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Post by SteveUL on Apr 29, 2021 13:50:22 GMT -4
I obviously spoke too soon. All 3 teams are now 2-2, going 1-1 against each other. Looks like nobody wants this thing. The Wildcats probably deserve to win the series. Man saying that left a bitter taste. I almost choked after I clicked submit. LOL ... I don't see why Moncton deserves it. They deserve the wins they have, but may not win another. Four wins will get it for somebody. We could all be tied with 3 wins when the 9 games is up. The games between SJ and Bat are what probably matters now. Win the first one and you are in the driver seat. Bathurst has the advantage with two games left at home. SJ at Bat on Friday will be a key game. If Bat wins then SJ needs Mon to beat Bat the next night. If SJ wins then Bat needs Mon to beat SJ on Sunday.
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Post by Slap Shooter on Apr 29, 2021 15:17:25 GMT -4
Looks like nobody wants this thing. The Wildcats probably deserve to win the series. Man saying that left a bitter taste. I almost choked after I clicked submit. LOL ... I don't see why Moncton deserves it. They deserve the wins they have, but may not win another. Four wins will get it for somebody. We could all be tied with 3 wins when the 9 games is up. The games between SJ and Bat are what probably matters now. Win the first one and you are in the driver seat. Bathurst has the advantage with two games left at home. SJ at Bat on Friday will be a key game. If Bat wins then SJ needs Mon to beat Bat the next night. If SJ wins then Bat needs Mon to beat SJ on Sunday. I just feel with the injuries the WC have along with all the rookies and AF players that they have been working their butts off and want it more. SJ and AB don't seem to be as committed. If they played like they can sometimes and with the talent they have on paper one of them should probably be at least 3 -1.
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Post by Naomi on Apr 30, 2021 7:39:02 GMT -4
Well this mini tournament got interesting with Moncton pulling out the win last night. Everyone 2-2 with three games left. Good luck to all three teams.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 30, 2021 7:49:58 GMT -4
Well this mini tournament got interesting with Moncton pulling out the win last night. Everyone 2-2 with three games left. Good luck to all three teams. Tonight's game is the key. If Bathurst wins, you guys need Moncton to beat Bathurst on Saturday to have a shot. If you guys win, you hold your own destiny in your hands.
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Post by j3e4 on Apr 30, 2021 21:12:35 GMT -4
Now we need Moncton to beat Bathurst but hopefully not by too much. If it ends 3-3, we're out if Moncton ends with the best GF/(GF + GA) percentage, as Bathurst would win the tie-break against us for 2nd spot.
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Post by j3e4 on Apr 30, 2021 21:24:19 GMT -4
Best case scenario is we all go 3-3 and we host Moncton. Next best is we all go 3-3 and play in Bathurst. Odds of either of those happening aren't great but not astronomical so at this point I'd gladly settle for the road game.
Haven't done the numbers but we had the best ratio going into tonight and then only lost by 1. So hosting would be the more likely scenario I think.
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Post by juliansteed on May 1, 2021 1:13:13 GMT -4
There will be no road tie-breaking game at this point. We are either done (after the 6th game in Moncton) or with some luck could host Moncton. We are still ahead of Bathurst in the GF/GA category. They can't pass us and still have all 3 teams finish 3-3. Moncton could still pass us with all teams going 3-3, but if that were to happen they would host Bathurst.
Without getting into the percentages, I see that Moncton is -3 and we are +3. In order for us to all go 3-3, we'd have to be +4 or more. So Moncton would need to beat Bathurst by quite a margin and lose close to us to pass us in that category with all teams finishing 3-3. It appears that if there is a tie-breaking game, we will be hosting Bathurst. That's about the only thing we have going for us at this point. The ironic part of all this is that Bathurst would be better off getting blown out against Moncton than losing a close game to them.
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Post by SteveUL on May 1, 2021 20:27:04 GMT -4
There will be no road tie-breaking game at this point. We are either done (after the 6th game in Moncton) or with some luck could host Moncton. We are still ahead of Bathurst in the GF/GA category. They can't pass us and still have all 3 teams finish 3-3. Moncton could still pass us with all teams going 3-3, but if that were to happen they would host Bathurst. Without getting into the percentages, I see that Moncton is -3 and we are +3. In order for us to all go 3-3, we'd have to be +4 or more. So Moncton would need to beat Bathurst by quite a margin and lose close to us to pass us in that category with all teams finishing 3-3. It appears that if there is a tie-breaking game, we will be hosting Bathurst. That's about the only thing we have going for us at this point. The ironic part of all this is that Bathurst would be better off getting blown out against Moncton than losing a close game to them. The tie breaker is not quite that simple. Its gf/(gf +ga) ... standard Hockey Canada tie breaker formula.
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Post by switchback on May 1, 2021 21:53:22 GMT -4
Bathurst moves on
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Post by juliansteed on May 2, 2021 13:00:02 GMT -4
There will be no road tie-breaking game at this point. We are either done (after the 6th game in Moncton) or with some luck could host Moncton. We are still ahead of Bathurst in the GF/GA category. They can't pass us and still have all 3 teams finish 3-3. Moncton could still pass us with all teams going 3-3, but if that were to happen they would host Bathurst. Without getting into the percentages, I see that Moncton is -3 and we are +3. In order for us to all go 3-3, we'd have to be +4 or more. So Moncton would need to beat Bathurst by quite a margin and lose close to us to pass us in that category with all teams finishing 3-3. It appears that if there is a tie-breaking game, we will be hosting Bathurst. That's about the only thing we have going for us at this point. The ironic part of all this is that Bathurst would be better off getting blown out against Moncton than losing a close game to them. The tie breaker is not quite that simple. Its gf/(gf +ga) ... standard Hockey Canada tie breaker formula. I understand that but for the point I was making I didn't feel it was necessary to get into details which is why I prefaced the 2nd paragraph with "Without getting into percentages...". Going into last night's game, Bathurst had the exact same GA and GF so they were obviously .500. SJ had more GF than GA so they were obviously above .500. Moncton had more GA than GF so they were obviously below. 500. What the exact percentages were, I didn't care to calculate and even if I did, I would not have cared to complicate my post further by including it. The point was that going into last night's game, there was no possible scenario in which all 3 teams could finish 3-3 with Bathurst winning the tie-breaker. It's also why I never said an exact total by which Moncton would need to beat Bathurst to pass SJ in that category (and leave room for a close loss to SJ the next night) and simply said "by quite a margin". And with every goal Bathurst would score, that margin could potentially get bigger.
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Post by j3e4 on May 2, 2021 23:47:58 GMT -4
Didn't see the game but just watched the highlights. Man that was depressing watching 2 disheartened teams barely celebrate any of the goals with little to no crowd reaction in what would otherwise have been an exciting game. Tim Roszsell, whom we know is a pro, was the only one showing much emotion.
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