passion for coaching and coaching style. “You learn a bit from each coach, you learn how to push your players a little,” said Gilbert. “It’s not always a kick in the back side, it’s learning the players and treating them as individuals, who needs what – some need a pat on the back and some need a kick in the back side – it’s learning how to create that relationship with your players. Both [Al & Mike] were unbelievable at doing that and it’s one thing I learned from both those gentlemen.” Gilbert is familiar with the Sea Dogs organization having worked with Sea Dogs Senior Advisor and St. Louis Blues pro scout Wayne Mundey with the St. Louis Blues, and having coached both Sea Dogs coaches Stefan Legein with the Mississauga IceDogs and Jeff Cowan with the Calgary Flames. “It’s great for me, I know both players and both people,” said Gilbert. “The one thing that’s consistent with the two gentlemen I’m going to be working with is they’re work horses. Their daily routine was work harder and better themselves and that’s what we have to get across to our team in Saint John. It’s going to be a lot of work, there’s good pieces in place but as we all know it takes a little bit more to win championships. That’s our plan as the coaching staff is to push our players and hopefully win, not just the QMJHL but the Memorial Cup.” Gilbert is the eighth head coach in franchise history and will take over head coaching duties from interim head coach, Jeff Cowan. “Jeff is one of the most humble, passionate, and loyal people,” Georgie said. “He has so much valuable hockey knowledge and rich experiences to draw upon, and is a critical part of our Sea Dogs DNA. He did a great job in the second half of the season with additional responsibilities and we want to thank him for that.” Fans will have the opportunity to hear from Gilbert this Monday on the team’s Facebook page when he will be featured as a guest on ‘Monday Night Mic’d’ at 7:30pm Atlantic on Facebook Live. |
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Post by scotian1 on Jun 19, 2020 12:34:53 GMT -4
Totally onboard, now we need a hockey season.
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Post by berner on Jun 19, 2020 13:29:51 GMT -4
Totally onboard, now we need a hockey season. Another big piece to our championship puzzle. |
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