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Post by Score on Apr 17, 2021 21:50:05 GMT -4
Has this franchise ever have a team before where their three 20 year Olds all had such strong season like they did this season.
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Post by bd on Apr 17, 2021 21:53:48 GMT -4
I'm a newer fan, started watching in the 2016-17 year. Weren't the 20's pretty good that year? Kielly, Meloche and someone else, plus Sprong and Chlapik. Probably not as statistically strong as this year though.
Side note: I hope we get at least one more home game so they can have a little something for them. Not ideal I'm sure to do it before a play off game but it would be nice regardless.
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Post by switchback on Apr 17, 2021 22:10:19 GMT -4
That year was Kielly, Neil and Beauchemin
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Post by bd on Apr 17, 2021 22:12:22 GMT -4
That year was Kielly, Neil and Beauchemin Ahh thank you, I got one right at least. |
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Post by L'il Boy on Apr 19, 2021 9:12:09 GMT -4
That year was Kielly, Neil and Beauchemin At the start of the year, it was Kielly, Jake Coughler, and Cody Donaghey. Neill and Beauchemin were brought in at the trade deadline. |
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Post by bois on Apr 19, 2021 10:11:45 GMT -4
hindsight shows the strongest group of 20's by far
but it's also important to note the great statlines are all skewed by only playing rebuilding clubs for 90% of the year
really no records from this year should be recognized
but the three 20's all deserve a great sendoff whenever that can be
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Post by Naomi on Apr 20, 2021 9:18:17 GMT -4
It's hard to really say. Do they put up as good of numbers if they're playing the other 16 teams all year? Although playing the same 2 teams over and over again poses its own challenge of teams picking up on strategy and just being motivated to play Halifax for the millionth time.
If they can go out and win us a championship or at least bring us close to one, then I would say they are the best group of 20s we've ever had.
Though 42 goals in half a season is pretty crazy regardless of the competition.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 20, 2021 9:50:42 GMT -4
It's hard to really say. Do they put up as good of numbers if they're playing the other 16 teams all year? Although playing the same 2 teams over and over again poses its own challenge of teams picking up on strategy and just being motivated to play Halifax for the millionth time. If they can go out and win us a championship or at least bring us close to one, then I would say they are the best group of 20s we've ever had. Though 42 goals in half a season is pretty crazy regardless of the competition. It is but its also what you'd expect a high end team to do regularly to a rebuilding team like CB especially. It's a shame the what if's will always exist with this years version of your team. Would have liked to see how they'd do with a full normal season. Such an added kick to the pants thanks to the pandemic. |
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Post by bois on Apr 20, 2021 11:01:11 GMT -4
Yeah i would love to see what kind of numbers Casey and Desrouisseaux especially could have put up in a normal year
even a year playing just the Maritime teams would be able to be compared to other great seasons but playing Cape Breton and Halifax stains it unfortunately...... the last player to average better than a goal per game was how long ago? Sorry Cedric Desrouisseaux doing it this year when previous career high was less than 30 is higghly unlikely
but it's not the players fault.... and they have done everything you could ask of them.... i just wish it could have been under better conditions for all
i do think Ellis would still be the top goalie in the league.... and maybe the shutouts record still happens
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Post by L'il Boy on Apr 20, 2021 12:06:47 GMT -4
Yeah i would love to see what kind of numbers Casey and Desrouisseaux especially could have put up in a normal year even a year playing just the Maritime teams would be able to be compared to other great seasons but playing Cape Breton and Halifax stains it unfortunately...... the last player to average better than a goal per game was how long ago? Sorry Cedric Desrouisseaux doing it this year when previous career high was less than 30 is higghly unlikely but it's not the players fault.... and they have done everything you could ask of them.... i just wish it could have been under better conditions for all i do think Ellis would still be the top goalie in the league.... and maybe the shutouts record still happens There have been 7 players that averaged a goal per game, or better, since 2000-01, although I'm not sure Sprong could have kept up that pace over a full year. Daniel Sprong had 32 in 31 games in 2016-17. Anthony Mantha had 57 in 57 games in 2013-14 Thomas Beauregard had 71 in 69 games in 2006-07 Maxime Boisclair had 70 in 70 games in 2005-06. Sidney Crosby had 62 in 61 games in 2004-05 Simon Gamache had 74 in 72 games 2000-01. Radim Vrbata had 56 in 55 games in 2000-01 |
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Post by countryboy on Apr 20, 2021 12:38:45 GMT -4
There's definitely a lot of questions that come out of the "what ifs" surrounding the circumstances of the messed up schedule. I agree that Ellis is cemented in as top goalie in the league. I don't like that we had to pay a big price to acquire him, he definitely should have commanded a big price given how good a goalie he is. We know what a good goalie looks like.... we had a long look at Matt Welsh over the past few years. I'm a huge Welsh fan and supporter, but I really think that Ellis is even on a different level that Matt Welsh. Honestly, I think St. Louis made a mistake playing him in major junior for his 20 y/o season. With where he is at in his development, he probably could have been playing in the ECHL or even the AHL this season. Desruisseaux is a guy who I'll be curious to follow. His numbers are insane, but you have to temper the excitement to think about the quality of competition of playing only Cape Breton or Halifax for half the season. Every year, there always seems to be an emergent 20 y/o offensive player who ends up getting a look in the pros based on an outstanding 20 y/o season on a good team. I'm talking about a player who maybe was by-passed during his year of NHL draft eligibility, but ended up really growing by leaps and bounds in his 20 y/o season. I'm talking about guys like Alex Barre-Boulet, who caught on in Tampa's system after his 20 y/o season, or Alexandre Alain who ended up with the same circumstances in the Habs system (note that he eventually pulled the plug on his pro career.. likely with all the covid uncertainty). Does Cedric get a crack on an AHL/NHL deal now based on his numbers? For those that love and believe in analytics, you might be familiar with the NHLe number. This is a leveler that basically equates what a season's point totals in his league equates to in the NHL. It's not a predictor, rather it's just a number that equates to what a particular season, say in the QMJHL, would be equal to in the NHL. A good prospect in his draft year or in his entry level seasons in the AHL should have an NHLe of 30 or higher for a forward. Cedric had an NHLe of 45... great numbers! But does it mean anything given our easy schedule. Is his next step an NHL/AHL deal (unlikely)? Is it a straight AHL deal? Or does he go to college like Casey.... or even Europe? Lots of questions for the next level for the graduating players. Yeah i would love to see what kind of numbers Casey and Desrouisseaux especially could have put up in a normal year even a year playing just the Maritime teams would be able to be compared to other great seasons but playing Cape Breton and Halifax stains it unfortunately...... the last player to average better than a goal per game was how long ago? Sorry Cedric Desrouisseaux doing it this year when previous career high was less than 30 is higghly unlikely but it's not the players fault.... and they have done everything you could ask of them.... i just wish it could have been under better conditions for all i do think Ellis would still be the top goalie in the league.... and maybe the shutouts record still happens |
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Post by Score on May 19, 2021 19:21:48 GMT -4
Beauregard making a case to come back as a 20yr old.....he's been playing very good hockey as of late.
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Post by countryboy on May 19, 2021 20:22:39 GMT -4
One factor that could be worth keeping in mind.... Budgell has played really well this playoff and had a strong regulars season. His stats don't tell the entire tale. Budgell should be a guy a pro team would love to have. I feel there's a decent shot he gets picked in the NHL draft this summer. With so many question marks, Budgell is a guy teams know exactly what they are getting with him. We have to be prepared for the possibility that he gets selected and the team opts to sign him and move him to the AHL (unlikely, but possible). Having Beauregard in the fold... just in case... would be a smart move. Beauregard making a case to come back as a 20yr old.....he's been playing very good hockey as of late. |
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Post by Edguy on May 23, 2021 14:21:39 GMT -4
What about Currie and Duffy's 20 year old season? Who was the 3rd 20 that year? Oligny?
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Post by countryboy on May 23, 2021 14:58:32 GMT -4
Without looking it up, I think Travis McIsaac was our 3rd 20 y/o player that year.
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