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Post by blueeagle on Dec 27, 2022 15:49:24 GMT -4
You got to think that Sly is probably under the same pressure right now that he was in Bathurst to bring a championship here or else risk losing the team. Difference is though, IMO none of these overpayments though will amount to any extra tickets sold. There seems to be an extreme amount of desperation in some of these moves to build an "on paper" winner when these 2004's are in their OA years. I'm of the opinion that the '04 OA year is the best year to target anyway. But this is pulling the trigger on that super early and with a massive amount of risk.
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Post by Briwhel on Dec 27, 2022 16:12:25 GMT -4
So Couturier just paid to downgrade from Langlois/Buteau to Biggar/Schmitt :S
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Post by jboyz on Dec 27, 2022 16:17:16 GMT -4
Well, the next “town hall” meeting should be interesting.
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Post by Citris on Dec 27, 2022 16:28:39 GMT -4
This chess board has too many dimensions for me to even take a guess at what the plan is
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Post by justathought on Dec 27, 2022 16:29:15 GMT -4
Will someone please update and post our remaing draft picks for the next 3 years. I don't have the stomach.
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Post by hockey1981 on Dec 27, 2022 16:35:08 GMT -4
Will someone please update and post our remaing draft picks for the next 3 years. I don't have the stomach. I think it's this 2023: 1-2SJ-2Dru-2Chi-4She-4QC-5RN-6-6Cha-7-8-8BC-9-11-13-14 2024: 1SJ-1Chi-2BLB-3SJ-3Rim-4Mon-4-5VDO-6Vic-6Cha-7Sha-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 2025: 2Que-4-5-5Chi-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14
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Post by scotiahockey on Dec 27, 2022 16:36:47 GMT -4
People can keep giving Sly the benefit of the doubt on these trades if they chose but there’s nothing he’s done, that makes me think this “rebuild” which I’m not even sure you can call it, is going to work. He tries to trade his way into a “contender” which rarely if ever works, that’s what he does.
The picks and trades will be plentiful and I’ll be consistent with this, he’s not the guy to lead a rebuild. He doesn’t have the patience to do it. IMO this is going south and to think you can trade your way from 17th in the league to a championship in 2 years is laughable when you don’t have the base core of 04/05 players to do it.
Ruccia doesn’t look like an OA option on a contender right now. Arnold doesn’t look like a top 4 D at 19 IMO. I think Daigle and Lavoie should be and Schmitt may be very good but there’s still some fairly big answers to fill on the back end. Campbell/Fullerton are depth pieces up front. Houde/Newcombe are good but I’m also not ready to sit here and declare they’re amongst the best OA’s in the league at 20 when traditionally the teams contending have some of the best OA’s. Patterson/Shields should be very very good at 18/19 and Squires should be elite.
Where’s high end elite guys at 18/19 that are going to insulate this teams depth and make them contenders? Right now I don’t know that most of them are on the roster or in the system so more trades will have to be made. If it does work, how much will it cripple the future years of the team?
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Post by howitzer on Dec 27, 2022 16:43:16 GMT -4
What. The. Fuck. Is. That.
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Post by gocapebreton on Dec 27, 2022 16:48:50 GMT -4
Big price to pay, at this stage, for an '04. There's no guarantee, this early, he plays junior at 20. Sly must be running out of trade options. He'll go into trade withdrawal syndrome early January. I was expecting a better trade partner, than Quebec, for Langlois.
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Post by JEagle on Dec 27, 2022 16:54:33 GMT -4
Will someone please update and post our remaing draft picks for the next 3 years. I don't have the stomach. This is what I got after the Schmitt trade. 2023 (16 Picks Total) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Round 1 Round 2 - Chicoutimi Round 2 - Drummondville Round 2 - Saint John Round 4 - Quebec Round 4 - Sherbrooke Round 5 - Rouyn-Noranda Round 6 Round 6 - Charlottetown Round 7 - Victoriaville Round 8 Round 8 - Baie-Comeau Round 9 Round 11 Round 13 Round 14 ================================ 2024 (20 Picks Total) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Round 1 - Blainville-Boisbriand Round 1 - Chicoutimi Round 1 - Saint John Round 2 - Blainville-Boisbriand Round 3 - Rimouski Round 3 - Saint John Round 4 Round 4 - Moncton Round 5 - Charlottetown Round 5 - Val-d'Or Round 6 - Charlottetown Round 6 - Victoriaville Round 7 - Shawinigan Round 8 Round 9 Round 10 Round 11 Round 12 Round 13 Round 14 ================================ 2025 (13 Picks Total) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Round 2 - Québec Round 4 Round 5 Round 5 - Chicoutimi Round 6 Round 7 Round 8 Round 9 Round 10 Round 11 Round 12 Round 13 Round 14
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Post by JEagle on Dec 27, 2022 16:57:13 GMT -4
Schmitt even asked for a trade closer to home.
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Post by sherwood1020 on Dec 27, 2022 17:02:25 GMT -4
Schmitt even asked for a trade closer to home. It's funny, when our players ask to be closer to home we give them away for next to nothing.
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Post by JEagle on Dec 27, 2022 17:18:20 GMT -4
So what the hell are we looking at for lines assuming Sly is done.
Johnson - Ivan - Shields Newcombe - Boutin - Houde Patterson - Squires - Fullarton Henderson - Hébert - Campbell Ex: McCluskey
Biggar - Thurston Daigle - Schmitt Shortall - Lavoie Ex: Arnold, Pattengale
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 27, 2022 17:20:36 GMT -4
Honestly it would’ve made sense for Halifax to go after Schmitt considering they’re targeting 2 years but I bet they seen that price and said no….
Schmitt is good, but the price paid is a price we see on most BIG name players, I see Schmitt as a number 3/4 guy on a contender, not a 1/2 and you’s paid a 1/2 type price…it’s still possible he’s amazing as an OA and could prove us all wrong but right now it’s steep for sure. Sly still has a lot in the bank to make a strong team but having a high amount of high picks doesn’t mean just toss them at everything, you still need to be smart with trades..
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Post by sherwood1020 on Dec 27, 2022 17:27:08 GMT -4
So what the hell are we looking at for lines assuming Sly is done. Johnson - Ivan - Shields Newcombe - Boutin - Houde Patterson - Squires - Fullarton Henderson - Hébert - Campbell Ex: McCluskey Biggar - Thurston Daigle - Schmitt Shortall - Lavoie Ex: Arnold, Pattengale I was thinking about this a bit earlier. We now have a huge logjam on D with a guy like Arnold who Sly paid good for this summer now forced out. If we were looking to improve for this year and beyond I don't think we've improved at all for the second half of the season.
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