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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Dec 27, 2022 10:59:19 GMT -4
Wearing a Titans jersey everywhere for 12 months is hardly an embarrassment. Still within 5 years of their national championship. I grew up despising the Titan. Russo and Tremblay in particular. No idea why, I was 10 then, haha. They have been good, but I'd still be embarrassed and my dad would be mortified didn't Cape Breton win a big 7 game series vs Sags coming back from 0-3 games down a long while back 20+ years. The prolific scorer was on Eagles a kid from some place like Alardville NB not far from Bathurst. Bathurst met Eagles in round 2 and beat them. I could see that impacting a young Eagles fan to not like the Titan. We all have our archnemesis.
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Post by hal on Dec 27, 2022 11:45:24 GMT -4
With Langois being a Late Birth Date doesn't it make sense to leave him in Junior ? They have until 24 to sigh him ...Right ? Let him come back and hopefully become dominate . Patrick Roy probably has some inside info on that .
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Post by sc74 on Dec 27, 2022 11:51:31 GMT -4
With Langois being a Late Birth Date doesn't it make sense to leave him in Junior ? They have until 24 to sigh him ...Right ? Let him come back and hopefully become dominate . Patrick Roy probably has some inside info on that . This is what happened with Marc-André Gaudet. If he was coming as an OA Chicoutimi would have kept him but they were told a few weeks ago St.Louis was planning to sign him and give him time in the AHL next season.
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Post by glacebaysportsfan on Dec 27, 2022 12:09:51 GMT -4
With Langois being a Late Birth Date doesn't it make sense to leave him in Junior ? They have until 24 to sigh him ...Right ? Let him come back and hopefully become dominate . Patrick Roy probably has some inside info on that . This is what happened with Marc-André Gaudet. If he was coming as an OA Chicoutimi would have kept him but they were told a few weeks ago St.Louis was planning to sign him and give him time in the AHL next season. Trade was announced: We received 3rd in 2024 and 2nd in 2025
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Post by sherwood1020 on Dec 27, 2022 12:18:43 GMT -4
If Rousseau is even thought about to be the player coming back in the trade, then this is easily one of their worst trades in recent memory. Why would we even consider an OA goaltender for that price when we're not competing for anything next year.
At face value this is even worse than the Desruisseaux trade which had terrible optics as well.
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Post by jboyz on Dec 27, 2022 12:23:09 GMT -4
Take this with a grain of salt but I’m hearing there’s a good chance Brayden Schmitt is an Eagle by the deadline.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2022 12:27:02 GMT -4
If Rousseau is even thought about to be the player coming back in the trade, then this is easily one of their worst trades in recent memory. Why would we even consider an OA goaltender for that price when we're not competing for anything next year. At face value this is even worse than the Desruisseaux trade which had terrible optics as well. We have no idea what this trade fully entails. One guy on the french board hopes it's Rousseau.
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Post by hal on Dec 27, 2022 12:40:26 GMT -4
Take this with a grain of salt but I’m hearing there’s a good chance Brayden Schmitt is an Eagle by the deadline. Well he is not a Sly Type .....small defenceman .
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Post by galixon on Dec 27, 2022 12:44:26 GMT -4
Take this with a grain of salt but I’m hearing there’s a good chance Brayden Schmitt is an Eagle by the deadline. There’s a good chance he’s an Eagle in the coming hours.
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 27, 2022 13:45:07 GMT -4
Acquiring Schmidt is interesting if true. 18 YO, captain of the Armada, and NS born. seems he would be a 2.5 year player as well but I can’t imagine the price is THAT cheap right??? he could be a very good D as an OA….
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 27, 2022 14:12:56 GMT -4
I grew up despising the Titan. Russo and Tremblay in particular. No idea why, I was 10 then, haha. They have been good, but I'd still be embarrassed and my dad would be mortified didn't Cape Breton win a big 7 game series vs Sags coming back from 0-3 games down a long while back 20+ years. The prolific scorer was on Eagles a kid from some place like Alardville NB not far from Bathurst. Bathurst met Eagles in round 2 and beat them. I could see that impacting a young Eagles fan to not like the Titan. We all have our archnemesis. Great memory. I just looked into it, and now it makes a hell of a lot more sense. Eagles were eliminated by the Titan in 2001 and 2002, which would have been my first years going where I was old enough to understand what was going on. If I recall correctly, Russo stole the show in the 2002 series. Domenic Noël is who you are thinking of. He is from Laméque, which I had no idea of until now, always thought he was from Quebec. He was my first ever favourite hockey player.
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Post by sherwood1020 on Dec 27, 2022 14:17:24 GMT -4
I don't want to rile up the Eagles' fans or anything. Sly, Goyens and a few others seem to have the fans more than willing to give them a chance. From my perspective though, heading into this past draft, I really thought that the Eagles' scouting/drafting group were on the hot seat. They needed to hit a home run with 1st overall, and they needed to have a strong draft overall to kickstart the rebuild after a couple of stutter steps. Desruisseaux, Cloutier, Shields, there were reports that Lavoie was talking about not reporting for a couple of weeks - and then the draft of Kulich in the European draft. I mean - those are all risky picks for a team needing to have a strong draft. Even if it turns out - I don't know. You need to really do your homework. There are some great success stories - Cam Squires comes immediately to mind - but this area in scouting and drafting right now needs to be your strength. Who am I to recommend to the Eagles' owners - I know. But IMO - recruiting, the pre-draft interview process, the distribution of scouting staffs - whatever it is that's the root - it's a gut feeling that isn't going away. Happy holidays to everybody. Don't drink and drive. Well said. I wholeheartedly agree with your point that the scouting staff has had some definite hits with guys like Squires and even potentially a later round guy with upside like Patterson. But the emphasis going forward will have to become NOT having to trade away umpteen players away just to try to assemble a roster. I think right now the fan base is willing to give Couterier the benefit of the doubt because he's basically trying to undo the mess he was left with and picking up alot of players he is more familiar with and knows their character and potential. There is alot of head scratches with the game of musical chairs that seems to be going on with our back end this year and the draft picks that have come and gone with them.
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 27, 2022 14:21:16 GMT -4
If Rousseau is even thought about to be the player coming back in the trade, then this is easily one of their worst trades in recent memory. Why would we even consider an OA goaltender for that price when we're not competing for anything next year. At face value this is even worse than the Desruisseaux trade which had terrible optics as well. If Rousseau is the future, I would say there is a more than good chance he never puts on an Eagles jersey. Similar to Lawrence this year, which Sly (or Carierre if it was already done) did well out of. Even if he plays half a year here, he should be by far the best goalie available. If (it's a big if) he is the future, it isn't for him to play the whole season here. Desruisseaux trade isn't great, but 16th overall and somewhere in the 20-25 overall range for the 13th pick a year earlier isn't terrible. Somewhere between decent and mediocre, but not terrible.
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Post by sherwood1020 on Dec 27, 2022 14:31:38 GMT -4
If Rousseau is even thought about to be the player coming back in the trade, then this is easily one of their worst trades in recent memory. Why would we even consider an OA goaltender for that price when we're not competing for anything next year. At face value this is even worse than the Desruisseaux trade which had terrible optics as well. If Rousseau is the future, I would say there is a more than good chance he never puts on an Eagles jersey. Similar to Lawrence this year, which Sly (or Carierre if it was already done) did well out of. Even if he plays half a year here, he should be by far the best goalie available. If (it's a big if) he is the future, it isn't for him to play the whole season here. Desruisseaux trade isn't great, but 16th overall and somewhere in the 20-25 overall range for the 13th pick a year earlier isn't terrible. Somewhere between decent and mediocre, but not terrible. Spitballing here for sure but, A similar deal in the summer had CA Lavallee go from SHA to CHI this summer for only a 4th. And the arguable top OA goaltender this year (Lapenna) went for a 2nd, 3rd and 5th picks along with spare parts. Any OA goaltender would never bring back a return like Lawrence where Halifax had to pay a 1st and 2nd for him as a .5 year rental. We had a good return on that trade because SJ was hosting the Mem and overpaid for everyone.
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Post by blueeagle on Dec 27, 2022 14:38:36 GMT -4
I don't want to rile up the Eagles' fans or anything. Sly, Goyens and a few others seem to have the fans more than willing to give them a chance. From my perspective though, heading into this past draft, I really thought that the Eagles' scouting/drafting group were on the hot seat. They needed to hit a home run with 1st overall, and they needed to have a strong draft overall to kickstart the rebuild after a couple of stutter steps. Desruisseaux, Cloutier, Shields, there were reports that Lavoie was talking about not reporting for a couple of weeks - and then the draft of Kulich in the European draft. I mean - those are all risky picks for a team needing to have a strong draft. Even if it turns out - I don't know. You need to really do your homework. There are some great success stories - Cam Squires comes immediately to mind - but this area in scouting and drafting right now needs to be your strength. Who am I to recommend to the Eagles' owners - I know. But IMO - recruiting, the pre-draft interview process, the distribution of scouting staffs - whatever it is that's the root - it's a gut feeling that isn't going away. Happy holidays to everybody. Don't drink and drive. I don't think there was a risk taken with the 1st round picks this year. They talked in the buildup that they would not risk taking guys who wouldn't report. They knew Lavoie was coming, I think they knew Shields was coming, and I get the sense Desruisseaux also committed but has since changed his mind (which you can still hold the org partly responsible for, to counter my own point). The Kulich pick was admittedly a waste. You're 100% right about the scouting department being on the hotseat. Despite always trying to look on the bright side, I would say I actually have a more negative view of our drafting/scouting than you do. 2021 looks like it could be an excellent draft, despite making a bad pick at #8. Squires, Daigle, and Patterson are all guys that I think could be 1st rounders if you did a redraft in a year or so. But the '20, '19, and '18 drafts are terrible. In those years, our picks in the top 35 were used to take Drover, Langlois, David Doucet, Zach Welsh, Ruccia, and Canning. Langlois is the only player who even approaches being worth the pick that was spent on them. The jury is still very much out on the scouting dept IMO. I defend Sly on the basis of time. It's just too early to tell how these deals will work out, and there are a lot of kneejerk reactions to trades that won't even be finished until this summer. This, coupled with the fact that he has explained the unique nature of his situation in Bathurst, means I think we should try not to view him through the lense of his work there. I also think he's done well on the bigger deals he's made since he came here so far. That said, I definitely would prefer we were less active. I can see where the idea that we are shuffling deck chairs on the titanic comes from. I stay optimistic because there is logic to the deals I have seen so far. But I definitely am not completely sold, and I can see many ways that this is similar to the same old Eagles.
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