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Post by doubleshift on Jan 11, 2022 11:10:57 GMT -4
Ditto for me. I took a pass this year, just too frustrating watching the same mistakes night after night. Almost exclusively having to do with their defensive play. Can't believe that a complete overhaul was needed after a long rebuild, that's gotta be on TG.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 11, 2022 11:13:53 GMT -4
Have to feel for the players too as playing the same teams every night had to be brutal. The tough part for the teams is the lack of revenue makes it tougher to reward those supporting you through hard times. You need every dollar until you get to the other side of this...even the bigger markets. Even before the Omicron shutdown attendances have been the lowest they've been in history at times according to Jamie Tozer on twitter (station nation). Which I wonder what that comes down too. The older crop of every game going fans who don't want to risk it because covid? Is it possible family income is down so a 4 person family night is a bit of stretch right now? Not sure we'll ever know the 100% true factor but here's hoping all the markets can make it through the next 12-32 months and see where the world is at with live sport. Overall attendance is going to be down just due to how the league has ran itself. There's a fraction of the entertainment level now if you compare to 15 or 20 years ago. There's a fraction of the impact Europeans and Americans thanks to rules meant to "level the playing field" which just really means handcuffing big markets and means a lower caliber product. Is there any 1 player in the league you need to go out of your way to see this season? I see 3 D ranked for round 1 of '22 NHL draft...and I would guess that if you polled season ticket holders in the Maritimes they wouldn't be able to name 1 of them. Is there any team worth going out of your way to watch? Charlottetown is #1 overall and is very deep. But for a casual fan in another market there's no interest in paying to watch Hulton coach a deep team and there's no players that move the needle in terms of excitement in another market. As time goes on the league continues to get more stale and uninteresting. Zero personality. Zero rivalries. If you dont have Eastlink in NS or PEI there's essentially zero media coverage. Live sports are going to be fine after the pandemic. Not so sure about every QMJHL market unless there's a radical change in how business is done. You cant keep shrinking the money you give out, keep asking for more money from your fans, yet expect business to stay strong. The NHL only survives in 32 markets with revenue sharing. As a whole there is zero doubt the league is stronger with 32 teams sharing revenue and being united as 1 league then it is thinking every team needs to stand on its own merit. So if a Halifax or Quebec cant spend 6 figures on a Russians release...and dont want to be in a 6 team league in 8 years...does nobody really not see the value in some revenue sharing to make the league stronger overall? Because I can see a hell of a Jr A league in 15 years...and 3 Q teams in the region if absolutely nothing changes. |
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Jan 11, 2022 19:27:13 GMT -4
Wow ! using the attendance numbers on the previous page Moncton lost roughly 1650 fans. I paid $ 650 for center ice A seating in 2019-2020 , that's adds up to more than $ 1 million dollars on regular season alone !
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Post by frogmorton2 on Jan 11, 2022 19:33:10 GMT -4
Yanic Crete has left the team and will be playing in the CCHL for the rest of the year.
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Post by iraca on Jan 11, 2022 19:36:44 GMT -4
I think the only reason Gatineau's numbers would increase is the shiny new building the have this year.
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Post by jimmy on Jan 12, 2022 9:09:17 GMT -4
Wow ! using the attendance numbers on the previous page Moncton lost roughly 1650 fans. I paid $ 650 for center ice A seating in 2019-2020 , that's adds up to more than $ 1 million dollars on regular season alone ! I suspect revenue losses are even more pronounced than the attendance figures would indicate ... I went to a couple of games, and IMO, no way were there as many people in the building as the announced attendance - a lot of empty seats, likely corporate owned season tickets and/or individual season ticket holders who decided to renew and support the team, but still not comfortable attending games. So, if the percentage of seats sold that are actually occupied is down, you can bet that concessions, 50/50, merchandise, etc. are down by more than the announced attendance drop. No doubt also seeing less corporate advertising revenue ... between businesses tightening their belts and reducing their spending (think hard hit sectors like restaurants), and moving their spending to where the consumers are - doesn't make as much sense to pay for a rink sign to advertise to an empty building. It is going to be a long road back for these teams revenue wise ... won't happen until restrictions brought on by the pandemic are over, and the public/business community is convinced that they are over for good. |
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 13, 2022 8:40:50 GMT -4
Laforge and Gartley should be headed to Grand Falls (if they haven't already). Per his page on the Q site, the Dogs signed Zach Welsh (I have literally been opening his page every single day since Sherbrooke waived him waiting for this) with an invite to camp for next year. Right now, our depth is Desroches, Drapeau, Despont, Gartley, Bilodeau, so Welsh will have a decent chance of making the team. Edit: For clarity on Laforge and Gartley, see t.co/jeMgL45f7Z (Station Nation's post about the trade deadline and the roster moves) |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jan 14, 2022 10:56:25 GMT -4
I was hoping more from TG on the Desoyners trade that went south but wasn't expecting anything. stationnation.blogspot.com/2022/01/georgie-pleased-with-deadline-moves.htmlDESNOYERS STAYS PUT One of the biggest trade deadline stories last week involved a trade that didn't happen. It had been widely reported that the Sea Dogs would acquire Elliot Desnoyers from the Halifax Mooseheads in a blockbuster deal on deadline day. But as the hours inched closer to the 1 p.m. deadline and the Dogs were busy making other moves - which included trading one of the reported pieces of the Desnoyers trade (prospect Natan Grenier) to the Wildcats - it became apparent that the deal wasn't going to happen. Desnoyers, likely in his final season of junior hockey, remains a member of the Mooseheads - a peculiar move by a rebuilding team. When asked about the situation, Georgie said "no comment." |
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Post by j3e4 on Jan 14, 2022 12:46:38 GMT -4
I was hoping more from TG on the Desoyners trade that went south but wasn't expecting anything. stationnation.blogspot.com/2022/01/georgie-pleased-with-deadline-moves.htmlDESNOYERS STAYS PUT One of the biggest trade deadline stories last week involved a trade that didn't happen. It had been widely reported that the Sea Dogs would acquire Elliot Desnoyers from the Halifax Mooseheads in a blockbuster deal on deadline day. But as the hours inched closer to the 1 p.m. deadline and the Dogs were busy making other moves - which included trading one of the reported pieces of the Desnoyers trade (prospect Natan Grenier) to the Wildcats - it became apparent that the deal wasn't going to happen. Desnoyers, likely in his final season of junior hockey, remains a member of the Mooseheads - a peculiar move by a rebuilding team. When asked about the situation, Georgie said "no comment."Yeah I would say you were right not to expect anything. Whatever happened, I don't blame him for not saying anything for several reasons. Nothing good could have come from it. |
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Post by Citris on Jan 19, 2022 13:01:13 GMT -4
Even before the Omicron shutdown attendances have been the lowest they've been in history at times according to Jamie Tozer on twitter (station nation). Which I wonder what that comes down too. The older crop of every game going fans who don't want to risk it because covid? Is it possible family income is down so a 4 person family night is a bit of stretch right now? Not sure we'll ever know the 100% true factor but here's hoping all the markets can make it through the next 12-32 months and see where the world is at with live sport. Overall attendance is going to be down just due to how the league has ran itself. There's a fraction of the entertainment level now if you compare to 15 or 20 years ago. There's a fraction of the impact Europeans and Americans thanks to rules meant to "level the playing field" which just really means handcuffing big markets and means a lower caliber product. Is there any 1 player in the league you need to go out of your way to see this season? I see 3 D ranked for round 1 of '22 NHL draft...and I would guess that if you polled season ticket holders in the Maritimes they wouldn't be able to name 1 of them. Is there any team worth going out of your way to watch? Charlottetown is #1 overall and is very deep. But for a casual fan in another market there's no interest in paying to watch Hulton coach a deep team and there's no players that move the needle in terms of excitement in another market. As time goes on the league continues to get more stale and uninteresting. Zero personality. Zero rivalries. If you dont have Eastlink in NS or PEI there's essentially zero media coverage. Live sports are going to be fine after the pandemic. Not so sure about every QMJHL market unless there's a radical change in how business is done. You cant keep shrinking the money you give out, keep asking for more money from your fans, yet expect business to stay strong. The NHL only survives in 32 markets with revenue sharing. As a whole there is zero doubt the league is stronger with 32 teams sharing revenue and being united as 1 league then it is thinking every team needs to stand on its own merit. So if a Halifax or Quebec cant spend 6 figures on a Russians release...and dont want to be in a 6 team league in 8 years...does nobody really not see the value in some revenue sharing to make the league stronger overall? Because I can see a hell of a Jr A league in 15 years...and 3 Q teams in the region if absolutely nothing changes. I'm not even sure I know the 3 off the top of my head... Luneau Lamoureux Warren That's my best guess |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jan 19, 2022 13:13:32 GMT -4
Overall attendance is going to be down just due to how the league has ran itself. There's a fraction of the entertainment level now if you compare to 15 or 20 years ago. There's a fraction of the impact Europeans and Americans thanks to rules meant to "level the playing field" which just really means handcuffing big markets and means a lower caliber product. Is there any 1 player in the league you need to go out of your way to see this season? I see 3 D ranked for round 1 of '22 NHL draft...and I would guess that if you polled season ticket holders in the Maritimes they wouldn't be able to name 1 of them. Is there any team worth going out of your way to watch? Charlottetown is #1 overall and is very deep. But for a casual fan in another market there's no interest in paying to watch Hulton coach a deep team and there's no players that move the needle in terms of excitement in another market. As time goes on the league continues to get more stale and uninteresting. Zero personality. Zero rivalries. If you dont have Eastlink in NS or PEI there's essentially zero media coverage. Live sports are going to be fine after the pandemic. Not so sure about every QMJHL market unless there's a radical change in how business is done. You cant keep shrinking the money you give out, keep asking for more money from your fans, yet expect business to stay strong. The NHL only survives in 32 markets with revenue sharing. As a whole there is zero doubt the league is stronger with 32 teams sharing revenue and being united as 1 league then it is thinking every team needs to stand on its own merit. So if a Halifax or Quebec cant spend 6 figures on a Russians release...and dont want to be in a 6 team league in 8 years...does nobody really not see the value in some revenue sharing to make the league stronger overall? Because I can see a hell of a Jr A league in 15 years...and 3 Q teams in the region if absolutely nothing changes. I'm not even sure I know the 3 off the top of my head... Luneau Lamoureux Warren That's my best guess I’m not sure that there even is 3.. Lamoureux/Luneau are depending on which ranking you go by. I haven’t seen Warren up there and don’t think he should be but there might only be 3 guys from the Q who could even be 1st round picks if you include Gaucher. It’s a bad year for the Q draft, maybe 3 1st rounders, no high end talent and not a lot of high end returning talent as far as NHL potential goes across the league. I know in past seasons, I’ve made special trips to games to watch guys who are coming through the league.. MacKinnon, Grigorenko, Fucale, Drouin, Couturier, Huberdeau and the loaded Sea Dogs, Zadina, Ehlers, Meier, Mantha, Chabot, Beuvillier, Dobson, Gauthier, Veleno and others. Now some of these guys haven’t had NHL success, some have had great success but they were all draws to me because of their NHL potential and the fact I wanted to see them live. I’ll never forget going to watch Grigorenko play in Halifax and seeing MacKinnon score 4 goals… it was my introduction to just how special he could be. The league just doesn’t have that draw with any players right now though. |
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Post by Citris on Jan 19, 2022 14:16:00 GMT -4
Yea Warren was more a shot in the dark. Luneau and Lamoureux are pretty good tho
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 19, 2022 14:19:18 GMT -4
Yea Warren was more a shot in the dark. Luneau and Lamoureux are pretty good tho I believe Sportsnet may have put a list out around that post and Gaucher was in the last couple picks of round 1. |
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Post by Citris on Jan 19, 2022 16:31:47 GMT -4
Yea Warren was more a shot in the dark. Luneau and Lamoureux are pretty good tho I believe Sportsnet may have put a list out around that post and Gaucher was in the last couple picks of round 1. Ah I wasn't even aware he was a late birthday. Plus you said D so I was trying to think of 3 D who MAY go in the first round. I personally don't think Warren is a 1st round talent but... there's always been those who overvalue him because of his size. It wouldn't be unheard of for somebody to take a reach on him. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Jan 19, 2022 19:58:33 GMT -4
ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1855634/hockey-lhjmq-coronavirus-nouveau-brunswick-bas-saint-laurentQMJHL: New Brunswick teams could train in Bas-Saint-Laurent The three teams would like to take advantage of the health measures linked to the pandemic, which are less restrictive in Quebec than in New Brunswick, to resume their activities. Currently in New Brunswick, only sports activities with people from the same family bubble are authorized. Ultimately, it is the leaders of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey LeagueLHJMQ who will have to decide whether or not to accept the request from the New Brunswick teams. At the same time, the league is continuing its discussions with New Brunswick Public Health to allow teams to resume training as soon as possible. “While awaiting a decision, our teams are exploring all possible avenues to resume training. » — A quote from Maxime Blouin, communications manager, Quebec Major Junior Hockey League According to the communications manager for the City of Rivière-du-Loup, Pascal Tremblay, the Sea Dogs organization would have liked to be in Rivière-du-Loup this week. For its part, the City of Mont-Joli says it has not had any requests in this regard so far. For her part, a spokeswoman for Trois-Pistoles points out that her Municipality has been approached, but that the arena will not be rented for this purpose. Patrick Bergeron (go to the author's page) Patrick Bergeron Twitter p
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