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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 2, 2022 13:07:17 GMT -4
As far as the wide open style, it's as wide open as it ever was, it just now gets there in a different way. Our goalies have a GAA of 4.93 and save % of .869...while it might be as wide open it doesn't just get there differently in my opinion. Not when you're this bad, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 13:12:12 GMT -4
5 Rookie D in the line up every night..have a look at the Shot vs Dangerous Shot stat of the Eagles..it's the highest in the league. Lapenna's #'s would be the shits as well.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 2, 2022 13:13:24 GMT -4
100% AGREE. The problem is not with what's on the ice, evolution of the game can not be controlled by the CHL. Everything else around it can..and yes, very little is being done. I would be curious to see what the revenue looks like from the CHL TV packages being sold on a yearly basis. SOME of the evolution is 100% controllable. I agree some is natural but you can absolutely try and change some things to create more buzz within your own league. Example: The QMJHL cost itself a Jack Eichel. That was its own doing and 100% controllable. If they didn't change that its very safe to assume other high end Americans and/or Europeans play in the QMJHL over the past decade. Does that change fighting and hitting? No. But why let evolution take that out of your game AND try and limit what big markets can do player wise? At some point you need to draw a line for small markets and say that you can't draw 1400 per and do nothing to really change that yet also be mad when Quebec signs a star European or Halifax attracts a kid from New England.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2022 13:15:58 GMT -4
Jack, you should of just phoned me..it would have been a lot less typing...wow.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 2, 2022 13:59:02 GMT -4
Jack, you should of just phoned me..it would have been a lot less typing...wow. Where is the fun in that?
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Post by catnut on Nov 2, 2022 14:16:40 GMT -4
In terms of entertainment, there has been a drop in personalities in hockey. Players have been told for years by analysts and commentators to "act like you've done it before". For example, when Slavkofsky scored his first NHL goal, he was reasonably excited and kind of mocked the Dman he beat. The old commentators were quick to jump on him that he should smarten up. 15-20 years ago, you had big personalities on the ice, and I'm not talking about fighting. You had guys like Mike Ribeiro who could get crowds going. The most recent player that comes to mind like that, and that is to a much lesser extent, was Conor Garland. In the 90's and early 2000's most teams had one player that you just loved to hate and that would bring excitement in the arenas. Now they all give the same canned answers and the same "act cool" vibe on the ice. They're all buddies off the ice through the advent of social media. Maybe with young guns like Zegras in Anaheim or Svechnikov in Carolina showing their imagination on the ice, we will see a renewed energy at lower levels.
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Post by Naomi on Nov 2, 2022 15:06:21 GMT -4
Personality is a strange thing in hockey. Ovi showed a lot of personality and was hated for it, but then Marchand will say some lame insult a junior high kid could come up with and he's praised as a great personality.
There needs to be a line between good personality and loudmouth annoyance. So many star players are incredibly boring to listen to though (Price and McDavid for example)
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Nov 2, 2022 15:30:53 GMT -4
Personality is a strange thing in hockey. Ovi showed a lot of personality and was hated for it, but then Marchand will say some lame insult a junior high kid could come up with and he's praised as a great personality. There needs to be a line between good personality and loudmouth annoyance. So many star players are incredibly boring to listen to though (Price and McDavid for example) In what world is Marchand a great personality? He lost my respect the day I watched him spit at kids at Center 200 many moons ago.
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Post by Naomi on Nov 2, 2022 16:20:42 GMT -4
Personality is a strange thing in hockey. Ovi showed a lot of personality and was hated for it, but then Marchand will say some lame insult a junior high kid could come up with and he's praised as a great personality. There needs to be a line between good personality and loudmouth annoyance. So many star players are incredibly boring to listen to though (Price and McDavid for example) In what world is Marchand a great personality? He lost my respect the day I watched him spit at kids at Center 200 many moons ago. It's definitely not my opinion, I never liked him. But I have heard people praise his personality. Though when most players have the personality of unsalted crackers, it's not hard for an outspoken person to stand out.
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 2, 2022 20:34:20 GMT -4
No entertainment to be had in most of these games? Please, elaborate and tell me what you would like to see? I have seen several comments on here about fighting and the entertainment it used to provide, I guess it's ok for a 17 year old to get his head smashed into the ice as long as it's entertaining for some old guy who paid $18 for a ticket. Maybe the intermission entertainment should somehow involve the old guy, while the 17 and 18 year olds cheer from the sidelines. Nothing pisses me off more then someone who has never taken 10 punches to the face talk about entertainment. wut the heck Fighting in hockey exclusively makes me sad, whether it's pro or junior... That's not what I'm looking for to entertain me at all.
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Post by hal on Nov 3, 2022 6:21:52 GMT -4
You can go all around the Real Issue all you want but it was 2019 when we had our last Go for it Year and here we are soon to be 3 years later and we are a Last Place Team . Even with a pass for 2019 and 2020 , we are not where we should be ......we have collected assets but that is gonna take more time to fit together ......Fans don't have the patience to watch losing .....that's the truth . On a side note ....Why do other Organizations not have to go through these Long Periods of Rebuilds ? and if they do have a down year or two they are rewarded with a Deep Run and a Great Stretch of Going to the Rink after that ............Have we had anything to get really excited about since 2007 ? I am not counting those Dumont 2nd Round exits as a Great Stretch . Nobody on Earth knows what the 2019-20 Team would have done , so once again we have a situation where it is hurry up and wait .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 8:54:11 GMT -4
No one is going around the real issue, Eagles fans did not invent the concept of "not supporting a loser", that exists in all sports. Right now the Eagles suck, plain and simple, the reasons for which may differ from fan to fan, I for one look at injuries as the main factor that we are not closer to .500 on the season, but hey my glass is half full.
Someone pulled the conversation to "entertainment", I will defend the players and the evolution of the game all day. I see Connor Garland was mentioned above, 9 min shifts and zero respect for teammates is the farthest thing from entertainment in my mind, but to others maybe that is what they pay to see.
Personally, I like what I see from the young players and our accumulated assets, whether or not the long time fan or season ticket holder can jump on board and have patience to watch it play out, is a personal choice.
In the meantime, Management can easily find ways to bring bodies into the building while we all piss and moan about the entertainment value of a $22 ticket. There have been some great suggestions by posters on this board.
Hats off to the Islanders..they have some serious promo's going on to attract fans.. Student/Teacher night. $4.00 drinks ...brilliant. For of age students..Thursday was always the best night!
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 3, 2022 9:35:44 GMT -4
No one is going around the real issue, Eagles fans did not invent the concept of "not supporting a loser", that exists in all sports. Right now the Eagles suck, plain and simple, the reasons for which may differ from fan to fan, I for one look at injuries as the main factor that we are not closer to .500 on the season, but hey my glass is half full. Someone pulled the conversation to "entertainment", I will defend the players and the evolution of the game all day. I see Connor Garland was mentioned above, 9 min shifts and zero respect for teammates is the farthest thing from entertainment in my mind, but to others maybe that is what they pay to see. Personally, I like what I see from the young players and our accumulated assets, whether or not the long time fan or season ticket holder can jump on board and have patience to watch it play out, is a personal choice. In the meantime, Management can easily find ways to bring bodies into the building while we all piss and moan about the entertainment value of a $22 ticket. There have been some great suggestions by posters on this board. Hats off to the Islanders..they have some serious promo's going on to attract fans.. Student/Teacher night. $4.00 drinks ...brilliant. For of age students..Thursday was always the best night! When you only have 1 win its way more then some injuries. Garland put up back to back 120+ point seasons. Played in 33 playoff games over those 2 seasons. Yet was the furthest from entertainment to you? And management can easily...EASILY lol...find ways to bring bodies into a building that hasn't seen bodies in it for years. You're bordering on delusional with some of this lol
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Post by bois on Nov 3, 2022 9:59:42 GMT -4
No one is going around the real issue, Eagles fans did not invent the concept of "not supporting a loser", that exists in all sports. Right now the Eagles suck, plain and simple, the reasons for which may differ from fan to fan, I for one look at injuries as the main factor that we are not closer to .500 on the season, but hey my glass is half full. Someone pulled the conversation to "entertainment", I will defend the players and the evolution of the game all day. I see Connor Garland was mentioned above, 9 min shifts and zero respect for teammates is the farthest thing from entertainment in my mind, but to others maybe that is what they pay to see. Personally, I like what I see from the young players and our accumulated assets, whether or not the long time fan or season ticket holder can jump on board and have patience to watch it play out, is a personal choice. In the meantime, Management can easily find ways to bring bodies into the building while we all piss and moan about the entertainment value of a $22 ticket. There have been some great suggestions by posters on this board. Hats off to the Islanders..they have some serious promo's going on to attract fans.. Student/Teacher night. $4.00 drinks ...brilliant. For of age students..Thursday was always the best night! When you only have 1 win its way more then some injuries. Garland put up back to back 120+ point seasons. Played in 33 playoff games over those 2 seasons. Yet was the furthest from entertainment to you? And management can easily...EASILY lol...find ways to bring bodies into a building that hasn't seen bodies in it for years. You're bordering on delusional with some of this lol I'll stick up for him somewhat here Garland was not someone i could get behind as a fan.... i agree totally with his assessment that very long shifts and no respect is not something that entertains me.... closest type of player I can relate to in terms of Garland style on my team over the years would be Daniel Sprong... not terribly likeable despite putting up big point totals
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Post by lirette on Nov 3, 2022 10:04:02 GMT -4
No one is going around the real issue, Eagles fans did not invent the concept of "not supporting a loser", that exists in all sports. Right now the Eagles suck, plain and simple, the reasons for which may differ from fan to fan, I for one look at injuries as the main factor that we are not closer to .500 on the season, but hey my glass is half full. Someone pulled the conversation to "entertainment", I will defend the players and the evolution of the game all day. I see Connor Garland was mentioned above, 9 min shifts and zero respect for teammates is the farthest thing from entertainment in my mind, but to others maybe that is what they pay to see. Personally, I like what I see from the young players and our accumulated assets, whether or not the long time fan or season ticket holder can jump on board and have patience to watch it play out, is a personal choice. In the meantime, Management can easily find ways to bring bodies into the building while we all piss and moan about the entertainment value of a $22 ticket. There have been some great suggestions by posters on this board. Hats off to the Islanders..they have some serious promo's going on to attract fans.. Student/Teacher night. $4.00 drinks ...brilliant. For of age students..Thursday was always the best night! When you only have 1 win its way more then some injuries. Garland put up back to back 120+ point seasons. Played in 33 playoff games over those 2 seasons. Yet was the furthest from entertainment to you? And management can easily...EASILY lol...find ways to bring bodies into a building that hasn't seen bodies in it for years. You're bordering on delusional with some of this lol I would say you can just replace the word entertainment with "engagement" from the fans. Ultimately its just semantics. Nothing to get fans invested in a result of a game when you have a clear villain (in the fans eyes) to cheer against. Khovanov is another one, these guys actually got boo'd whenever they touched the puck. They actually got fans talking about games on social media. From a Wildcats fan perspective, they added an element to every home game in that they got the other team riled up and ultimately made a more physical game without the staged fights of the early 2000's. I don't know how you develop players with more personality, but I think that's what the game needs. Fighting is never coming back, its time to move on from that. But teams and the league can do better at marketing their stars. When the NBLC was going, all you'd hear from fans was how much difference they found at a basketball game with the players personalities, how they interacted with the crowd etc. Its time for people to realize hockey isn't competing with the UFC for viewership. Its competing with growing sports like soccer and basketball, and the answer isn't to bring the goons back.
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